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Post by Bigs"R"Us on Mar 25, 2019 10:10:13 GMT -5
Drawing fans is always going to be a challenge at a relatively small school. Being better would draw some more students and locals. We really need to become a fixture again in the NCAAs.
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Post by DFW HOYA on Mar 25, 2019 10:24:22 GMT -5
Drawing fans is always going to be a challenge at a relatively small school. Being better would draw some more students and locals. We really need to become a fixture again in the NCAAs. Not so small anymore.
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Post by hoyalove4ever on Mar 25, 2019 10:24:41 GMT -5
Hoyas have a chance for a deep run if we add Anthony.
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Post by NCHoya on Mar 25, 2019 10:46:22 GMT -5
Drawing fans is always going to be a challenge at a relatively small school. Being better would draw some more students and locals. We really need to become a fixture again in the NCAAs. Not so small anymore. Point taken, but I still think undergrad enrollment is around 7,500, right? Those are the students that are most connected to the school and likely to support the team the most. Not all, but a good portion of Grad students are part-time or focused on their career paths without the same identification with the University, especially after spending 4 years of undergrad somewhere else.
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Post by SFHoya99 on Mar 25, 2019 10:47:14 GMT -5
The number I saw was 19,000. Of course, that's 7,500 undergraduate and 11,500 graduate students. I'm not sure whatever portion of that is medical (no time) and law (off campus), but I think it is high.
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Post by Bigs"R"Us on Mar 25, 2019 11:13:58 GMT -5
Add to that all of the competition for $ and time in DC. A number of undergraduates don’t care about the basketball program. At least that’s what I witnessed and the team was good back then.
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Post by HoyaDr on Mar 25, 2019 11:22:34 GMT -5
Add to that all of the competition for $ and time in DC. A number of undergraduates don’t care about the basketball program. At least that’s what I witnessed and the team was good back then. MCI/Verizon was bumping when we were good during JT3's first half of his coaching stint. Then again, I'm mostly talking about games against Syracuse, Louisville, Pitt, West Virginia, etc. Only Wizards playoff games brought more energy to that arena as far as basketball goes. We get back to being a ranked team annually and we will get closer to more attendance and energy in Cap One.
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Post by vv83 on Mar 25, 2019 12:10:00 GMT -5
The crowds for the last two home games this year were very good. 12-13,000; but really engaged. For the final game, the crowd was pumped up from the opening tip (because it was Saturday at 6:30, so most fans were in their seats at the start of the game - unlike most weekend noon and weeknight 6:30/7pm starts
The student turnout was much stronger the year throughout the big east season. There is still a long way to go, but there were definitely signs of growing fan support at the games in the latter part of the season.
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Post by hoyas big supporter on Mar 25, 2019 12:21:48 GMT -5
What sticks out about Georgetown? Patrick Ewing is a really good dude. He’s known my parents for a long time and I’m just a big fan of what he’s done for the school. I think he’s done a pretty good job of coaching them. Are you paying attention to things like Coby White potentially going to the NBA? Yeah, we just want to monitor and see who ends up staying at each school and who ends up leaving to make sure we have enough talent as a freshman to make it to the Final Four. That’s my goal. These two quotes above are emblematic about where the program is right now. We don't need to blame anyone, but that's where it is. 1. Top recruits are respectful of Ewing but few show the same level of respect to the team, as in "I really want to play with them." When you're born in 1998 or 1999, selling the past only goes so far. 2. If a top recruit expects the bright lights of the Final Four as a freshman, there are no more than six programs on their radar: Duke, Kentucky, North Carolina, Michigan, Michigan State, and probably Louisville. Georgetown is not in that discussion. Tangentially, recruits want to play where they are seen - since everyone is on some form of TV, so they like big crowds. Georgetown's 2018-19 attendance will rank them somewhere around 70th nationally when all is said and done and ninth in the Big East. There needs to be a larger conversation about the state of the fan base that goes a little deeper than "well, if/when we start winning, they'll come back." Why though? You don’t think winning the BE or going to the Sweet 16 next year would move the needle enough? Imo they only stopped coming because we started losing. 10 years ago we had very competitive attendance numbers and a very strong following.
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Post by LCPolo18 on Mar 25, 2019 15:22:59 GMT -5
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Post by trillesthoya on Mar 25, 2019 15:33:47 GMT -5
Yeah, confirms my fear that losing the way we did to Seton Hall did way more damage than we realize. Good to see he’s supposedly still “big on us” even if that’s just him being polite.
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Post by iheartdurenbros on Mar 25, 2019 15:41:09 GMT -5
Not so small anymore. Point taken, but I still think undergrad enrollment is around 7,500, right? Those are the students that are most connected to the school and likely to support the team the most. Not all, but a good portion of Grad students are part-time or focused on their career paths without the same identification with the University, especially after spending 4 years of undergrad somewhere else. Distance learning has contributed to the jump in graduate student enrollment. Figures from 2016: www.georgetown.edu/about/key-facts. But, yes, the graduate student population is not exactly prime audience for the basketball games. Still hoping to pull in a greater share of the 7,500 or so undergrads.
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Post by jwp91 on Mar 25, 2019 17:55:36 GMT -5
If he's going to sign with UNC eventually, since White's decision will not come into play in Cole's decision, why doesn't he do it already? It does not make sense if he's ready to sign with UNC. I know, I know, it's recruiting. I may be an optimist as to next year, but I believe that if this year's freshmen improve their individual areas of improvement, the sophomores stay and improve as was expected of them this year, Omer and Galen play as advertised, and Qudus is solid defensively and not a hole on offense, and the rest of the players play their roles adequately, we will make the Sweet Sixteen. My question for Cole would be: are you good enough and ready to be the difference between a Sweet Sixteen team and a FF team? If you are the #1 recruit in the country, it really makes no sense to commit...or at least sign...with anyone. Keeps your options alive in the event of unforseen circumstances.
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Post by hoyarooter on Mar 25, 2019 18:03:33 GMT -5
What sticks out about Georgetown? Patrick Ewing is a really good dude. He’s known my parents for a long time and I’m just a big fan of what he’s done for the school. I think he’s done a pretty good job of coaching them. Are you paying attention to things like Coby White potentially going to the NBA? Yeah, we just want to monitor and see who ends up staying at each school and who ends up leaving to make sure we have enough talent as a freshman to make it to the Final Four. That’s my goal. These two quotes above are emblematic about where the program is right now. We don't need to blame anyone, but that's where it is. 1. Top recruits are respectful of Ewing but few show the same level of respect to the team, as in "I really want to play with them." When you're born in 1998 or 1999, selling the past only goes so far. 2. If a top recruit expects the bright lights of the Final Four as a freshman, there are no more than six programs on their radar: Duke, Kentucky, North Carolina, Michigan, Michigan State, and probably Louisville. Georgetown is not in that discussion. Tangentially, recruits want to play where they are seen - since everyone is on some form of TV, so they like big crowds. Georgetown's 2018-19 attendance will rank them somewhere around 70th nationally when all is said and done and ninth in the Big East. There needs to be a larger conversation about the state of the fan base that goes a little deeper than "well, if/when we start winning, they'll come back." Nit picking: + Virginia, Villanova, Kansas, - Louisville. I know Nova got shellacked by Purdue, but a team with two championships in three years has to be acknowledged.
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Post by hoyas315 on Mar 25, 2019 19:06:35 GMT -5
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Post by LCPolo18 on Mar 25, 2019 19:40:11 GMT -5
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Post by ewingitrust on Mar 25, 2019 21:37:49 GMT -5
Yeah, confirms my fear that losing the way we did to Seton Hall did way more damage than we realize. Good to see he’s supposedly still “big on us” even if that’s just him being polite. i look at it as Cole sees where his game can help improve the overall team. We have big east championship/ncaa tourney aspirations from the get-go next season and Cole may feel he can be that missing piece to get the Hoyas back to the upper echelon once again. He may, in fact relish that challenge..instead of going to UNC which is there already. I like our chances today than maybe 3 weeks ago. Keep up the pursuit staff!
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Post by michaelgrahamfan on Mar 25, 2019 21:58:32 GMT -5
He is "Really Big" on all of these schools. The lack of senior leadership cost us dearly in the Seton Hall game and may have cost us Cole as well. I thought we had the inside track until then. I hope I am wrong.
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Post by dchoya72 on Mar 25, 2019 22:27:46 GMT -5
Nothing against him at all but I don't take him seriously. I believe a guy like that would go to a winning, storied program. We're on our way back to that platform. I also think he would get in the way of James Akinjo. We are one serious player away from doing some good things on the court. I don't know where he's going but coming to Georgetown would not help him. We just need the right player. Young, extremely talented, a good head on his shoulders, all the skills, and a big drive to succeed!! Not trying to get it all done in one year! Just my thoughts.
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Post by Bigs"R"Us on Mar 26, 2019 6:40:14 GMT -5
You have to take Cole because it’s one year at a time. Can’t plan and hope for 2-3 years down the road due to factors such as injuries, transfers, academics, etc. Focus on winning next year. Cole would elevate our profile, fill seats and win games. That said, it’s a long shot.
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