dchoya72
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Post by dchoya72 on Mar 26, 2019 6:51:27 GMT -5
You have to take Cole because it’s one year at a time. Can’t plan and hope for 2-3 years down the road due to factors such as injuries, transfers, academics, etc. Focus on winning next year. Cole would elevate our profile, fill seats and win games. That said, it’s a long shot. If he came that would be good.....just saw him hobnobbing with all of other Macdonald All-Americans at a "high school celebrity" dunk show in Atlanta last night (ESPN)...a hype fest! Why would he come to Georgetown? I think he's looking to be "one and done"... I HAVE NOTHING BACKING ME UP IN THIS!!!! Unless there is a super transformation by Pickett and the acquisition of Galen Alexander totally fits the bill, I think we should still be looking to acquire a 6-5/6-6" sg/sf freshman. Coach Ewing has done a great job thus far and I am looking for greater things to come. Cole looks like pie in the sky in the current scenario as I view it!
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Post by smokeyjack on Mar 26, 2019 7:10:40 GMT -5
The delusion in this thread is strong. I can go to UNC, where 20K show up to roar for me when I play Elon, step right in for departing lottery pick Colby White as next year’s one-and-done driver of one of the nation’s fastest paced teams and play for a HOFer whose teams make the tourney every season, routinely roll deep and get eliminated in wknd 1 once every decade.
Or I can be part of a rebuild at GU, play in front of friends and family, play for a coach known for sculpting big men who has never won a postseason game and immediately create a chemistry issue by displacing the BE’s ‘19 frosh of the year. Hmm. Real tough one.
I question whether we should even want this to happen. Two years from now, we might be ready to effectively assimilate 1-year guys. Right now? Is the exposure and upside worth what this would undoubtedly do to a team that already displayed miserable chemistry in ‘19?
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Post by hoyalove4ever on Mar 26, 2019 7:19:04 GMT -5
The idea that the Hoyas would not want Anthony is crazy. You take him and then, like so many things in life, line up the round pegs and square holes. They DO fit if you hammer hard enough.
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Post by smokeyjack on Mar 26, 2019 7:25:49 GMT -5
The idea that the Hoyas would not want Anthony is crazy. You take him and then, like so many things in life, line up the round pegs and square holes. They DO fit if you hammer hard enough. I agree that you take him. I just can’t make a reasonable argument for GU, particularly when you completely remove academics from the equation (which you have to do for a 1-and-done). Prob a win for GU...even if It impacts James. I can’t see how it would be a win for Anthony on literally a single level.
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Post by SaxaCD on Mar 26, 2019 7:53:20 GMT -5
You have to take Cole because it’s one year at a time. Can’t plan and hope for 2-3 years down the road due to factors such as injuries, transfers, academics, etc. Focus on winning next year. Cole would elevate our profile, fill seats and win games. That said, it’s a long shot. If he came that would be good.....just saw him hobnobbing with all of other Macdonald All-Americans at a "high school celebrity" dunk show in Atlanta last night (ESPN)...a hype fest! Why would he come to Georgetown? I think he's looking to be "one and done"... I HAVE NOTHING BACKING ME UP IN THIS!!!! Unless there is a super transformation by Pickett and the acquisition of Galen Alexander totally fits the bill, I think we should still be looking to acquire a 6-5/6-6" sg/sf freshman. Coach Ewing has done a great job thus far and I am looking for greater things to come. Cole looks like pie in the sky in the current scenario as I view it! Totally agree, but I still think you have to try as long as you're even in the game one tiby bit. Also, from reports of Ewing sightings all over the recruiting trail, doesn't look like the staff will be caught napping. I think we will be an improved and a lot more well rounded team next year either way.
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Post by HOYAPLAYA on Mar 26, 2019 8:01:32 GMT -5
I think we are overthinking this one. If he comes to GU, then he likely displaces Jagan in the starting lineup and we go three guard attack most of the time. I don't think the issue will be how it impacts our current freshman guards but rather at the forward position where I'm not sure everyone would get the playing time that they think is rightfully theirs. Jagan will get his approximately 20 MPG but Blair would definitely be on the outside looking in as he seemed to be this year which had me scratching my head late in the season.
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Post by hoyalove4ever on Mar 26, 2019 8:20:42 GMT -5
The idea that the Hoyas would not want Anthony is crazy. You take him and then, like so many things in life, line up the round pegs and square holes. They DO fit if you hammer hard enough. I agree that you take him. I just can’t make a reasonable argument for GU, particularly when you completely remove academics from the equation (which you have to do for a 1-and-done). Prob a win for GU...even if It impacts James. I can’t see how it would be a win for Anthony on literally a single level. The argument for GU is that by not going to UNC/ Kansas/ Kentucky/ Dook, he stands out and creates a brand of his own. He gets to be the player to take the lion's share of the credit when we return to the NCAAs and possibly make a deep run. While to some extent he would be The Man at Carolina, without a doubt he would be THE MAN on the Hilltop. It all depends on what he wants and where he feels most comfortable. Look, NW DC and Chapel Hill are both great places to spend a year. It is his choice. Best of luck to him.
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Post by dchoya72 on Mar 26, 2019 8:31:07 GMT -5
I think we are overthinking this one. If he comes to GU, then he likely displaces Jagan in the starting lineup and we go three guard attack most of the time. I don't think the issue will be how it impacts our current freshman guards but rather at the forward position where I'm not sure everyone would get the playing time that they think is rightfully theirs. Jagan will get his approximately 20 MPG but Blair would definitely be on the outside looking in as he seemed to be this year which had me scratching my head late in the season. Somehow I keep forgetting about Blair. He is an intrepid shooter. I wish he was more developed. We need some with great skill at the sg/sf slot....some who can handle. A total player!!!! Cole looks to be 6-1/6-2...I am sure he is great but we need different; and more size in the backcourt with more skill and confidence. I am not negating him just offering a different perspective. Ultimately I believe competition is good.
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Post by LCPolo18 on Mar 26, 2019 9:38:07 GMT -5
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Post by oldbigeast on Mar 26, 2019 9:48:10 GMT -5
Hoyas need ballers! Cole Anthony is a Baller! We need a 3rd scoring guard. We need another ball handler that can create and score consistently. We need top level talent. We need notoriety for good reasons. It's always enough time for really good guards. The people most impacted would be Jagan, Pickett and Blair.
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Post by LCPolo18 on Mar 26, 2019 9:58:07 GMT -5
I agree that you take him. I just can’t make a reasonable argument for GU, particularly when you completely remove academics from the equation (which you have to do for a 1-and-done). Prob a win for GU...even if It impacts James. I can’t see how it would be a win for Anthony on literally a single level. The argument for GU is that by not going to UNC/ Kansas/ Kentucky/ Dook, he stands out and creates a brand of his own. He gets to be the player to take the lion's share of the credit when we return to the NCAAs and possibly make a deep run. While to some extent he would be The Man at Carolina, without a doubt he would be THE MAN on the Hilltop. It all depends on what he wants and where he feels most comfortable. Look, NW DC and Chapel Hill are both great places to spend a year. It is his choice. Best of luck to him. Yeah this is exactly how I see it. The argument for Georgetown is: -His relationship with Patrick Ewing -The chance to be the #1 star for an up and coming team There are certainly good arguments for UNC and Oregon, but for as much attention that he would get at those schools he would be one of many stars there. I haven't followed Duke all that much this season, but from an outsider's perspective all you hear about is Zion, and then some about Barrett. You hardly hear about Reddish or Jones or Bolden, and all of these players were in the RSCI top 15 of their recruiting classes. Reddish was #2! Now, Reddish will still likely be a lottery pick in the draft, but he doesn't have the same name recognition, branding, and marketability at this point that his teammates have, or even that other players like Ben Simmons or Markelle Fultz had at this point in their freshman year.
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Post by dchoya72 on Mar 26, 2019 11:07:57 GMT -5
All of these arguments for him are good ones. Lets see how it turns out. He does say he wants the ball in his hands, and it is not like we don't need another ball handler. It could be a turn in the right direction. It could also become a matter of musical chairs!!
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Post by wnyhoya on Mar 26, 2019 11:21:17 GMT -5
What’s also interesting is in that interview Cole does not solely speak to Coby White but also to what players will be on each team in his final group. Carolina should take a pretty solid step back next year with Maye, Williams and Johnson graduating plus White and Little jumping to the NBA (most likely). Add to that so far, and this can change, they only have Bacot (5 star C) and a 3 star PG coming in.
Not saying our roster is stacked but boy I would entertain an argument that our roster could very easily matchup with theirs.
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Post by ColumbiaHeightsHoya on Mar 26, 2019 11:27:46 GMT -5
James could probably benefit from playing a few fewer minutes too. He was leaned on too much to handle the ball in every situation.
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Post by seaweed on Mar 26, 2019 11:57:34 GMT -5
James could probably benefit from playing a few fewer minutes too. He was leaned on too much to handle the ball in every situation. To play devil's advocate, James was brought in to run the point and did so remarkably well, better than most of us hoped. He was BE Frosh of the Year. To take the ball away from him, to basically recruit over him even if just for one year, would be the kind of insult that comes back to haunt coaches who try to give incoming recruits realistic expectations. Based on his performance this year, no way James deserves to be sidelined for anyone. As he has stated, he has pro aspirations and intends to work to make them a reality. This would side-track those plans at best, unless we are bringing in CA as a 2, but he sure sounds like he is looking to have the ball in his hands. That means taking it out of James' hands and I am not sure how that would impact the team dynamic. We could run a three guard set and James could learn more about playing the #2 spot, but he shined as a true PG this year and we mess with that at our own peril. While I tend to agree that you take a top flight recruit and work him into your program no matter how it impacts your roster, in this case I am concerned that the impact on James will be too negative to warrant the one year experiment. We know he is all heart and I don't see messing with his. I'd still do it, but I would make sure that Akinjo is on board and understands how it will play out. Likely Coach has addressed this already and opened up communication channels with both guys about how he sees them fitting together (if this could realistically happen) and that would then make it the players' responsibility to fulfill the roles and expectations he outlines for them.
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Post by hoyazeke on Mar 26, 2019 13:25:26 GMT -5
The argument for GU is that by not going to UNC/ Kansas/ Kentucky/ Dook, he stands out and creates a brand of his own. He gets to be the player to take the lion's share of the credit when we return to the NCAAs and possibly make a deep run. While to some extent he would be The Man at Carolina, without a doubt he would be THE MAN on the Hilltop. It all depends on what he wants and where he feels most comfortable. Look, NW DC and Chapel Hill are both great places to spend a year. It is his choice. Best of luck to him. Yeah this is exactly how I see it. The argument for Georgetown is: -His relationship with Patrick Ewing -The chance to be the #1 star for an up and coming team There are certainly good arguments for UNC and Oregon, but for as much attention that he would get at those schools he would be one of many stars there. I haven't followed Duke all that much this season, but from an outsider's perspective all you hear about is Zion, and then some about Barrett. You hardly hear about Reddish or Jones or Bolden, and all of these players were in the RSCI top 15 of their recruiting classes. Reddish was #2! Now, Reddish will still likely be a lottery pick in the draft, but he doesn't have the same name recognition, branding, and marketability at this point that his teammates have, or even that other players like Ben Simmons or Markelle Fultz had at this point in their freshman year. IMO the only real chance we have with a Burger Boy at this time is if he wants to be a legend. Which would be tough at GTown because winning here would be winning with the person who is the schools legend....smh
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Post by RockawayHoya on Mar 26, 2019 13:33:58 GMT -5
Yeah this is exactly how I see it. The argument for Georgetown is: -His relationship with Patrick Ewing -The chance to be the #1 star for an up and coming team There are certainly good arguments for UNC and Oregon, but for as much attention that he would get at those schools he would be one of many stars there. I haven't followed Duke all that much this season, but from an outsider's perspective all you hear about is Zion, and then some about Barrett. You hardly hear about Reddish or Jones or Bolden, and all of these players were in the RSCI top 15 of their recruiting classes. Reddish was #2! Now, Reddish will still likely be a lottery pick in the draft, but he doesn't have the same name recognition, branding, and marketability at this point that his teammates have, or even that other players like Ben Simmons or Markelle Fultz had at this point in their freshman year. IMO the only real chance we have with a Burger Boy at this time is if he wants to be a legend. Which would be tough at GTown because winning here would be winning with the person who is the schools legend....smh I think you meant if he wants to #golegend
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Post by hoyas315 on Mar 26, 2019 14:07:51 GMT -5
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Post by HOYAPLAYA on Mar 26, 2019 14:11:20 GMT -5
James could probably benefit from playing a few fewer minutes too. He was leaned on too much to handle the ball in every situation. To play devil's advocate, James was brought in to run the point and did so remarkably well, better than most of us hoped. He was BE Frosh of the Year. To take the ball away from him, to basically recruit over him even if just for one year, would be the kind of insult that comes back to haunt coaches who try to give incoming recruits realistic expectations. Based on his performance this year, no way James deserves to be sidelined for anyone. As he has stated, he has pro aspirations and intends to work to make them a reality. This would side-track those plans at best, unless we are bringing in CA as a 2, but he sure sounds like he is looking to have the ball in his hands. That means taking it out of James' hands and I am not sure how that would impact the team dynamic. We could run a three guard set and James could learn more about playing the #2 spot, but he shined as a true PG this year and we mess with that at our own peril. While I tend to agree that you take a top flight recruit and work him into your program no matter how it impacts your roster, in this case I am concerned that the impact on James will be too negative to warrant the one year experiment. We know he is all heart and I don't see messing with his. I'd still do it, but I would make sure that Akinjo is on board and understands how it will play out. Likely Coach has addressed this already and opened up communication channels with both guys about how he sees them fitting together (if this could realistically happen) and that would then make it the players' responsibility to fulfill the roles and expectations he outlines for them. You can play with two very talented point guards in your lineup. My concern would be defense and rebounding since that was a weakness this year. I think both James and Cole would be able to benefit playing a few offensive possessions off the ball. Hell, Akinjo is our best returning 3 point threat and is likely a lot tougher to chase through screens and around the court than Pickett. I think the impact is in the forward area because Ewing is going to get minutes to Jagan based on his defense and intangibles. Also, Akinjo seems like someone who would want to play with the best players that give him the best chance of winning.
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Post by Nevada Hoya on Mar 26, 2019 14:28:06 GMT -5
My son went to two of the school that Greg Anthony attended: Tomiyasu Elementary and the University of Portland. So that counts for something. Doesn't it?
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