DanMcQ
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Post by DanMcQ on Dec 13, 2015 8:01:08 GMT -5
Keep the wins coming.
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Post by SSHoya on Dec 13, 2015 10:26:39 GMT -5
Robinson and Seaborn, 44% and 40% from 3, respectively. Got to shore up 3-pt defense. Robinson is averaging 22 and Seaborn 14, almost half of the Hawks's points.
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Post by calhoya on Dec 13, 2015 12:26:48 GMT -5
This game feels like the first round games the Hoyas have had in the last several years during the NCAA tournament. A dangerous team that should not beat them but has the ability to do so. Real test for the defense to stay out of foul trouble.
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Post by jwp91 on Dec 13, 2015 12:54:28 GMT -5
This game feels like the first round games the Hoyas have had in the last several years during the NCAA tournament. A dangerous team that should not beat them but has the ability to do so. Real test for the defense to stay out of foul trouble. Only if Monmouth was also seeded #12 or below after beating all of those teams! |
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Post by MassHoya on Dec 13, 2015 16:49:41 GMT -5
Somebody has to explain to the guys that there are two halves in a game. Gotta play both. 3 pt defense needs to improve. Also, when they break the press(which after Brown and UNCW they will see), go to the basket, not back it out and go deep in the shot clock. Keep going on a roll.
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Post by trillesthoya on Dec 13, 2015 17:13:46 GMT -5
Extremely worried about this game. Monmouth is a team of almost exclusively small fast guards that can shoot lights out, imo our biggest weakness. Our bigs really need to exploit the size difference if we're going to have any success. Also LJ/Tre/Kaleb/DSR need to come prepared to play some very intense D, can't give them any open shots or open lanes.
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Post by Eurostar on Dec 13, 2015 17:40:22 GMT -5
LJ cant continue fouling out in 15 minutes
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Post by hoyasaxa2003 on Dec 13, 2015 20:44:56 GMT -5
One key will be not letting these buffoons get to the free throw line. They're 4th best nationally on free throws shooting 81.6%, and their 5'8 guard Robinson is 53-57 (93%) from the line. We really cannot afford to give them tons of free points out there.
They also turn the ball over a fair amount and their rebounding is terrible on both sides of the Court. We really need to improve our rebounding this coming game. It'll be a key all season.
EDIT: Their starting lineup is basically 5'8, 6'3, 6'5, 6'6, and 6'10. Our starters have height advantages all around, especially at PG and SF. There is no excuse for not rebounding better than yesterday.
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Post by hoyalove4ever on Dec 14, 2015 6:31:24 GMT -5
POUND THE BALL INSIDE.
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Post by Ranch Dressing on Dec 14, 2015 12:44:20 GMT -5
Pounding it inside makes a lot of sense, especially at the beginning of both halves. But I wonder if we will have to sit Hayes/Govan for stretches and go with a smaller lineup to stay in front of their guards and defend the 3-point line.
Also, I hope we can play smart, attentive basketball during the last 5 minutes of the game. Been a huge weakness so far this season. Value each possession like it's our last; don't turn it over, and work to get up a decent shot within the offense.
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Post by gahoya on Dec 14, 2015 12:57:39 GMT -5
Going along with that, I've wondered about sitting Hayes & Govan more. Could be used easily if both are in foul trouble/not playing well/ or just as a new wrinkle, but I'm curious about a much smaller line-up with Copeland or Marcus at the 5, the other at the 4, and then Reggie, Peak, & DSR. Ton of shooting, and what could be good team defense. Could help in a matchup like this, or just as something to throw other teams off, but could be experimented with best in a game like this.
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Post by Ranch Dressing on Dec 14, 2015 17:14:20 GMT -5
Replace Reggie with White, and I'm right there with you. I think you need White's playmaking ability to make that lineup sing. Potentially tons of cutters and open 3s.
If you need Reggie as an extra shooter, than sit Peak for White. Then you've created a really tall lineup 1-4, with a short 5. All 5 positions would really need to crash the boards.
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Post by gahoya on Dec 14, 2015 18:05:10 GMT -5
Replace Reggie with White, and I'm right there with you. I think you need White's playmaking ability to make that lineup sing. Potentially tons of cutters and open 3s. If you need Reggie as an extra shooter, than sit Peak for White. Then you've created a really tall lineup 1-4, with a short 5. All 5 positions would really need to crash the boards. I'd normally agree, but I just don't believe that White's healthy yet - I kind of want him to rest until January, he just doesn't look like he's ready yet. |
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Post by FrazierFanatic on Dec 14, 2015 18:07:03 GMT -5
Only DSR has shown any affinity to crash those boards.
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Post by grandmahoya on Dec 14, 2015 18:30:42 GMT -5
This team is going to come into the Verizon Center, thinking they can beat us. They beat Notre Dame, UCLA and USC, and have won three of their last four games and are extremely confident. This could easily be a trap game for us. We have to start scoring early and not relinquish leads at the end of games. Rebounding is key, especially offensive rebounds which is a weak area for us. We have to be ready to defend. They can really shoot the three and they will. I agree with FrazierFanatic that someone else has to step up besides DSR to crash the boards. [Oh how I miss Bril]. Go Hoyas.
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Post by Nevada Hoya on Dec 14, 2015 19:12:56 GMT -5
If they have beaten ND, UCLA, and USC (and also lost to them), I don't think this qualifies as a trap game, since they seem to be a proven entity in themselves, and have an RPI much higher than ours. If the coaches list the team their stats, I don't think they will be looking past Monmouth.
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Post by grandmahoya on Dec 14, 2015 20:38:09 GMT -5
If they have beaten ND, UCLA, and USC (and also lost to them), I don't think this qualifies as a trap game, since they seem to be a proven entity in themselves, and have an RPI much higher than ours. If the coaches list the team their stats, I don't think they will be looking past Monmouth. I hope you are right. |
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Post by jamaicahoya on Dec 14, 2015 21:42:04 GMT -5
I am surprised by the level of angst this team is generating among some posters. We have gone from agonizing about them dropping games to Maryland and Duke(which, if not for DSR slow start, one or both of those games could have been wins), to agonizing about them loosing leads against lesser opponents, or not winning by 20 plus points. I mean if people are worried about how we will handle Monmouth, then a psychological breakdown is clearly reserved for some when conference play begins.
Personally, I am enjoying the growth of a very good squad that, if they buy into it, has to potential to make a deep championship run. I am aware of the questions being raised about III's coaching and game manangement skills. I am no expert on these things, but since his final four run with Hibbert and Green he has mostly been driven to making very limited teams competitive year after year in an unforgiving league. This year seems a bit different. I truly believe, notwithstanding the absence of a true point guard, that III believes he has the pieces to make a championship run. His brutal preseason schedule was less about testing his team's mettle, and more about putting on steroids the in-season learning and molding of a championship team.
Listen to his post-game comments following MC-Wilmington game and you will hear a coach who is not worried about the challenges opponents will bring this year, but whether his players are discilpined enough to recognize, develop and execute the plays neccessary to counteract those challenges.
"We," he said in the NC-Wil post-game interview, "did not think the game well today, the latter part of it. Our decisions offensively and defensively were not good. Too many poor decisions(on offense; one pass, shot; two passes, shot. When we move the ball and share the game, we get really good shots. When guys go hunting for their shots, we dont.(Defensively) They got too many open shots. At some point, they have to get threes to get back in the game, and over and over we let them get threes."
Sometimes we want so much to get "there," that being the NCAA championship,that we forget to enjoy the journey. It is going to be tough, game by game, but this team has the weapons and I going to try and enjoy watching them learn how to deploy them with deadly effectiveness.
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Post by eastcoastteddy58 on Dec 14, 2015 21:43:40 GMT -5
Pounding it inside makes a lot of sense, especially at the beginning of both halves. But I wonder if we will have to sit Hayes/Govan for stretches and go with a smaller lineup to stay in front of their guards and defend the 3-point line. Also, I hope we can play smart, attentive basketball during the last 5 minutes of the game. Been a huge weakness so far this season. Value each possession like it's our last; don't turn it over, and work to get up a decent shot within the offense. What about Mourning at the 5, I think he would give the team a few good minutes while Govan and Hayes stay foul free? |
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Post by GUJook97 on Dec 14, 2015 21:45:18 GMT -5
I think it is less about angst than the fact that Monmouth is a good team. I think we should be concerned about this game. IMO, Monmouth is probably better than Syracuse and Wisconsin right now.
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