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Post by lucky on Oct 6, 2015 12:27:02 GMT -5
I think the staff will do its due diligence here before offering. Yes, we do need another guard on the roster, do we need one that might not even make it to second semester, NO. I'm reasonably certain the staff will realize this as well. However, let them do the meeting and see what's up with this young man. Not all young men who have made mistakes should be immediately piled on the trash heap.
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Post by hoyalove4ever on Oct 6, 2015 12:47:11 GMT -5
Moreover, it appears unclear whether he made a mistake or whether his school had some issues. Worth a close look IMHO.
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Post by Ranch Dressing on Oct 6, 2015 12:49:48 GMT -5
Were the classes that Victor and Allen passed to maintain eligibility really more difficult than the typical Alabama athlete courses?
Let the staff do their job. They know what it takes to get a kid through Georgetown, and we should all recognize that if JTIII wants to be the best, he has to compete with the best on the recruiting circuit, obviously within the rules.
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Post by kchoya on Oct 6, 2015 14:20:26 GMT -5
Were the classes that Victor and Allen passed to maintain eligibility really more difficult than the typical Alabama athlete courses? Let the staff do their job. They know what it takes to get a kid through Georgetown, and we should all recognize that if JTIII wants to be the best, he has to compete with the best on the recruiting circuit, obviously within the rules. Not sure what classes Alabama athletes take, but I was a TA for Iverson and he took normal GU classes.
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Post by Talos on Oct 6, 2015 16:28:40 GMT -5
Were the classes that Victor and Allen passed to maintain eligibility really more difficult than the typical Alabama athlete courses? Let the staff do their job. They know what it takes to get a kid through Georgetown, and we should all recognize that if JTIII wants to be the best, he has to compete with the best on the recruiting circuit, obviously within the rules. I want to be as hopeful as you, but I'm not sure I agree with your second statement. The staff badly misjudged both Josh Smith and Whittington very recently regarding their ability to handle the academics at GU.
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Post by Elvado on Oct 6, 2015 16:38:34 GMT -5
Were the classes that Victor and Allen passed to maintain eligibility really more difficult than the typical Alabama athlete courses? Let the staff do their job. They know what it takes to get a kid through Georgetown, and we should all recognize that if JTIII wants to be the best, he has to compete with the best on the recruiting circuit, obviously within the rules. I want to be as hopeful as you, but I'm not sure I agree with your second statement. The staff badly misjudged both Josh Smith and Whittington very recently regarding their ability to handle the academics at GU. Let's not rush to conflate ability to do the work with willingness to do the work.
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Post by blueandgray on Oct 6, 2015 17:22:45 GMT -5
Were the classes that Victor and Allen passed to maintain eligibility really more difficult than the typical Alabama athlete courses? Let the staff do their job. They know what it takes to get a kid through Georgetown, and we should all recognize that if JTIII wants to be the best, he has to compete with the best on the recruiting circuit, obviously within the rules. I want to be as hopeful as you, but I'm not sure I agree with your second statement. The staff badly misjudged both Josh Smith and Whittington very recently regarding their ability to handle the academics at GU. Eligibility issues are going to happen at every school....and Whittington was eligible and in good standing at the time he was dismissed from the team. Josh was a gamble that didn't pay off....had he averaged 15 and 10, don't think anyone would be complaining.
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Post by eastcoastteddy58 on Oct 6, 2015 18:42:14 GMT -5
Is this a question of winning or giving a young-man a chance to be a student athlete or is this something bigger like image and tarnishing a brand.
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Post by professorhoya on Oct 6, 2015 18:46:51 GMT -5
I want to be as hopeful as you, but I'm not sure I agree with your second statement. The staff badly misjudged both Josh Smith and Whittington very recently regarding their ability to handle the academics at GU. Eligibility issues are going to happen at every school....and Whittington was eligible and in good standing at the time he was dismissed from the team. Josh was a gamble that didn't pay off....had he averaged 15 and 10, don't think anyone would be complaining. I wouldn't say that. He helped us get as far as any Hoyas team had in the tournament in the last 7 years. No Josh on last year's team and we probably are in the NIT.
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Post by IDenj on Oct 6, 2015 19:04:21 GMT -5
No Josh on the team and Hayes sees more time on the court. Instant upgrade.
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Post by FrazierFanatic on Oct 6, 2015 19:15:52 GMT -5
No Josh on the team and Hayes sees more time on the court. Instant upgrade. That seems awfully optimistic. Josh was one-dimemsional, and sometimes of limited effectiveness even in that dimension. But we have far too limited a sample of B to trumpet him as an upgrade yet.
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Post by jwp91 on Oct 6, 2015 19:40:24 GMT -5
Is this a question of winning or giving a young-man a chance to be a student athlete or is this something bigger like image and tarnishing a brand. i just expect the staff to make a candid assessment about whether he can make the grades and stick. Maybe he can. There is some evidence to suggest he may not be able to.
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Post by IDenj on Oct 6, 2015 21:06:10 GMT -5
No Josh on the team and Hayes sees more time on the court. Instant upgrade. That seems awfully optimistic. Josh was one-dimemsional, and sometimes of limited effectiveness even in that dimension. But we have far too limited a sample of B to trumpet him as an upgrade yet. Not having Josh period would have been an upgrade. Yesterday's news so let's move on.
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Post by blueandgray on Oct 6, 2015 21:22:44 GMT -5
Staff has been spending time with Kobe and are definitely getting a chance to know him. They like what they see.
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Post by HoyaSinceBirth on Oct 6, 2015 21:35:44 GMT -5
I'd be pretty shocked if he ended up at Georgetown. Mostly be cause there are schools on Quarter and Trimester schedules that could get him eligible and playing basketball at the start of the season. Would be surprised if he didn't go that route.
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Post by professorhoya on Oct 6, 2015 21:56:26 GMT -5
I'd be pretty shocked if he ended up at Georgetown. Mostly be cause there are schools on Quarter and Trimester schedules that could get him eligible and playing basketball at the start of the season. Would be surprised if he didn't go that route. He's not eligible till second semester. He had to retake the SAT/ACT to pump his score up to be eligible and that score must not qualify till January.
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Post by blueandgray on Oct 6, 2015 22:08:02 GMT -5
I don't think we are are necessarily the leader ....we are certainly a player and while we may be the best place for him, there are other schools he is interested in. Further, with regard to when he is eligible to play, not sure that is set in stone either.
If we get him, it's great....he'd play, play a significant role, and have an immediate impact. If we don't get him, and we shouldn't hold our breath....we'll still be very good. House money.
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Post by EtomicB on Oct 6, 2015 22:13:22 GMT -5
zagsblog.com/articles/baylor-offers-kobie-eubanks-again/“I spoke with (assistant) coach (Jerome) Tang and coach Scott Drew about coming in December,” said Eubanks, who has now received a qualifying ACT score.
“It was the first school I wanted to go to coming out of high school, but I couldn’t because of an academic situation that took place when I was at American Heritage (FL). Then again, Baylor was the first school I wanted to go to. It really didn’t affect anything. I still have the same feelings about the program that I had when I was ready to go there.”Looks like Baylor is still heavily in his thoughts.. It'd be nice to get him on campus for a visit, I wonder what he has left for official visits?
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Post by HoyaSinceBirth on Oct 7, 2015 15:43:29 GMT -5
I'd be pretty shocked if he ended up at Georgetown. Mostly be cause there are schools on Quarter and Trimester schedules that could get him eligible and playing basketball at the start of the season. Would be surprised if he didn't go that route. He's not eligible till second semester. He had to retake the SAT/ACT to pump his score up to be eligible and that score must not qualify till January. I think that's just because most schools are on semester schedules and you have to be enrolled at the start of term to be eligible, but if a school is on a quarter or trimester schedule and he enrolls before the start of one of the terms he'd be eligible as soon as he enrolls. Someone can correct me if I'm wrong, but I haven't seen anything that states he couldn't enroll in a school not on semesters and be eligible sooner.
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Post by professorhoya on Oct 7, 2015 16:17:06 GMT -5
He's not eligible till second semester. He had to retake the SAT/ACT to pump his score up to be eligible and that score must not qualify till January. I think that's just because most schools are on semester schedules and you have to be enrolled at the start of term to be eligible, but if a school is on a quarter or trimester schedule and he enrolls before the start of one of the terms he'd be eligible as soon as he enrolls. Someone can correct me if I'm wrong, but I haven't seen anything that states he couldn't enroll in a school not on semesters and be eligible sooner. I don't think it makes any difference because the 1st trimester usually runs late sept to early December. Then the 2nd trimester starts first week of January so it's basically the same in the fall under either system. And he's likely already missed the small window where the quarter/trimester has the late fall start. Under the winter enrollment he'd basically gain maybe two weeks earlier eligibility in January if that's how eligibility works but that's seems hardly a reason to choose a trimester/quarter school over a semester school.
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