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Post by Nevada Hoya on Aug 21, 2015 16:09:18 GMT -5
[quote source="/post/648517/thread" timesta In last three NCAA tourney losses, all to lower-seeded teams, Georgetown has watched its opponents shoot 107 FTs to its 46. If that doesn't seem so lopsided, think about it from a avg perspective (35.7-15.3). That is officially a joke. In my opinion , we're not winning anything until we learn to be more efficient getting to the line and keeping our opponents off it. Just a huge, huge hole in JT3's approach. I hadn't realized what a differential the FTs were. I guess I totally stopped thinking about those losses right away, the outcomes were so bad.
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Post by ahoya2 on Aug 21, 2015 16:45:46 GMT -5
JT3's approach?? Better defense keeps folks off the line. We have been hurt by our inability to guard the three point line and cut off the dribble drive. The defense and rebounding remain the biggest concerns along with team youth. Having said that, the athletecism and firepower of these sophs and frosh gives us hope. However we will be errtatic without DSR!
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Post by bamahoya11 on Aug 21, 2015 19:57:52 GMT -5
I refuse to panic about our upcoming season before Nick Saban has even named Alabama's starting quarterback for the upcoming football season. Thus, I'm willing to chalk this loss up as a learning experience and take it in stride. With so many key players out, it's not surprising me that our depleted lineup came up a little short once.
I tend to agree with the others that it's good for us to practice these types of scenarios now. Anything we learn now will help next year. But the biggest thing to me seems that our freshman class will contribute top to bottom and our sophomore class will do the same now that Mourning is ready to add minutes. Thinking back to how I felt in the Portland airport in March, if I had been told that we would get those contributions from all of our young players I would be really optimistic about or chances.
Next year is going to be a lot of fun. Think we will sort out our defense and have depth to keep a whole lot of teams guessing. I'm already just trying to enjoy the ride as this team finds its identity.
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Post by professorhoya on Aug 21, 2015 22:06:06 GMT -5
I refuse to panic about our upcoming season before Nick Saban has even named Alabama's starting quarterback for the upcoming football season. Thus, I'm willing to chalk this loss up as a learning experience and take it in stride. With so many key players out, it's not surprising me that our depleted lineup came up a little short once. I tend to agree with the others that it's good for us to practice these types of scenarios now. Anything we learn now will help next year. But the biggest thing to me seems that our freshman class will contribute top to bottom and our sophomore class will do the same now that Mourning is ready to add minutes. Thinking back to how I felt in the Portland airport in March, if I had been told that we would get those contributions from all of our young players I would be really optimistic about or chances. Next year is going to be a lot of fun. Think we will sort out our defense and have depth to keep a whole lot of teams guessing. I'm already just trying to enjoy the ride as this team finds its identity. Seems odd to make criticism on an exhibition game that most of the people on here have likely not seen. Cameron being the leading scorer seems to indicate to me that the minutes distribution is not what we are normally going to see. III also mentioned that he wanted to experiment with lineups and it seems like guys like Cameron, Riyan Willams, Trey are getting alot more minutes than they will probably see in the regular season.
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Post by professorhoya on Aug 21, 2015 22:13:24 GMT -5
Did David Allen graduate? I haven't seen him at Kenner or in any of the pictures from Italy.
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Post by bamahoya11 on Aug 21, 2015 22:56:21 GMT -5
I refuse to panic about our upcoming season before Nick Saban has even named Alabama's starting quarterback for the upcoming football season. Thus, I'm willing to chalk this loss up as a learning experience and take it in stride. With so many key players out, it's not surprising me that our depleted lineup came up a little short once. I tend to agree with the others that it's good for us to practice these types of scenarios now. Anything we learn now will help next year. But the biggest thing to me seems that our freshman class will contribute top to bottom and our sophomore class will do the same now that Mourning is ready to add minutes. Thinking back to how I felt in the Portland airport in March, if I had been told that we would get those contributions from all of our young players I would be really optimistic about or chances. Next year is going to be a lot of fun. Think we will sort out our defense and have depth to keep a whole lot of teams guessing. I'm already just trying to enjoy the ride as this team finds its identity. Seems odd to make criticism on an exhibition game that most of the people on here have likely not seen. Cameron being the leading scorer seems to indicate to me that the minutes distribution is not what we are normally going to see. III also mentioned that he wanted to experiment with lineups and it seems like guys like Cameron, Riyan Willams, Trey are getting alot more minutes than they will probably see in the regular season. I don't know what in my comments you found critical. I have no critique of the team or staff. I would always prefer we win, whenever we play, but I'm happy with our progress and the opportunities for some of our new and lesser used players to get opportunities to get game experience early. As I said, I think the growth of the freshman and sophomore classes at Kenner and overseas has been encouraging.
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Post by strummer8526 on Aug 21, 2015 23:16:05 GMT -5
I refuse to panic about our upcoming season before Nick Saban has even named Alabama's starting quarterback for the upcoming football season. Thus, I'm willing to chalk this loss up as a learning experience and take it in stride. With so many key players out, it's not surprising me that our depleted lineup came up a little short once. I tend to agree with the others that it's good for us to practice these types of scenarios now. Anything we learn now will help next year. But the biggest thing to me seems that our freshman class will contribute top to bottom and our sophomore class will do the same now that Mourning is ready to add minutes. Thinking back to how I felt in the Portland airport in March, if I had been told that we would get those contributions from all of our young players I would be really optimistic about or chances. Next year is going to be a lot of fun. Think we will sort out our defense and have depth to keep a whole lot of teams guessing. I'm already just trying to enjoy the ride as this team finds its identity. Needless reference to southern state-school football team? I'm having Hifi flashbacks over here. Tell me, Bama: How are you connected to the Internet right now? (e.g., Wifi? Ethernet? Dial-up? Cup-and-string?)
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Post by professorhoya on Aug 21, 2015 23:27:41 GMT -5
Seems odd to make criticism on an exhibition game that most of the people on here have likely not seen. Cameron being the leading scorer seems to indicate to me that the minutes distribution is not what we are normally going to see. III also mentioned that he wanted to experiment with lineups and it seems like guys like Cameron, Riyan Willams, Trey are getting alot more minutes than they will probably see in the regular season. I don't know what in my comments you found critical. I have no critique of the team or staff. I would always prefer we win, whenever we play, but I'm happy with our progress and the opportunities for some of our new and lesser used players to get opportunities to get game experience early. As I said, I think the growth of the freshman and sophomore classes at Kenner and overseas has been encouraging. My apologies. That actually wasn't a response to your post but the posts before yours. Not sure how it ended up being a reply to your post.
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Post by MCIGuy on Aug 22, 2015 6:02:40 GMT -5
I think we're in violent agreement g MCI - I think we literally need a fundamental change in the way that we/JT3 sees the PG and or guard roles. IMO, your point needs to be able handle, defend, slash/get to the line, facilitate and shoot (in that priority order). We don't need another point who can bang 3s, we need one who can defend and get to the rim/line. Ask Tom Izzo how those guys do in NCAAs. Another point who can bang 3s??? How many do you think we've had under JT3? For me, that would be a prolific 3-pt shooter, i.e. 40+% from 3. At PG under JT3? DSR is a converted PG, but he is not an over 40% 3-pt shooter. Some here don't think he's a PG. Markel? Only one season over 40%. There really aren't as many point guards in college, relatively speaking, who shoot over 40% from the three-point line as you may think. If you are hitting 36% to 37% of your threes from that position you'll be seen as a "good" shooter from that distance. I think Markel was a reliable three-point threat throughout his career at GU and yet I believe he never shot 40% from beyond the arc in any given season. May be wrong about that though.
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Post by bamahoya11 on Aug 22, 2015 9:22:42 GMT -5
I don't know what in my comments you found critical. I have no critique of the team or staff. I would always prefer we win, whenever we play, but I'm happy with our progress and the opportunities for some of our new and lesser used players to get opportunities to get game experience early. As I said, I think the growth of the freshman and sophomore classes at Kenner and overseas has been encouraging. My apologies. That actually wasn't a response to your post but the posts before yours. Not sure how it ended up being a reply to your post. No worries. Just didn't want anything I said to be perceived as critical of the team.
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Post by bamahoya11 on Aug 22, 2015 9:30:39 GMT -5
I refuse to panic about our upcoming season before Nick Saban has even named Alabama's starting quarterback for the upcoming football season. Thus, I'm willing to chalk this loss up as a learning experience and take it in stride. With so many key players out, it's not surprising me that our depleted lineup came up a little short once. I tend to agree with the others that it's good for us to practice these types of scenarios now. Anything we learn now will help next year. But the biggest thing to me seems that our freshman class will contribute top to bottom and our sophomore class will do the same now that Mourning is ready to add minutes. Thinking back to how I felt in the Portland airport in March, if I had been told that we would get those contributions from all of our young players I would be really optimistic about or chances. Next year is going to be a lot of fun. Think we will sort out our defense and have depth to keep a whole lot of teams guessing. I'm already just trying to enjoy the ride as this team finds its identity. Needless reference to southern state-school football team? I'm having Hifi flashbacks over here. Tell me, Bama: How are you connected to the Internet right now? (e.g., Wifi? Ethernet? Dial-up? Cup-and-string?) I'm not sure that I am as dumb as you seem to think I am. I watch the same games you do, unless I suppose you are either in Italy or a member of the coaching staff. And I offer occasional analysis to the extent that I think I can contribute something. The football reference was merely to underscore that we are a long way from our first game. And, I suppose, it also shows that I can follow multiple sports, even, gasp, a "state school."
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Post by kchoya on Aug 22, 2015 10:20:57 GMT -5
Needless reference to southern state-school football team? I'm having Hifi flashbacks over here. Tell me, Bama: How are you connected to the Internet right now? (e.g., Wifi? Ethernet? Dial-up? Cup-and-string?) I'm not sure that I am as dumb as you seem to think I am. I watch the same games you do, unless I suppose you are either in Italy or a member of the coaching staff. And I offer occasional analysis to the extent that I think I can contribute something. The football reference was merely to underscore that we are a long way from our first game. And, I suppose, it also shows that I can follow multiple sports, even, gasp, a "state school." I'm not sure you get the Hifi reference.
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Post by kchoya on Aug 22, 2015 10:23:15 GMT -5
Did David Allen graduate? I haven't seen him at Kenner or in any of the pictures from Italy. You should ask whitegamehats. He seems to know his whereabouts.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 22, 2015 10:26:01 GMT -5
Another point who can bang 3s??? How many do you think we've had under JT3? For me, that would be a prolific 3-pt shooter, i.e. 40+% from 3. At PG under JT3? DSR is a converted PG, but he is not an over 40% 3-pt shooter. Some here don't think he's a PG. Markel? Only one season over 40%. There really aren't as many point guards in college, relatively speaking, who shoot over 40% from the three-point line as you may think. If you are hitting 36% to 37% of your threes from that position you'll be seen as a "good" shooter from that distance. I think Markel was a reliable three-point threat throughout his career at GU and yet I believe he never shot 40% from beyond the arc in any given season. May be wrong about that though. Dukes backcourt (Jones and Cook) were considered Elite shooters, both were close but neither shot over 40%... Anything over 35% is good in my book
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Post by bicentennial on Aug 22, 2015 10:31:04 GMT -5
Last year there were 144 players in the NCAA Div 1 who shot 40% or over. How many were at high major programs playing against schools that actually play defense is unclear. I would think that if we have a good shooting team, anyone shooting less than 35% from three would be told to not shoot from three. Clearly, we have had many forwards who shot less than 50% from three and were told not to shoot except when in the key.
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Post by DanMcQ on Aug 22, 2015 13:49:44 GMT -5
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Post by DanMcQ on Aug 22, 2015 14:17:10 GMT -5
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Post by Hoyas4Ever on Aug 22, 2015 14:49:32 GMT -5
Anybody know if the team is playing under a 24, 30 or 35 second shot clock while on this trip? I assume it's 24 seconds but looking for confirmation?
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Post by DanMcQ on Aug 22, 2015 14:53:34 GMT -5
24 second shot clock
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Post by DanMcQ on Aug 22, 2015 14:53:59 GMT -5
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