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Post by EtomicB on Dec 4, 2017 17:49:06 GMT -5
I agree he is not a true PG, but he does have a pretty good handle and would probably be as good at the point as any of the other guards we currently project for next years team, and he is a good athlete and defender, that can score the ball, and as a high school recruit was viewed as a guy with great range on his jump shot. If the staff can find a high quality pure PG at this point for next year, I would take that player over Jones, but if not I think Jones would a really good addition if he was interested. Be interesting to see who is in on him and what other mid year transfers show up in the next few weeks. It's pretty clear that the staff views McClung as a point guard based on published statements. I'd be surprised if they targeted another PG in the same recruiting class. That said, Jones is not a point guard. He's an undersized shooting guard that can put points on the board. We could do worse, he'd be an interesting foil to Mosely who is also not a point guard, but more of a defensive-first shooting guard. All of a sudden, then, though, we'd have three smallish hybrid guards (McClung isn't a pure PG, even though the staff appears to be saying he will play the position), so not sure Jones is a great fit at this point. I'll be surprised if we target him. Jones is the same size as Mulmore and McClung is taller than Dickerson so it'd seem to me Gtown would have a bigger backcourt than it does this year if he were to join the team.. A possible backcourt rotation of Mosely, Blair, McClung & Jones would work for me..
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Post by EtomicB on Dec 5, 2017 10:31:11 GMT -5
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Post by hoyas315 on Dec 5, 2017 17:47:54 GMT -5
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Post by kbones17 on Dec 6, 2017 1:52:16 GMT -5
Does a mid year transfer mean that you only get 1.5 seasons of eligibility left (next season spring and sr year)? If so, I’d say pass. Much rather save that last scholarship for a real game changer for next season.
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Post by blazers44 on Dec 6, 2017 2:09:44 GMT -5
I believe he would be eligible December 2018 and have 2.5yrs left
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Post by bostonfan on Dec 26, 2017 10:22:34 GMT -5
I believe he would be eligible December 2018 and have 2.5yrs left Any update on where the Jones kid will end up? Does he need to enroll in a new school for the start of the spring semester to be eligible for the second half of next year? It sounded like Georgetown was somewhat involved but have not heard anything else about where he might end up.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 26, 2017 10:34:56 GMT -5
Saw he went to a VCU game recently, but that's it...
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Post by Lethal_Interjection on Dec 26, 2017 16:23:04 GMT -5
The Hoyas need another big, I'm not sure if going after another guard would help them out.
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Post by eastcoastteddy58 on Dec 26, 2017 16:37:12 GMT -5
The Hoyas need another big, I'm not sure if going after another guard would help them out. We need both IMO, not sure Curtis is the answer I've never seen him play but another guard as well as a big to replace Sodom would even us out. If I go any further with this we may need to move this to one of the recruit post.
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Post by ewingitrust on Dec 26, 2017 22:39:34 GMT -5
The Hoyas need another big, I'm not sure if going after another guard would help them out. Moses Brown Moses Brown Moses Brown! Ewing and staff can make that a real possibility.
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Post by Lethal_Interjection on Dec 27, 2017 7:18:58 GMT -5
The Hoyas need another big, I'm not sure if going after another guard would help them out. Moses Brown Moses Brown Moses Brown! Ewing and staff can make that a real possibility. I'd love to have him on board, but we'll see how it unfolds though, there's some stiff competition for his services.
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Post by bostonfan on Dec 27, 2017 8:26:31 GMT -5
The Hoyas need another big, I'm not sure if going after another guard would help them out. We need both IMO, not sure Curtis is the answer I've never seen him play but another guard as well as a big to replace Sodom would even us out. If I go any further with this we may need to move this to one of the recruit post. I agree that we need both. With Sodom not in the program any longer there is a need for another center, especially if Jessie leaves early. If Jessie stays for his senior year, and Trey comes back and plays next year, they could get by without a center who gets minutes right away next year, and might focus on some of the bigger names in the 2019 class. Those are both pretty big "ifs" at this point!!! Jones was recruited out of high school as a big time shooter and the Hoyas really need a consistent 3 point shooter for next year. Blair and Pickett sometimes look like they might develop into shooters, but neither are too consistent yet. If he wanted to come to the Hoyas I would take Jones in a minutes.
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Post by prhoya on Dec 27, 2017 8:52:49 GMT -5
We need both IMO, not sure Curtis is the answer I've never seen him play but another guard as well as a big to replace Sodom would even us out. If I go any further with this we may need to move this to one of the recruit post. I agree that we need both. With Sodom not in the program any longer there is a need for another center, especially if Jessie leaves early. If Jessie stays for his senior year, and Trey comes back and plays next year, they could get by without a center who gets minutes right away next year, and might focus on some of the bigger names in the 2019 class. Those are both pretty big "ifs" at this point!!! Jones was recruited out of high school as a big time shooter and the Hoyas really need a consistent 3 point shooter for next year. Blair and Pickett sometimes look like they might develop into shooters, but neither are too consistent yet. If he wanted to come to the Hoyas I would take Jones in a minutes. Jones hasn’t been consistent for Indiana and was behind four players (including a walk-on) in the rotation. I would like a proven 3-pt shooting grad with solid handles and solid on defense ready to help immediately or a freshman stud. Jones is a question mark right now. Hopefully Ewing sat with Jessie to discuss his future and has a good picture of what he needs. But, until Pat balances the roster, he cannot take on projects or question marks at any position.
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Post by EtomicB on Dec 27, 2017 12:44:16 GMT -5
I agree that we need both. With Sodom not in the program any longer there is a need for another center, especially if Jessie leaves early. If Jessie stays for his senior year, and Trey comes back and plays next year, they could get by without a center who gets minutes right away next year, and might focus on some of the bigger names in the 2019 class. Those are both pretty big "ifs" at this point!!! Jones was recruited out of high school as a big time shooter and the Hoyas really need a consistent 3 point shooter for next year. Blair and Pickett sometimes look like they might develop into shooters, but neither are too consistent yet. If he wanted to come to the Hoyas I would take Jones in a minutes. Jones hasn’t been consistent for Indiana and was behind four players (including a walk-on) in the rotation. I would like a proven 3-pt shooting grad with solid handles and solid on defense ready to help immediately or a freshman stud. Jones is a question mark right now. Hopefully Ewing sat with Jessie to discuss his future and has a good picture of what he needs. But, until Pat balances the roster, he cannot take on projects or question marks at any position. A lot of programs will be in the market for a post grad with the skills you describe, more than likely that kid is going to go to a program that will definitely be in the tourney.. As others have posted if Jones were on Gtown now, he'd be getting more backcourt minutes than any guard on the roster.. I'm not trying to make him out to be an all league type but he is an upgrade over the 2 guards that are leaving at the end ns if the season..
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Post by prhoya on Dec 27, 2017 15:30:28 GMT -5
Jones hasn’t been consistent for Indiana and was behind four players (including a walk-on) in the rotation. I would like a proven 3-pt shooting grad with solid handles and solid on defense ready to help immediately or a freshman stud. Jones is a question mark right now. Hopefully Ewing sat with Jessie to discuss his future and has a good picture of what he needs. But, until Pat balances the roster, he cannot take on projects or question marks at any position. A lot of programs will be in the market for a post grad with the skills you describe, more than likely that kid is going to go to a program that will definitely be in the tourney.. As others have posted if Jones were on Gtown now, he'd be getting more backcourt minutes than any guard on the roster.. I'm not trying to make him out to be an all league type but he is an upgrade over the 2 guards that are leaving at the end ns if the season.. If Govan stays, we're in the tourney next year. Pat can draw a good/great grad with plenty of pt available. Not going to assume playing time because it's useless.
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Post by eastcoastteddy58 on Dec 27, 2017 17:56:17 GMT -5
We need both IMO, not sure Curtis is the answer I've never seen him play but another guard as well as a big to replace Sodom would even us out. If I go any further with this we may need to move this to one of the recruit post. I agree that we need both. With Sodom not in the program any longer there is a need for another center, especially if Jessie leaves early. If Jessie stays for his senior year, and Trey comes back and plays next year, they could get by without a center who gets minutes right away next year, and might focus on some of the bigger names in the 2019 class. Those are both pretty big "ifs" at this point!!! Jones was recruited out of high school as a big time shooter and the Hoyas really need a consistent 3 point shooter for next year. Blair and Pickett sometimes look like they might develop into shooters, but neither are too consistent yet. If he wanted to come to the Hoyas I would take Jones in a minutes. Looking at the Hoya's depth chart for next year, as far as guards are concerned, I see; Jagan Mosely, Jahvon Blair, Mac Mclung, and Gregory Malinowski. Mosley and Mac will be getting to the rim while both Blair and Malinowski are shooters and as far as behind the arc consistency both Blair and Malinowski aren't really all that bad. But I would like to see PE recruit another guard, either a true PG with a great handle or a big PG/SF that we can use to apply full court pressure on the inbound.
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Post by EtomicB on Dec 27, 2017 19:05:24 GMT -5
A lot of programs will be in the market for a post grad with the skills you describe, more than likely that kid is going to go to a program that will definitely be in the tourney.. As others have posted if Jones were on Gtown now, he'd be getting more backcourt minutes than any guard on the roster.. I'm not trying to make him out to be an all league type but he is an upgrade over the 2 guards that are leaving at the end ns if the season.. If Govan stays, we're in the tourney next year. Pat can draw a good/great grad with plenty of pt available. Not going to assume playing time because it's useless. I like what you're thinking but it seems like a lot of hope on your part.. My feelings on Jones are that he'll be an upgrade over the players who are leaving if he were to come aboard..
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Post by prhoya on Dec 27, 2017 19:12:48 GMT -5
If Govan stays, we're in the tourney next year. Pat can draw a good/great grad with plenty of pt available. Not going to assume playing time because it's useless. I like what you're thinking but it seems like a lot of hope on your part.. My feelings on Jones are that he'll be an upgrade over the players who are leaving if he were to come aboard.. Glass half-full... Whether he is or not an upgrade, wouldn't you rather go for a proven grad or a stud frosh guard who would love to play for the new-look Hoyas under Pat?
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Post by EtomicB on Dec 27, 2017 19:33:30 GMT -5
I like what you're thinking but it seems like a lot of hope on your part.. My feelings on Jones are that he'll be an upgrade over the players who are leaving if he were to come aboard.. Glass half-full... Whether he is or not an upgrade, wouldn't you rather go for a proven grad or a stud frosh guard who would love to play for the new-look Hoyas under Pat? I'm a bird in the hand type so my answer is no.. Not saying Jones is a lock for Gtown if they pursue but I'd take a hard look, I like the fact that he'd get to practice PE's system for a year.. I'm not a big fan of grad transfers on building teams, I'd rather have a kid who'll be here awhile.. As for the stud frosh, who's that? Are you hoping for a de-commit?
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Post by prhoya on Dec 27, 2017 20:11:24 GMT -5
As for the stud frosh, who's that? Are you hoping for a de-commit? Yes, sign of the times... I like the grads to fill gaps immediately. Say for example next year, if Govan stays, the primary need would be a guard. Why go with a transfer in waiting and waste Govan's final year.
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