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Post by eastcoastteddy58 on Dec 3, 2017 18:27:17 GMT -5
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Post by prhoya on Dec 3, 2017 18:53:23 GMT -5
We were in it to the end with this guy. Different staff, but hopefully we get involved again. Why? Nothing special or good up to this point. Would rather go with a grad or JUCO player who plays the same position, but who scores. Maybe he was a good miss for JT3.
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Post by EtomicB on Dec 3, 2017 19:10:03 GMT -5
I don't see it Teddy.. Outside of transferring mid year, there's nothing similar about Copeland & Jones imo..
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Post by williambraskyiii on Dec 3, 2017 19:15:46 GMT -5
We were in it to the end with this guy. Different staff, but hopefully we get involved again. Why? Nothing special or good up to this point. Would rather go with a grad or JUCO player who plays the same position, but who scores. Maybe he was a good miss for JT3. Huh? This makes no sense. I seem to recall and Indiana transfer guard from Ohio that carved up the Hoyas pretty good. Not sure what he did before he transferred but I’d venture to guess not much.
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Post by prhoya on Dec 3, 2017 19:17:25 GMT -5
Why? Nothing special or good up to this point. Would rather go with a grad or JUCO player who plays the same position, but who scores. Maybe he was a good miss for JT3. Huh? This makes no sense. I seem to recall and Indiana transfer guard from Ohio that carved up the Hoyas pretty good. Not sure what he did before he transferred but I’d venture to guess not much. Huh? This doesn't make sense. There have been plenty of guards who have carved us up. I want a better player than what Jones has shown.
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Post by williambraskyiii on Dec 3, 2017 19:19:39 GMT -5
Huh? This makes no sense. I seem to recall and Indiana transfer guard from Ohio that carved up the Hoyas pretty good. Not sure what he did before he transferred but I’d venture to guess not much. Huh? This doesn't make sense. There have been plenty of guards who have carved us up. I want a better player than what Jones has shown. That’s short-sighted and dumb. But it’s a good hot take I guess.
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Post by prhoya on Dec 3, 2017 19:24:58 GMT -5
Huh? This doesn't make sense. There have been plenty of guards who have carved us up. I want a better player than what Jones has shown. That’s short-sighted and dumb. But it’s a good hot take I guess. There you go again with your insults. No, your response is dumb. Jones has not shown to be a better guard than all those players listed in that article. Why experiment with him when we can take a better player? We have good guards -Blair, Mosley and Mac - next year. We need a proven, scoring PG.
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Post by dense on Dec 3, 2017 19:34:05 GMT -5
That’s short-sighted and dumb. But it’s a good hot take I guess. There you go again with your insults. No, your response is dumb. Jones has not shown to be a better guard than all those players listed in that article. Why experiment with him when we can take a better player? We have good guards -Blair, Mosley and Mac - next year. We need a proven, scoring PG. Taking someone PPG and extrapolating it is not always correct. Think of Hoyas who averaged nothing then went and blew up somewhere else. Curtis is a talented player definitely better than anyone currently on roster
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Post by prhoya on Dec 3, 2017 19:42:17 GMT -5
There you go again with your insults. No, your response is dumb. Jones has not shown to be a better guard than all those players listed in that article. Why experiment with him when we can take a better player? We have good guards -Blair, Mosley and Mac - next year. We need a proven, scoring PG. Taking someone PPG and extrapolating it is not always correct. Think of Hoyas who averaged nothing then went and blew up somewhere else. Curtis is a talented player definitely better than anyone currently on roster Agree that it is not always correct, but it could go either way. Other Hoyas have left and stayed the same or worse. Maybe staying could've helped. Impossible to tell. According to that article, Curtis was: "Noted as a 3-point shooter when he arrived at Indiana, Jones shot 35 percent from 3 as a freshman and was hitting at just a 22 percent clip as a sophomore. He had fallen behind seniors Josh Newkirk and Robert Johnson, fellow sophomore Devonte Green and freshman Al Durham in the guard rotation under Miller and will now look for a new school where he will be eligible by the middle of next season." IMO, Pat can get better guards.
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Post by 95hoya on Dec 3, 2017 21:26:18 GMT -5
I would definitely take Jones. We need scoring and he's wired to score. He was a better fit under Crean.
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Post by trillesthoya on Dec 3, 2017 23:00:32 GMT -5
Bring him in and have him qualify second half of next season just in time for our final four run.
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Post by Bigs"R"Us on Dec 3, 2017 23:34:14 GMT -5
I would definitely take him. A change of scenery may help rejuvenate his game. He has skills.
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Post by dense on Dec 4, 2017 5:30:37 GMT -5
Taking someone PPG and extrapolating it is not always correct. Think of Hoyas who averaged nothing then went and blew up somewhere else. Curtis is a talented player definitely better than anyone currently on roster Agree that it is not always correct, but it could go either way. Other Hoyas have left and stayed the same or worse. Maybe staying could've helped. Impossible to tell. According to that article, Curtis was: "Noted as a 3-point shooter when he arrived at Indiana, Jones shot 35 percent from 3 as a freshman and was hitting at just a 22 percent clip as a sophomore. He had fallen behind seniors Josh Newkirk and Robert Johnson, fellow sophomore Devonte Green and freshman Al Durham in the guard rotation under Miller and will now look for a new school where he will be eligible by the middle of next season." IMO, Pat can get better guards. This situation is different for me(also because I have seen him play extensively). Curtis is a scorer. New coach always causes this. I think his game is not conducive to Miller's likelings. He just fell out of favor.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 4, 2017 8:24:01 GMT -5
Yes or no today... I'd say yes.
Odds are low we'd get another guard more talented for next year.
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Post by Bigs"R"Us on Dec 4, 2017 10:22:29 GMT -5
Agree. We lose Mulmore and Dickerson. We need more than just Mosely and McClung for ball handling. I don't see Blair as a viable PG. Mosely is adequate, but not enough of an offensive threat at this point.
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Post by blazers44 on Dec 4, 2017 10:46:20 GMT -5
Jones seems more like a shooting guard to me. Don't think he is the hoyas answer at point.
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Post by bostonfan on Dec 4, 2017 11:32:54 GMT -5
Jones seems more like a shooting guard to me. Don't think he is the hoyas answer at point. I agree he is not a true PG, but he does have a pretty good handle and would probably be as good at the point as any of the other guards we currently project for next years team, and he is a good athlete and defender, that can score the ball, and as a high school recruit was viewed as a guy with great range on his jump shot. If the staff can find a high quality pure PG at this point for next year, I would take that player over Jones, but if not I think Jones would a really good addition if he was interested. Be interesting to see who is in on him and what other mid year transfers show up in the next few weeks.
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Post by Bigs"R"Us on Dec 4, 2017 14:20:41 GMT -5
I want players that fit the new system- uptempo, above the rim and three point range. Jones fit the bill. Not a fan of 5th years or jucos.
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Post by hoyaboya on Dec 4, 2017 16:08:23 GMT -5
Jones seems more like a shooting guard to me. Don't think he is the hoyas answer at point. I agree he is not a true PG, but he does have a pretty good handle and would probably be as good at the point as any of the other guards we currently project for next years team, and he is a good athlete and defender, that can score the ball, and as a high school recruit was viewed as a guy with great range on his jump shot. If the staff can find a high quality pure PG at this point for next year, I would take that player over Jones, but if not I think Jones would a really good addition if he was interested. Be interesting to see who is in on him and what other mid year transfers show up in the next few weeks. It's pretty clear that the staff views McClung as a point guard based on published statements. I'd be surprised if they targeted another PG in the same recruiting class. That said, Jones is not a point guard. He's an undersized shooting guard that can put points on the board. We could do worse, he'd be an interesting foil to Mosely who is also not a point guard, but more of a defensive-first shooting guard. All of a sudden, then, though, we'd have three smallish hybrid guards (McClung isn't a pure PG, even though the staff appears to be saying he will play the position), so not sure Jones is a great fit at this point. I'll be surprised if we target him.
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Post by Bigs"R"Us on Dec 4, 2017 16:49:04 GMT -5
I don't expect we will. I wouldn't get too caught up on size and focus on quickness, hops and ability to score. We could use another solid ball handler though.
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