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Post by bamahoya11 on Mar 22, 2015 12:38:26 GMT -5
I was at the games this weekend, and it was a pretty remarkable contrast. Thursday night was one of my favorites as a Hoya and last night was one of the worst. Don't take this as criticism of anybody--I feel far worse for the players than I do for myself. After the game I cut through a bunch of Utah fans in my section above the entrance to our locker room so I could cheer and thank our players for their hard work this year. Seeing Hop so inconsolable as he walked off the floor had me with tears in my eyes too.
When we were up 21-10, I was already worried about our decisions to take threes and not work the ball inside. As best I could tell, Utah was really responsible for our struggles with truly outstanding defense. Our guys would work 25-30 seconds off without even really being able to set up a play. As the second half dragged on, it was frustrating. Plus, as Utah made the big comeback, the PAC 12-centered crowd seemed to coalesce around them. I agree that the four minute scoring drought when we were down one was the key turning point in the game. You could just feel that we needed to get over the hump, and we couldn't.
Still, there are things to like about this tournament. What stands out to me is that our future led the way. Tre and Paul were fantastic on Thursday, and Ike and LJ were excellent yesterday. For the first time yesterday I could truly understand why LJ is such a highly regarded talent. He was tremendous on both ends of the floor in my opinion. When you combine that talent with a seasoned veteran in DSR and another really strong class coming in, there is a lot to look forward to. I just don't want to wait right now!
All in all, this was a rewarding season. We had a group that played hard until the end, and I'm proud of their efforts. Hoya Saxa!
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Post by rockhoya on Mar 22, 2015 12:44:41 GMT -5
If our offense scored literally every time we took possession in the last 8 minutes as well? Correct. It wouldn't have mattered. The offense stalled after the Hoyas went up by ten before the midway mark of the first half. Later on in that half the Hoyas would score their 30th point with over five minutes left and would only manage to score two lousy points the rest of the way. In the opening ten minutes of the second half the Hoyas also suffered patches of droughts. One could argue that the offense faltered because Utah is allegedly such a great defensive team, but the truth is that III's teams have these droughts way too often even when the opponent's defense isn't all that great. So the point I'm making is that if the offense had stayed sharp enough throughout the entire game the Hoyas would have won and even with Utah's near perfect final 8 minutes. It wouldn't have mattered. In the previous loss it was just the reverse with the Hoyas playing great on offense in the final minutes against Xavier in the BE tourney with Xavier going cold in the end. Last time I checked the game is 40 minutes. You don't get a pass for executing on offense for 10 to 15 minutes of a game. You get beat. In the previous game against Eastern Washington the Hoyas were cold for the first seven to eight minutes of the game and were so sloppy with the ball in the final ten minutes of the contest that it almost cost them. More examples of lack of execution/bad offense leading to self-inflicted droughts. Luckily the team scored so many points between those two periods that they had enough of a cushion to win. It helped that they shot over 50% from the floor too. The defense did its job in that game holding the shooting percentage of E. Washington down but it would not have mattered if the Hoyas were unable to put over 80 points. In my opinion this board too often glosses over all the offensive mistakes of this team; people here save their criticisms for the defense being unable to hold every opponent under 40% from the field. Sometimes an opposing team is going to make shots no matter what you do so it is important that you are able to execute well on offense (shoot at least 45% to 46% without turning the ball over much) over the course of an entire game. Also being able to go to the free throw line often on a regular basis helps too. There was improvement in these areas for the Hoyas this season but not nearly enough for me to consider them a likely threat to make it t the sweet Sixteen, something I alluded to just before their first BET game last week. In the first half it seemed as though III was trying to steal minutes and preserve DSR in anticipation of our hot shooting steak ending. That killed our momentum when it went to the bench.
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Post by wrestlemania on Mar 22, 2015 12:50:13 GMT -5
One last post in this thread for me. Now that I've had the chance to digest last night's loss, and the end of the season. . . 1. I wrote, much earlier this system, that this team was flawed, and that it would be a bumpy season while the freshmen had a chance to develop. I believe that I finished that post with the phrase "Let's enjoy the ride." Well, I enjoyed the ride. I did not expect this team to go far in the NCAAs due to the up-and-down nature of the season. Would I have liked to have seen the Hoyas get to the Sweet Sixteen. Of course. There was just too much inconsistency to ensure that it would happen, though, and that inconsistency was very predictable. 2. There is not a single soul on this board who believes that we merited a #4 seed this season. We were, by all accounts, overseeded. Utah was, by all accounts, underseeded. Utah was in the top fifteen almost all season. The highest we were ever ranked was #21. Had we been a #5 or #6 seed, and lost to a #4 Utah, there would have been very little complaint (or, maybe, should have been very little complaint). The NCAA Selection Committee did us a favor with the seeding, and we, as a fan base, foolishly believed that we deserved the #4 and reordered our expectations accordingly. 3. We can complain all we want about Joshua Smith's propensity for poor defensive technique and ensuing foul trouble, and we can complain all we want about Mikael Hopkins's lack of offensive ability. We cannot complain about their desire to improve and to play hard. We, as a fan base, keep expecting square pegs to adapt to round holes; Smith is who he is, and Hopkins is who he is. We got everything we could out of them, as players, and we cannot expect that they would suddenly become centers with greater abilities. One of the things that we have largely forgotten is that Tyler Adams was recruited by JT3 to play center, and we will never really know how that would have worked out because of Adams's health issues. If Adams is healthy, is there room for Smith on the roster? It's hard to extrapolate. We should have, as fans, accepted that flaw, but we continued to expect more; we set ourselves up for an unwarranted disappointment. 4. The eagerness of some posters to throw JT3 under the bus, with each and every loss, is astonishing and perplexing. Not every GU loss is a coaching failure. Sometimes, like last night, you play a better team, and you get beaten. On those occasions, it has nothing to do with heart, or desire, or toughness, or even execution, and it certainly has nothing to do with coaching. Are there in-game decisions that are questionable? Absolutely. Is there a better coach available right now, to take over the program, if you were inclined to simply judge the Hoya program on March success? I don't see one out there. In fact, there is an old adage that bears consideration: Be careful what you ask for, because you just might get it. 5. A lot is being written today about the perceived shortcomings of the Big East Conference in this year's tournament. If you look at the season-long rankings in the AP and USA Today, as well as RPI and ESPN's BPI, we rightfully could only have expected one team (Villanova) to get through to the Sweet Sixteen. The Big East did get one team through. . . .just not the one we thought would get through. The fact that the Pacific 12 and Atlantic Coast Conference have had strong runs this year does not diminish the Big East. Again, the NCAA's overseeding of GU was illusory. 6. All in all, it was an exciting and enjoyable season. We have great reason for optimism going into the 2015-2016 season; I look forward to seeing what Jessie Govan and Marcus Derrickson bring to the Hilltop. I look forward to seeing whether Akoi Agau can make a contribution once he is eligible. I look forward to seeing continued growth from the returning players. We have every reason to expect more from this group next year. From my perspective, it's time to stop looking back, and begin looking ahead. Amen, plus the following: -- Here's a bit of trivia for you. You know who this board was pushing as a replacement for Esh? Joe Scott, who was coaching Air Force at the time. He eventually replaced JTIII at Princeton, stayed two years (posting a sterling 11-19 record in year two), then hopped the first train to the University of Denver. Fran Dunphy's name was also thrown around -- he's done okay at Temple but there is no reason to believe he would have done better than JTIII at Georgetown. The idea that the grass is always greener is wrong -- ask Seton Hall, St. John's, Boston College etc. Look how long Providence struggled before Cooley got there. There are many more examples of this throughout Division I. -- The glory years have long been over -- Pops achieved his success during a much different time, when fewer teams could legitimately compete with him in TV exposure and recruiting. To a HS hotshot, GU has no meaningful athletic culture outside of basketball, a lousy off-campus home arena, so-so student support, and antiquated practice facilities (although the new athletic center should change that). In all of those respects, GU is really no different than DePaul. Perhaps we should feel fortunate that the program has done as well as it has. This is not "settling" - it is acknowledging facts over which the basketball team has had little or no control. -- The academics/"recruiting the right people" issue is real. Teams historically considered to be GU's rivals or in the tier to which people on this board believe GU should aspire are bigtime violators of NCAA rules (Connecticut, Syracuse, apparently North Carolina) or otherwise appear to turn their eyes away from uncomfortable situations (St. John's and Duke, among others). GU learned its lesson with Michael Graham, and to my knowledge that experience has not been repeated in the thirty years since. Anyone who thinks this has nothing to do with why some programs do better than others isn't paying attention. It ain't perfect, but it ain't bad either. Deal with it.
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Post by Filo on Mar 22, 2015 13:12:30 GMT -5
One last post in this thread for me. Now that I've had the chance to digest last night's loss, and the end of the season. . . 1. I wrote, much earlier this system, that this team was flawed, and that it would be a bumpy season while the freshmen had a chance to develop. I believe that I finished that post with the phrase "Let's enjoy the ride." Well, I enjoyed the ride. I did not expect this team to go far in the NCAAs due to the up-and-down nature of the season. Would I have liked to have seen the Hoyas get to the Sweet Sixteen. Of course. There was just too much inconsistency to ensure that it would happen, though, and that inconsistency was very predictable. 2. There is not a single soul on this board who believes that we merited a #4 seed this season. We were, by all accounts, overseeded. Utah was, by all accounts, underseeded. Utah was in the top fifteen almost all season. The highest we were ever ranked was #21. Had we been a #5 or #6 seed, and lost to a #4 Utah, there would have been very little complaint (or, maybe, should have been very little complaint). The NCAA Selection Committee did us a favor with the seeding, and we, as a fan base, foolishly believed that we deserved the #4 and reordered our expectations accordingly. 3. We can complain all we want about Joshua Smith's propensity for poor defensive technique and ensuing foul trouble, and we can complain all we want about Mikael Hopkins's lack of offensive ability. We cannot complain about their desire to improve and to play hard. We, as a fan base, keep expecting square pegs to adapt to round holes; Smith is who he is, and Hopkins is who he is. We got everything we could out of them, as players, and we cannot expect that they would suddenly become centers with greater abilities. One of the things that we have largely forgotten is that Tyler Adams was recruited by JT3 to play center, and we will never really know how that would have worked out because of Adams's health issues. If Adams is healthy, is there room for Smith on the roster? It's hard to extrapolate. We should have, as fans, accepted that flaw, but we continued to expect more; we set ourselves up for an unwarranted disappointment. 4. The eagerness of some posters to throw JT3 under the bus, with each and every loss, is astonishing and perplexing. Not every GU loss is a coaching failure. Sometimes, like last night, you play a better team, and you get beaten. On those occasions, it has nothing to do with heart, or desire, or toughness, or even execution, and it certainly has nothing to do with coaching. Are there in-game decisions that are questionable? Absolutely. Is there a better coach available right now, to take over the program, if you were inclined to simply judge the Hoya program on March success? I don't see one out there. In fact, there is an old adage that bears consideration: Be careful what you ask for, because you just might get it. 5. A lot is being written today about the perceived shortcomings of the Big East Conference in this year's tournament. If you look at the season-long rankings in the AP and USA Today, as well as RPI and ESPN's BPI, we rightfully could only have expected one team (Villanova) to get through to the Sweet Sixteen. The Big East did get one team through. . . .just not the one we thought would get through. The fact that the Pacific 12 and Atlantic Coast Conference have had strong runs this year does not diminish the Big East. Again, the NCAA's overseeding of GU was illusory. 6. All in all, it was an exciting and enjoyable season. We have great reason for optimism going into the 2015-2016 season; I look forward to seeing what Jessie Govan and Marcus Derrickson bring to the Hilltop. I look forward to seeing whether Akoi Agau can make a contribution once he is eligible. I look forward to seeing continued growth from the returning players. We have every reason to expect more from this group next year. From my perspective, it's time to stop looking back, and begin looking ahead. I'd like to address your number 5 because I was thinking about it after the Butler game last night. Given the seedings, the BE performed well enough: the BE was expected to have gone 5-1 in the first round. BE teams ended up 4-2 when PC unfortunately drew a de facto road game against Dayton. Would they have won otherwise? It's difficult to tell, but it's certainly much harder to get out of the rut they were in when playing essentially on the road. Again, according to the seedings, the BE was expected to have at most 2 Sweet 16 teams in Georgetown and Nova. Given that Utah was the only lower seed favored in the games yesterday, it was pretty clear they deserved to be the 4 and us the 5. The BE has one team in the sweet 16, which should have been really the expected number. All that being said, Nova absolutely soiled themselves yesterday. Despite our disappointing loss last night (simply by virtue of the fact that all losses are disappointing), I count myself lucky that I am not a Nova fan this morning. I don't put much stock into tournament performance as overall validation of a season or as indication of the quality of a particular conference. Don't get me wrong, I love when we make deep tourney runs and the extended season and success is certainly helpful on the recruiting and fan base fronts. But really, is this UCLA team that is currently in the Sweet 16 (after beating a really mediocre six seed on a questionable call then going on to beat a 14 seed in the next round) of any greater quality than some alternate version where the goaltending call was never made, sending UCLA home after one game? Does that mean the Pac-12 was better this year because of UCLA's "luck"? That seems utterly ridiculous. Good posts NJ and Jinx. I haven't watched any tournament coverage since our loss and am going to watch very little the rest of the way because I just don't want to hear the crap about the ACC vs. BE. Tough to argue with the results, but it really is meaningless. ND, NC, NC State, Louisville and even UVa all struggled mightily in their first round games and were lucky to come away with wins. It's the nature of the tournament and the fact that the ACC teams narrowly escaped with wins proves nothing about the strength of the ACC vs. the Big East. The head-to-head match-ups maybe a little bit - but one would have expected ND to edge Butler, and Nova? Well, Nova just sucks. LOL.
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Post by michaelgrahamfan on Mar 22, 2015 13:20:26 GMT -5
I feel those were two excellent posts however we have to focus on two years down the road. The need for a pass first point guard is critical and lacking. In two years, if we can retain our players, we could be a force with a brighter recruiting future.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 22, 2015 13:33:11 GMT -5
I feel those were two excellent posts however we have to focus on two years down the road. The need for a pass first point guard is critical and lacking. In two years, if we can retain our players, we could be a force with a brighter recruiting future. Exactly MG it’s a process.. Ike and the crew as Juniors, Govan and Crew as sophs, and a talented Freshman group is a team I would have very high expectations for
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Post by Big Dog on Mar 22, 2015 13:48:12 GMT -5
I haven't really read any of the discussion about the game and I'm not sure I need to. Anyone who doesn't recognize that Utah was clearly better than Georgetown all season can take it up with the tournament committee. They set us up nicely for a first-round win with that undeserved 4 seed, but they screwed us by assigning the best 5 seed in the tournament as a pairing--I would have loved to see Arkansas or WVU or whatever. Making the Sweet Sixteen would have been fun, obviously, but it is hard for me to upset or disappointed with this team, which I think met expectations.
The result last night that absolutely infuriated and humiliated me was Villanova losing. I was terrified all year of the conference putting their eggs in the Jay Wright basket when nobody but us could beat them, because all it was going to take was one pre-Final Four loss to destroy all of the good that the conference did. And Villanova did it. Thanks for nothing, you miserable losers.
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Post by michaelgrahamfan on Mar 22, 2015 14:23:53 GMT -5
Could not have said it better. I have to get my post Boeheim list of coaches to hate.
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Post by SFHoya99 on Mar 22, 2015 14:38:24 GMT -5
General Thoughts: - Utah is probably better than us. They played better than us yesterday, and better than us, on average, all season. They made some really tough plays down the stretch and we didn't. They kept us from getting easy shots as well.
- That said, I would have really liked our team and especially our seniors, to go out completely on their own terms. That four call sequence -- the DSR "travel", the Trawick "block", the weird 1 and 1 and not two shot foul on Smith (when they had already gifted a weird should-have-been-on-the-floor-but-call-it-shooting earlier in the game to Utah, and then the 50/50 blocking foul on Trawick -- basically killed our chances. We went from perhaps one or two down to seven with very little time left.
- That's when our players made plays, like they did, but the refs took it out of their hands. It sucks to see someone like Trawick, who worked so hard, actually MAKE the play and get robbed because the refs are sloppy or out of position.
- I had a lot of fun watching this team this year despite the frustrations. It's true that if Josh could have lost more weight, or if he wouldn't be so idiotic in his fouls, we'd have been better. It's true that if Hopkins could just convert the easy shots, we'd have been much better. It's true that if we were a more consistent shooting team -- from layups to threes, we'd have been much better. It's true that if quite a few members of the team could stop fouling all the time, we'd be better. But all that said, we were around the 25th best team in the country. I find it hard to complain about that. It was a weird season -- few big wins, almost no bad losses. But I enjoyed much of it, and it's really hard to complain too much.
- I've been posting less and less, mostly because this board has become miserable. Just a ton of people posting the same old complaints, as if off a template, with no backup. How intolerable a person do you have to be to post a massive complaint thread after a NCAA win? Or just not post at all for several weeks only to come on after a loss with the same drivel you've been posting for ten years? I find myself spending more time at casual or just away from Georgetown fans because there are just too many people here who are miserable -- who simply cannot appreciate anything good or happy. Who are too invested in their personal crusade to ever enjoy a win or see that perhaps it isn't right.
- And even though this hasn't been a tourney for upsets so far, but I have to question anyone who doesn't realize that single-elimination tournaments are inherently more of a crapshoot AND there's a huge amount of parity except for maybe the top 2-3 teams in college basketball. UCLA, of all teams, has now made it farther than not only us, but Villanova, UVA, Iowa State and Baylor. Does anyone really think they are a better team? That Steve Alford is somehow magical? The level of critical thinking on this board sometimes stuns me.
- Thanks so much to the senior class. I was very hard on Hopkins for a long time, but he had a very nice run at the end of his senior year. Trawick had a HELLUVA senior year. Bowen worked his way into a valuable contributor. Tyler Adams might be the best teammate ever, all things considered. Josh Smith proved a lot of people wrong and frankly, this team doesn't make the tournament without him. Best of luck to all of them!
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Post by SDHoya on Mar 22, 2015 15:00:16 GMT -5
Utah was very good yesterday and could not miss down the stretch. But without some absolutely atrocious refereeing this would have been a game coming down to the last shot.
Complain about this team all you want. But this was not a collapse or a Ohio like embarrassment. Our boys acquitted themselves quite well. Do we all want more from this team? Absolutely. But yesterday was an outstanding game between two very strong teams that would have come to an epic finish (in which we may still have lost) if not for some bizarre officiating.
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Post by NCHoya on Mar 22, 2015 15:02:30 GMT -5
I hear SF about the board going negative, but it is actually just a handful of over-active posters. Casual has a better vibe, but you cannot post well thought out posts which is what I come to appreciate from several posters here. Eventually those folks that seem to be miserable being fans of Georgetown will hopefully go away and find a new team or not use this board as a place to vent their misery. At least they will not be around in the off season.
It is actually a microcosm of what is going on with college ball in general. March has become the be-all end-all because of how much attention and money has poured into March Madness and it makes no sense. A single game 68-team elimination tournament is about the worst way to crown the best team as champion, but it is the most exciting way to do it. Problem is too many people do not appreciate the excitement and fixate on a single game performance nonsense.
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Post by This Just In on Mar 22, 2015 15:06:16 GMT -5
This post is for SleepyJackson 21 who made a thread dedicated to calling SF Austin and Utah trash after seeing them play on Thursday.
Also stated that if JTIII did not make the Sweet 16 this year, he did not know when he would ever make one.
SleepyJackons21, after seeing Utah win by 11 points last night vs. Gtown, do you still view Utah as trash?
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Post by FrazierFanatic on Mar 22, 2015 16:16:22 GMT -5
I feel those were two excellent posts however we have to focus on two years down the road. The need for a pass first point guard is critical and lacking. In two years, if we can retain our players, we could be a force with a brighter recruiting future. Exactly MG it’s a process.. Ike and the crew as Juniors, Govan and Crew as sophs, and a talented Freshman group is a team I would have very high expectations for Stop getting me excited, I'm not finished grieving this season.
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Post by FrazierFanatic on Mar 22, 2015 16:25:25 GMT -5
General Thoughts: - Utah is probably better than us. They played better than us yesterday, and better than us, on average, all season. They made some really tough plays down the stretch and we didn't. They kept us from getting easy shots as well.
- That said, I would have really liked our team and especially our seniors, to go out completely on their own terms. That four call sequence -- the DSR "travel", the Trawick "block", the weird 1 and 1 and not two shot foul on Smith (when they had already gifted a weird should-have-been-on-the-floor-but-call-it-shooting earlier in the game to Utah, and then the 50/50 blocking foul on Trawick -- basically killed our chances. We went from perhaps one or two down to seven with very little time left.
- That's when our players made plays, like they did, but the refs took it out of their hands. It sucks to see someone like Trawick, who worked so hard, actually MAKE the play and get robbed because the refs are sloppy or out of position.
- I had a lot of fun watching this team this year despite the frustrations. It's true that if Josh could have lost more weight, or if he wouldn't be so idiotic in his fouls, we'd have been better. It's true that if Hopkins could just convert the easy shots, we'd have been much better. It's true that if we were a more consistent shooting team -- from layups to threes, we'd have been much better. It's true that if quite a few members of the team could stop fouling all the time, we'd be better. But all that said, we were around the 25th best team in the country. I find it hard to complain about that. It was a weird season -- few big wins, almost no bad losses. But I enjoyed much of it, and it's really hard to complain too much.
- I've been posting less and less, mostly because this board has become miserable. Just a ton of people posting the same old complaints, as if off a template, with no backup. How intolerable a person do you have to be to post a massive complaint thread after a NCAA win? Or just not post at all for several weeks only to come on after a loss with the same drivel you've been posting for ten years? I find myself spending more time at casual or just away from Georgetown fans because there are just too many people here who are miserable -- who simply cannot appreciate anything good or happy. Who are too invested in their personal crusade to ever enjoy a win or see that perhaps it isn't right.
- And even though this hasn't been a tourney for upsets so far, but I have to question anyone who doesn't realize that single-elimination tournaments are inherently more of a crapshoot AND there's a huge amount of parity except for maybe the top 2-3 teams in college basketball. UCLA, of all teams, has now made it farther than not only us, but Villanova, UVA, Iowa State and Baylor. Does anyone really think they are a better team? That Steve Alford is somehow magical? The level of critical thinking on this board sometimes stuns me.
- Thanks so much to the senior class. I was very hard on Hopkins for a long time, but he had a very nice run at the end of his senior year. Trawick had a HELLUVA senior year. Bowen worked his way into a valuable contributor. Tyler Adams might be the best teammate ever, all things considered. Josh Smith proved a lot of people wrong and frankly, this team doesn't make the tournament without him. Best of luck to all of them!
SF I understand your angst, but try not to let the naysayers drive you away. There is still plenty of worthwhile discussion and analysis here, you just have to ignore(or block) the HoyaTalk negatives. Very very excited for next season. It will be a long off season, but it will be worth the wait.
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Post by bmartin on Mar 22, 2015 17:52:09 GMT -5
Not in any way intended as an excuse, but I wonder if DSR's knee still bothered him. In both the BET and the NCAA he had a 25-point first game but then struggled in the quick turn around and scored 11 against Xavier and 12 against Utah. Yes, Xavier and Utah defended him well, but he made only 1 of 13 threes against them and they were not all closely contested. He also did not seem to have his A-game breakdown ability to create off the dribble.
When Joshua tied the game at 53 with 7 minutes left, DSR had scored six points. He tried to rise to the occasion - he used four of the next eight possessions - two made jumpers, the travel call, and a missed three. The other four possessions were a White missed 3, a Smith missed one-and-one, a Peak layup, and a Copeland missed 3.
On the other end we were not able to stop Utah during that stretch, fell behind by 9, and were reduced to intentionally fouling.
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Post by grandmahoya on Mar 22, 2015 19:24:52 GMT -5
Not in any way intended as an excuse, but I wonder if DSR's knee still bothered him. In both the BET and the NCAA he had a 25-point first game but then struggled in the quick turn around and scored 11 against Xavier and 12 against Utah. Yes, Xavier and Utah defended him well, but he made only 1 of 13 threes against them and they were not all closely contested. He also did not seem to have his A-game breakdown ability to create off the dribble. When Joshua tied the game at 53 with 7 minutes left, DSR had scored six points. He tried to rise to the occasion - he used four of the next eight possessions - two made jumpers, the travel call, and a missed three. The other four possessions were a White missed 3, a Smith missed one-and-one, a Peak layup, and a Copeland missed 3. On the other end we were not able to stop Utah during that stretch, fell behind by 9, and were reduced to intentionally fouling. Was wondering about DSR's physical state during the Utah game. Something was off. He shot no free throws at all in the game, which for him is very unusual and only scored 10 pts. With Bril injured and DSR off, there was no way we were going to beat Utah. If anyone hears anything about DSR, let us know. Hope he and Bril are both OK.
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Post by OldHoyafan on Mar 22, 2015 19:28:46 GMT -5
I feel those were two excellent posts however we have to focus on two years down the road. The need for a pass first point guard is critical and lacking. In two years, if we can retain our players, we could be a force with a brighter recruiting future. Exactly MG it’s a process.. Ike and the crew as Juniors, Govan and Crew as sophs, and a talented Freshman group is a team I would have very high expectations for These two posts sum up my feelings today. Bracey should be the staffs number one priority. The first in a line of true PG's in the future I hope. When you look at the teams still in the dance, all have that pg that can run the team, get his own shot when needed and play defense. Hopefully, Tre will assume this role next year and the experience he gained this year will be helpful. I am really looking forward to having a Hoya center who can play defense and score once again, it's been awhile. Watching the 6'7" kid play center for Butler last night, gives me great hope for Derrickson manning that spot at times for the HOYAS. He has the body to hold his position and he can hit the three like the Butler center. The pick and pop should be fun to watch. One other wish for White, Copeland, Cameron and Johnson, drive to the hoop with a passion like Jabril. You may get your shot blocked sometimes, but the pressure you put on the defense outweighs that occasional occurence. Now I am officially counting down the days until September when Bracey verbals to Georgetown.
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Post by drquigley on Mar 22, 2015 22:10:05 GMT -5
Just an update on what a jackass Doug Gottlied is. A few minutes ago, during the Maryland-W. Va game he actually said either of those two teams could give Kentucky a run. Maryland had already committed 18 turnovers and W. Va was still only up by 6. I think he just likes to hear himself talk.
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SFHoya99
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Post by SFHoya99 on Mar 22, 2015 22:15:25 GMT -5
Just an update on what a jackass Doug Gottlied is. A few minutes ago, during the Maryland-W. Va game he actually said either of those two teams could give Kentucky a run. Maryland had already committed 18 turnovers and W. Va was still only up by 6. I think he just likes to hear himself talk. "If you beat them, you're going to have to beat them." Okay. ETA: Maryland is going to have a hard timing beating Kentucky from College Park.
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CTHoya08
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Post by CTHoya08 on Mar 22, 2015 22:19:40 GMT -5
I don't like watching WVU win, but watching Maryland lose makes it worthwhile.
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