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Post by Cambridge on Jan 15, 2015 9:13:28 GMT -5
I'll give it a try! Thanks! So will I. It does sound good. I have this cookbook. Everything in it is great. I will try your adaptation.
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Post by cosmopolitanhoya on Jan 15, 2015 21:21:28 GMT -5
never said it was required - as a matter of fact, if you don't feel disappointed or frustrated by the results recently, you could have completely ignored my last sentence. for you to come back here to discredit any of what i said shows me further how mad you are at the current state, and i feel nothing but sorry for you. never did i say i don't appreciate the program. as i have said, i am thankful that we have a program in one of the big conferences. can we do better than the last 8 yrs or so? absolutely. are we seeing any pressure or changes toward the improvement? absolutely not. reason why threads like this emerges continuously is that the program is still stuck in the limbo, and many people here are not seeing any changes in the program for improvement. and the main reason is JT3, even if he has done a lot and continues to try to do so. Well, you said that if one gets angered by the reality of our recent tourney failures- which you clearly are, and suggest we all should be - you can either stop following the program, or accept the reality and have our Hoya Pride diminished. So you kinda did tell us how we are supposed to feel. And trying to claim that by responding to you I am somehow showing how angry I am with the program? Wow, now that is a desperate attempt to use circular logic to support your opinion! Please do not feel any need to feel sorry for me; I would like very much to see tourney success, but I have enough perspective not to harbor anger and bitterness about it, as you obviously do. Hopefully the recent recruiting improvements will help ease your pain. dunno why you keep trying to continue to put words into my mouth.... what makes you think i am angered by the recent tourney? i simply have responded to these types of threads that step from disappointment with the program by stating what is wrong and what the future deems. i told how you feel in case if you were disappointed/angered by the results. are you angered/disappointed by the results? if not, why do you keep comin back here to yelp something? it actually shows me that you are angry, or at least it makes me ASSUME that you are angry, because people like you keep comin back to shoot down any valid criticisms toward the program. harbor anger and bitterness? trust me, i am long over it. no matter how bad Hoyas play, which has been for quite a long time in the post-season, this is the school where i went, so that kinda goes with my life i guess. and i have realized, as i have clearly stated in my thread which you continue to twist them and put words into my mouth, is that JT3 and the program won't really change anytime soon. even if we continue to suck in the tourney, the knights with the shining armor around JT3, such as you, will continue to state that "then you want bring esherick BACK? rofl" ... like the coaching world in your mind is so black and white - it's either JT3 or some unproven/retarded coach who is ALWAYS GUARANTEED to be WORSE than him. maybe this freshman class may finally change that in about two years after a decade long drought in tourney success, but that is also a big IF, as the program was not able to carry the momentum after the final four season with better recruits than what we have right now. time will tell i guess.
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Post by tashoya on Jan 15, 2015 21:32:57 GMT -5
So will I. It does sound good. I have this cookbook. Everything in it is great. I will try your adaptation. Cambridge, I have the cookbook too and agree with your opinion. Everything I've tried has been really good and I'm no great talent in the kitchen. I wanted to post the one from the book but I didn't see it available in the public domain and thought that publishing the one from the book violated board rules. If that's not the case, I'm happy to post the original. I realize this isn't a recipe thread but, for those interested, the book is Into the Vietnamese Kitchen, by Andrea Nguyen. It's also in another of her books, Asian Dumplings, which is equally good.
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Post by tashoya on Jan 15, 2015 21:36:14 GMT -5
BTW, what is this "perspective" Frazier speaks of and where can I get some for myself?
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Post by FrazierFanatic on Jan 15, 2015 22:14:58 GMT -5
Well, you said that if one gets angered by the reality of our recent tourney failures- which you clearly are, and suggest we all should be - you can either stop following the program, or accept the reality and have our Hoya Pride diminished. So you kinda did tell us how we are supposed to feel. And trying to claim that by responding to you I am somehow showing how angry I am with the program? Wow, now that is a desperate attempt to use circular logic to support your opinion! Please do not feel any need to feel sorry for me; I would like very much to see tourney success, but I have enough perspective not to harbor anger and bitterness about it, as you obviously do. Hopefully the recent recruiting improvements will help ease your pain. dunno why you keep trying to continue to put words into my mouth.... what makes you think i am angered by the recent tourney? i simply have responded to these types of threads that step from disappointment with the program by stating what is wrong and what the future deems. i told how you feel in case if you were disappointed/angered by the results. are you angered/disappointed by the results? if not, why do you keep comin back here to yelp something? it actually shows me that you are angry, or at least it makes me ASSUME that you are angry, because people like you keep comin back to shoot down any valid criticisms toward the program. harbor anger and bitterness? trust me, i am long over it. no matter how bad Hoyas play, which has been for quite a long time in the post-season, this is the school where i went, so that kinda goes with my life i guess. and i have realized, as i have clearly stated in my thread which you continue to twist them and put words into my mouth, is that JT3 and the program won't really change anytime soon. even if we continue to suck in the tourney, the knights with the shining armor around JT3, such as you, will continue to state that "then you want bring esherick BACK? rofl" ... like the coaching world in your mind is so black and white - it's either JT3 or some unproven/retarded coach who is ALWAYS GUARANTEED to be WORSE than him. maybe this freshman class may finally change that in about two years after a decade long drought in tourney success, but that is also a big IF, as the program was not able to carry the momentum after the final four season with better recruits than what we have right now. time will tell i guess. Where to start, where to start. I have never, ever said that JTIII is not subject to criticism - nor that he could never be on the hot seat, as others have. I don't think we are there yet. I have never even suggested that no other coach could possibly be successful. By classifying anyone who disagrees with you as "knights in shining armor around JTIII" -hyperbole again - you just detract from the valid parts you make. I have agreed that our recent tournament performances are disappointing, and that we need to do better(by the way, since the 2008 loss was to a team that missed getting to the Final Four by just a few points, I don't really count that as a major failure, just a minor disappiintment- which makes our dry stretch 6 years, not quite the "decade long drought" you keep trying to claim). I just think that JTIII is our best chance to get there. You question whether that is the case. You are absolutely right about one thing - time will tell.
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Post by FLHoya on Jan 16, 2015 8:41:16 GMT -5
I'm in nj. Seriously, try this one: Char Siu Pork Adapted from Into the Vietnamese Kitchen: Treasured Foodways, Modern Flavors By Andrea Nguyen INGREDIENTS: 2 lbs. pork tenderloin, trimmed 3 cloves garlic, minced 1/2 tsp Chinese five-spice powder 3 tbsp hoisin 2 tbsp honey 1 1/2 tsp Shaoxing rice wine (can substitute dry sherry) 2 tbsp light soy sauce 1 tbsp tamari dark (black) soy sauce 2 tsp sesame oil Whisk together garlic, sugar, five-spice, hoisin, honey, rice wine, soy sauce, and sesame oil in a medium bowl. Pour marinade into a resealable plastic bag. Add pork tenderloin to bag, seal bag, and massage the meat to coat it evenly in the marinade. Place plastic bag inside a glass baking dish (so that you don't risk the bag springing a leak and leaking nasty, sticky pork juices all over the fridge) to marinate in the refrigerator. Marinate for 6-8 hours, turning pork over 2 or 3 times to ensure even marinating. Remove pork from refrigerator 45 minutes before cooking. Allow meat to come up to room temperature. Preheat oven to 475 degrees F. Place pork tenderloin in roasting pan (on rack in the top third of the oven), or in rimmed baking sheet lined with aluminum foil. Reserve marinade. Roast for approximately 30-35 minutes, basting with reserved marinade every approximately 10 minutes, using tongs to turn the meat while basting so that it is evenly basted and browned. Pork is done when an instant-read thermometer reads 150 degrees F. Remove pork from oven, and allow to rest on a cutting board for 10 minutes. Thinly slice pork and serve over rice or as part of a noodle dish. Edit: use trimmed pork shoulder or Boston butt (not a picnic shoulder). Turns out noticeably better. I don't understand why you couldn't have added Bradley Hayes to this recipe, even for a few minutes in the oven.
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Post by FLHoya on Jan 16, 2015 9:05:46 GMT -5
because people like you keep comin back to shoot down any valid criticisms toward the program. This doesn't seem too hard to comprehend. There are plenty of valid criticisms of the program. "We haven't made the second weekend of the NCAA Tournament since 2007" for instance is a valid critique, particularly when we've lost to five double-digit seeds in that time. I find the critiques of in-game strategy less compelling, personally, because they tend to be knee jerk reactions after a bad loss* and/or disprovable with references to recent history. That being said, sure, I'll listen to ideas about how the coach is inflexible with his offensive and defensive systems. Sometimes the same sets aren't going to work as well with Julian Vaughn or Josh Smith as they did with Greg Monroe. It's fair game, as long as you support your arguments. The underlying question, though, is whether these things rise to the level of calling for a coaches seat to be warm. I personally don't think so...honestly, I think it's the #firstworldproblems of basketball message boards. The big-ticket issue for me is making the NCAA Tournament, because that reflects success across an entire season and is a more reliable indicator of the structural strength of a program. So that's why my standard, as I noted before, is three years missing the NCAA Tournament before Generic Coach X's seat is warm**. What I wish would happen more though.....a lot of people complain in these threads about coach being stubborn, slow to adjust, about NCAA exits and such. But very few people take the next step and actually say, for instance, "We've been to five NCAAs since 2008 and never past the second round and I think that merits a coaching change/the coach's seat to be warm. That's why I actually suspect this whole thing is more about people trying to cope with losing to Providence (or w/e the next team is we think we should've beat) than an actual conversation about a coach's job security. (*Like the first post in this thread: "Today was one of the worst in-game coaching performances I've ever seen.") (**Darnit, I could've stopped Maryland's renaissance. Turgeon's only been to one NIT in three years.)
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Post by SSHoya on Jan 16, 2015 9:24:11 GMT -5
I'm in nj. Seriously, try this one: Char Siu Pork Adapted from Into the Vietnamese Kitchen: Treasured Foodways, Modern Flavors By Andrea Nguyen INGREDIENTS: 2 lbs. pork tenderloin, trimmed 3 cloves garlic, minced 1/2 tsp Chinese five-spice powder 3 tbsp hoisin 2 tbsp honey 1 1/2 tsp Shaoxing rice wine (can substitute dry sherry) 2 tbsp light soy sauce 1 tbsp tamari dark (black) soy sauce 2 tsp sesame oil Whisk together garlic, sugar, five-spice, hoisin, honey, rice wine, soy sauce, and sesame oil in a medium bowl. Pour marinade into a resealable plastic bag. Add pork tenderloin to bag, seal bag, and massage the meat to coat it evenly in the marinade. Place plastic bag inside a glass baking dish (so that you don't risk the bag springing a leak and leaking nasty, sticky pork juices all over the fridge) to marinate in the refrigerator. Marinate for 6-8 hours, turning pork over 2 or 3 times to ensure even marinating. Remove pork from refrigerator 45 minutes before cooking. Allow meat to come up to room temperature. Preheat oven to 475 degrees F. Place pork tenderloin in roasting pan (on rack in the top third of the oven), or in rimmed baking sheet lined with aluminum foil. Reserve marinade. Roast for approximately 30-35 minutes, basting with reserved marinade every approximately 10 minutes, using tongs to turn the meat while basting so that it is evenly basted and browned. Pork is done when an instant-read thermometer reads 150 degrees F. Remove pork from oven, and allow to rest on a cutting board for 10 minutes. Thinly slice pork and serve over rice or as part of a noodle dish. Edit: use trimmed pork shoulder or Boston butt (not a picnic shoulder). Turns out noticeably better. I don't understand why you couldn't have added Bradley Hayes to this recipe, even for a few minutes in the oven. Char Siu | Chinese BBQ Pork 叉燒 It's really Chinese but it has migrated to Southeast Asia via the Chinese disaspora, the Hoa. My uncle roasted his own pork by removing all the bottom racks in his oven and hanging pork butts or shoulders (as mentioned, avoid tenderloin) from the top rack instead of using a roasting pan. The higher fat content gives the finished product better flavor. Good eats! Hoa (Chinese people) refers to a minority group living in Vietnam consisting of persons considered ethnic Chinese ("Overseas Chinese").
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Post by guru on Jan 16, 2015 9:51:05 GMT -5
I'm in nj. Seriously, try this one: Char Siu Pork Adapted from Into the Vietnamese Kitchen: Treasured Foodways, Modern Flavors By Andrea Nguyen INGREDIENTS: 2 lbs. pork tenderloin, trimmed 3 cloves garlic, minced 1/2 tsp Chinese five-spice powder 3 tbsp hoisin 2 tbsp honey 1 1/2 tsp Shaoxing rice wine (can substitute dry sherry) 2 tbsp light soy sauce 1 tbsp tamari dark (black) soy sauce 2 tsp sesame oil Whisk together garlic, sugar, five-spice, hoisin, honey, rice wine, soy sauce, and sesame oil in a medium bowl. Pour marinade into a resealable plastic bag. Add pork tenderloin to bag, seal bag, and massage the meat to coat it evenly in the marinade. Place plastic bag inside a glass baking dish (so that you don't risk the bag springing a leak and leaking nasty, sticky pork juices all over the fridge) to marinate in the refrigerator. Marinate for 6-8 hours, turning pork over 2 or 3 times to ensure even marinating. Remove pork from refrigerator 45 minutes before cooking. Allow meat to come up to room temperature. Preheat oven to 475 degrees F. Place pork tenderloin in roasting pan (on rack in the top third of the oven), or in rimmed baking sheet lined with aluminum foil. Reserve marinade. Roast for approximately 30-35 minutes, basting with reserved marinade every approximately 10 minutes, using tongs to turn the meat while basting so that it is evenly basted and browned. Pork is done when an instant-read thermometer reads 150 degrees F. Remove pork from oven, and allow to rest on a cutting board for 10 minutes. Thinly slice pork and serve over rice or as part of a noodle dish. Edit: use trimmed pork shoulder or Boston butt (not a picnic shoulder). Turns out noticeably better. I don't understand why you couldn't have added Bradley Hayes to this recipe, even for a few minutes in the oven. *crickets* "IS THIS THING ON?"
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Post by njhoya78 on Jan 16, 2015 10:54:23 GMT -5
I'm not sure anyone is quite certain how to respond.
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Post by Filo on Jan 16, 2015 12:38:59 GMT -5
I am always amazed how there are certain posters who consistently and almost-always post things that I completely and utterly disagree with. I have come to believe that there is some all-knowing being out there with a great sense of humor who has said, "OK I know exactly what Filo is thinking, so let's create posters X, Y and Z, and let's have them post every so often to see how long it will be before Filo's head explodes." Well, all-knowing being, the joke is on you. I am not taking the bait.
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Post by cosmopolitanhoya on Jan 16, 2015 13:04:59 GMT -5
dunno why you keep trying to continue to put words into my mouth.... what makes you think i am angered by the recent tourney? i simply have responded to these types of threads that step from disappointment with the program by stating what is wrong and what the future deems. i told how you feel in case if you were disappointed/angered by the results. are you angered/disappointed by the results? if not, why do you keep comin back here to yelp something? it actually shows me that you are angry, or at least it makes me ASSUME that you are angry, because people like you keep comin back to shoot down any valid criticisms toward the program. harbor anger and bitterness? trust me, i am long over it. no matter how bad Hoyas play, which has been for quite a long time in the post-season, this is the school where i went, so that kinda goes with my life i guess. and i have realized, as i have clearly stated in my thread which you continue to twist them and put words into my mouth, is that JT3 and the program won't really change anytime soon. even if we continue to suck in the tourney, the knights with the shining armor around JT3, such as you, will continue to state that "then you want bring esherick BACK? rofl" ... like the coaching world in your mind is so black and white - it's either JT3 or some unproven/retarded coach who is ALWAYS GUARANTEED to be WORSE than him. maybe this freshman class may finally change that in about two years after a decade long drought in tourney success, but that is also a big IF, as the program was not able to carry the momentum after the final four season with better recruits than what we have right now. time will tell i guess. Where to start, where to start. I have never, ever said that JTIII is not subject to criticism - nor that he could never be on the hot seat, as others have. I don't think we are there yet. I have never even suggested that no other coach could possibly be successful. By classifying anyone who disagrees with you as "knights in shining armor around JTIII" -hyperbole again - you just detract from the valid parts you make. I have agreed that our recent tournament performances are disappointing, and that we need to do better(by the way, since the 2008 loss was to a team that missed getting to the Final Four by just a few points, I don't really count that as a major failure, just a minor disappiintment- which makes our dry stretch 6 years, not quite the "decade long drought" you keep trying to claim). I just think that JTIII is our best chance to get there. You question whether that is the case. You are absolutely right about one thing - time will tell. fair enough. it just irritates me or others here, however, that everyone including JT3 knows that he has the job security regardless of his performances. He got a raise after getting into Final Four, with Pops threatening that his son will leave if he does not get the reward for his achievement, which he definitely deserved it. In spite of the program's ensuing underperformance, however, he still got the extension last year, and I wish there is some sort of paycut or a sign of warning that he needs to do a better job instead of only getting praises from the administration or fans defending JT3. Reality is that JT3's seat is not warm at all, and it will never get warm no matter what happens. But some people here want the seat to get warm so that he makes improvements to get us back into the glories of 80s to mid 90s, when we were once considered elite.
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Post by Locker on Jan 16, 2015 13:10:57 GMT -5
The mid 90s? As fun as 1996 was, I had a much better time in both 2006 and 2007. Most fun two seasons of my 25 years as a Georgetown fan. Still grateful to JT3 for them.
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Post by cheer48 on Jan 16, 2015 13:11:10 GMT -5
speaking only for my self, I have a contract in my jacket pocket for JT3, a ten year contract with an ad infinitum option to be filled in by him and barring only a totally disabling health condition, but allowing crutches wheel chair and possibly a stretcher on court......nothing like a bit of faith in a caoch Hoyas
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Post by TC on Jan 16, 2015 13:22:41 GMT -5
Reality is that JT3's seat is not warm at all, and it will never get warm no matter what happens. But some people here want the seat to get warm so that he makes improvements to get us back into the glories of 80s to mid 90s, when we were once considered elite. Here's part of the problem - you don't know the program's history. When were we "elite" in the mid-90s? The JT3 years have been A LOT more successful than any set or subset of the 90's years, where aside from 1995-1996, we were a perennial NCAA bubble or NIT team until things fell apart post-Victor Page. I'll go the other direction here - we don't know that the program will survive post-Thompson era. We just don't. The program has no modern history outside of the Thompsons, and I think people talking how this program is bigger than JT2/JT3 really underrate the possibility that one bad coach could destroy the entire program. I remember the conversations in 2004, where the perception was that we were now at the Seton Hall/Providence level and the arguments that we should deemphasize basketball like Holy Cross. These really are the good days and people should appreciate them while we are in them. This is not Kentucky or Kansas - one scandal could wipe the program from the map the way WGTB was.
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Post by prhoya on Jan 16, 2015 13:24:53 GMT -5
speaking only for my self, I have a contract in my jacket pocket for JT3, a ten year contract with an ad infinitum option to be filled in by him and barring only a totally disabling health condition, but allowing crutches wheel chair and possibly a stretcher on court......nothing like a bit of faith in a caoch Hoyas And then he needs an uber loyal assistant coach he will have carried all his coaching life so that when he abruptly retires, said assistant coach can cover the four or five years it will take for JT4 to be the head coach because God forbid that a coach with a different last name occupy the office in the Thompson Athletic Center! Hey, at least he will have won our 2nd National Championship. (insert your favorite sarcasm icon here).
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Post by njhoya78 on Jan 16, 2015 13:25:35 GMT -5
You cannot possibly believe that the basketball landscape in 2015 is the same as the basketball landscape in 1995 (or, if you want to take a real stroll down memory lane, go back to 1985 and the days of games at Capital Centre). The amount of money betting thrown around through the explosion of television coverage of live sporting events has altered sports irrevocably. Large schools with football programs will belly up to the feeding trough and leave only after they have been satiated. To be able to compete, at all, under that framework is nothing short of remarkable.
Take a step back and take a good, hard look at the reality of college sports today. We are fortunate to have a program that has earned a seat at the table, and that is due to Big John and JT3. Do we get frustrated by losses? Yes, as alumni and as fans. Remember, but for the grace of Dave Gavitt's foresight, our basketball program could well be looking forward to home games with Holy Cross, St. Peter's and Stonehill.
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Post by cosmopolitanhoya on Jan 16, 2015 13:39:44 GMT -5
Reality is that JT3's seat is not warm at all, and it will never get warm no matter what happens. But some people here want the seat to get warm so that he makes improvements to get us back into the glories of 80s to mid 90s, when we were once considered elite. Here's part of the problem - you don't know the program's history. When were we "elite" in the mid-90s? The JT3 years have been A LOT more successful than any set or subset of the 90's years, where aside from 1995-1996, we were a perennial NCAA bubble or NIT team until things fell apart post-Victor Page. I'll go the other direction here - we don't know that the program will survive post-Thompson era. We just don't. The program has no modern history outside of the Thompsons, and I think people talking how this program is bigger than JT2/JT3 really underrate the possibility that one bad coach could destroy the entire program. I remember the conversations in 2004, where the perception was that we were now at the Seton Hall/Providence level and the arguments that we should deemphasize basketball like Holy Cross. These really are the good days and people should appreciate them while we are in them. This is not Kentucky or Kansas - one scandal could wipe the program from the map the way WGTB was. i know the history, but the early 90s also produced two NBA hall of famers in spite of bad seasons - so i kinda counted them in as us being "elite" you are right that no one knows what the post-thompson era would look like. it could be worse, or it could be better. but i think you are underestimating the tradition that is built here and the pipeline of good local players around the DMV area. aside from having bad facilities, which might have been solved by the opening of the new court, i do think a lot of good coaches would want to come here.
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Post by aleutianhoya on Jan 16, 2015 13:40:50 GMT -5
Where to start, where to start. I have never, ever said that JTIII is not subject to criticism - nor that he could never be on the hot seat, as others have. I don't think we are there yet. I have never even suggested that no other coach could possibly be successful. By classifying anyone who disagrees with you as "knights in shining armor around JTIII" -hyperbole again - you just detract from the valid parts you make. I have agreed that our recent tournament performances are disappointing, and that we need to do better(by the way, since the 2008 loss was to a team that missed getting to the Final Four by just a few points, I don't really count that as a major failure, just a minor disappiintment- which makes our dry stretch 6 years, not quite the "decade long drought" you keep trying to claim). I just think that JTIII is our best chance to get there. You question whether that is the case. You are absolutely right about one thing - time will tell. In spite of the program's ensuing underperformance, however, he still got the extension last year, and I wish there is some sort of paycut or a sign of warning that he needs to do a better job instead of only getting praises from the administration or fans defending JT3. A paycut? No extension? Collegiate athletics simply doesn't work that way. With precious few exceptions, every coach in america is under contract for at least four years (ostensibly to reassure recruits), and pay goes only in one direction. Call the whole thing absurd -- I won't argue -- but to suggest that Georgetown act entirely against the grain in this specific regard is absurd.
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Post by professorhoya on Jan 16, 2015 13:49:25 GMT -5
Here's part of the problem - you don't know the program's history. When were we "elite" in the mid-90s? The JT3 years have been A LOT more successful than any set or subset of the 90's years, where aside from 1995-1996, we were a perennial NCAA bubble or NIT team until things fell apart post-Victor Page. I'll go the other direction here - we don't know that the program will survive post-Thompson era. We just don't. The program has no modern history outside of the Thompsons, and I think people talking how this program is bigger than JT2/JT3 really underrate the possibility that one bad coach could destroy the entire program. I remember the conversations in 2004, where the perception was that we were now at the Seton Hall/Providence level and the arguments that we should deemphasize basketball like Holy Cross. These really are the good days and people should appreciate them while we are in them. This is not Kentucky or Kansas - one scandal could wipe the program from the map the way WGTB was. i know the history, but the early 90s also produced two NBA hall of famers in spite of bad seasons - so i kinda counted them in as us being "elite" you are right that no one knows what the post-thompson era would look like. it could be worse, or it could be better. but i think you are underestimating the tradition that is built here and the pipeline of good local players around the DMV area. aside from having bad facilities, which might have been solved by the opening of the new court, i do think a lot of good coaches would want to come here. One of the main problem is that if you run the Thompsons out of town, the Hoyas NBA alumni will likely turn their backs on the program. You would be naive if you didn't think that Ewing, Mutombo, Alozno and down the line will distance themselves from the program. The tradition is built on the Thompsons and the quality players they produced. Without that you really have nothing in terms of tradition. Even the pipleline in the DMV is connected to the Thompsons good will with coaches or former players like Dwayne Bryant at Georgetown Prep. It would be arrogant to think that you could throw all that away and start from scratch to create a successful program given the limitations that come with being a small school.
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