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Post by augustusfinknottle on Feb 18, 2015 20:52:02 GMT -5
The point was he strikes one as rather contrary by nature. But, then, he comes by that honestly.
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Post by strummer8526 on Feb 18, 2015 21:32:24 GMT -5
The point was he strikes one as rather contrary by nature. But, then, he comes by that honestly. What's your problem, guy?
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Post by FrazierFanatic on Feb 20, 2015 12:31:32 GMT -5
Contrary? That is simply inane. He is somewhat reserved by nature, but he is also quite straightforward in discussions and respectful in press conferences.
Most coaches will answer that there are no real "freshmen" at this point. They will also discuss the developments of individual players - although being coaches, they tend to focus on the things that still need to be improved. The fact that he actually explains things, and does not spit out stock phrases for replies, should not be the basis for any criticism.
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Post by tashoya on Feb 20, 2015 13:46:51 GMT -5
The point was he strikes one as rather contrary by nature. But, then, he comes by that honestly. I know it's your "point" but, no, the point wasn't that he strikes one as rather contrary by nature. It's that he strikes you as rather contrary by nature. I was simply pointing out that you didn't make your "point" at all.
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Post by professorhoya on Feb 20, 2015 14:21:20 GMT -5
The point was he strikes one as rather contrary by nature. But, then, he comes by that honestly. What's your problem, guy? I don't think he means any harm by it. Some of what augustusfinnottle says is true but then again he has a much better eye for these things as he has been interviewing prospective Georgetown students for 45 years. However, I will say that you need to control the press rather then let the press control you (which is what IIII is doing) and the press is an altogether different beast than a prospective student.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 20, 2015 15:06:18 GMT -5
I've noticed some of these responses too. I don't think it's a major criticism - just something he does.
Even after St Johns...
Raft : Coach, before the game you told Gus and I "we're running a little better and our defense is getting better". I think you proved that tonight. JT3 : I'm not sure about the running part...
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Post by NCHoya on Feb 20, 2015 15:39:02 GMT -5
I have definitely noticed III correcting the questioner on many occasions. I do not think he is trying to be a contrarian, I think it is a typical coach wanting to be in control. He wants to control the narrative and make sure his message is the one that gets heard. It is probably a good thing in many ways, but I am sure it annoys the heck out of the interviewers.
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Post by Ranch Dressing on Feb 20, 2015 17:23:10 GMT -5
I think after a winning game, interviewers tend to point out things that the team did well. Coach strikes me as someone who is never satisfied with the status quo. So his responses back to these post-game compliments usually deflect from the positive and focus on areas in which the team still needs to improve.
I can see why some see this as contrarian in nature. I see it more as a coach who rarely allows his players to be satisfied with their current level of play and focuses them on always trying to get better.
Beyond this, I think he comes off as a nervous personality on camera many times post-game.
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Post by FrazierFanatic on Feb 20, 2015 17:54:09 GMT -5
I've noticed some of these responses too. I don't think it's a major criticism - just something he does. Even after St Johns... Raft : Coach, before the game you told Gus and I "we're running a little better and our defense is getting better". I think you proved that tonight. JT3 : I'm not sure about the running part... Again - he wasn't asked a question. RAF essentially said "here is what I see"; III responds "I don't quite see it the same".
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Post by prhoya on Feb 21, 2015 8:58:04 GMT -5
From today's WPost: “Okay, great,” Thompson said when told about the potential to clinch a bye. “This isn’t just me trying to shut you up, but really, we’re not looking at any of that. We’re playing a team that’s probably going to come in here pretty fired up to play. We’re playing a team that as their start of league play showed can beat anyone in this league. We’re worried, focused on them.”
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Post by prhoya on Feb 21, 2015 10:51:51 GMT -5
At any point now I'm expecting JT3 to answer with: "Whatever" "That's a stupid question." "What game were you watching?" "Can I let Pops answer these questions?" "Who gave you that media crededential? He's fired."
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Post by SirSaxa on Feb 21, 2015 11:04:22 GMT -5
At any point now I'm expecting JT3 to answer with: "Whatever" "That's a stupid question." "What game were you watching?" "Can I let Pops answer these questions?" "Who gave you that media crededential? He's fired." and the ever popular: "Playoffs?!?! you talking about Playoffs??? Playoffs?!?! You kiddin me?!?!
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Post by prhoya on Feb 21, 2015 18:07:33 GMT -5
From today's CSN: "It's not like going into that first contest I sat there and thought, "Ahhh, I think we have advantage in this spot with Isaac,'" coach John Thompson III said following Friday's practice.
DUH! Stupid question. Next.
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Post by smokeyjack on Feb 23, 2015 9:14:17 GMT -5
I was heartened by the fact that JT3 seemed truly disappointed in Saturday night's performance in his postgame, lamenting the myriad unforced TOs instead of saying, 'Hey, that's not your typical Depaul team.'
That was a truly abominable defensive performance against a team that only has one player who would ever see minutes for the Hoyas if you gave us the pick of their roster. That was not a performance to celebrate by any stretch, and to his credit 3 seemed genuinely perplexed by it.
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Post by hoyainspirit on Feb 23, 2015 10:05:53 GMT -5
While not our best, that defensive performance was far from abominable.
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Post by Ranch Dressing on Feb 23, 2015 11:41:37 GMT -5
One fairly random dude caught fire from 3 and hit 5 of them; a few wide open, but a few contested well. The rest of our defense was pretty strong.
More concerning, perhaps, were the mistakes on offense and not valuing possessions/ball control enough.
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Post by hoyatmf on Feb 24, 2015 11:56:31 GMT -5
Some of the post here are patently ridiculous. i don't think any coach gets a free pass, but it also ignores history. Everyone realizes that after Patrick Ewing graduated, many of Big John's team underachieved including the Mourning/Mutombo and Iverson teams. By his final season, my freshman year, i9t was clear he was done.
The five losses to double digit seeds is frustrating, but context surely matters. Steph Curry is about to win the NBA MVP. That loss to Davidson was frustrating, but he was BY FAR the best player on the court. And as someone previously mentioned the VCU (final four team) and NC State (underrated) games were not terrible losses. Ohio and FGCU were TERRIBLE, but that's pretty much it.
This is the other thing people seem to be forgetting ... the reason why expectations have been frustrated is because JTIII exceeds expectations in the regular season. No one expected us to win the Big East or earn a 2 seed in Otto's final year. That was basically a two and a half person team with a starting front court that provided NO offense. No one expected that the year prior would produce a three seed in the tournament. That was largely due to JTIII's coaching and Otto's singular talent.
I assume there is a point where JTIII's seat could get warm, but we are not anywhere close to that right now. This team is performing well, but is inconsistent. There are several reasons for that:
1. We rely on freshman for a lot minutes. We have depth but three of our top 8 guys are freshmen. While talented, they aren't talented enough to just run over people. 2. We have one high level/elite scorer. Josh is great and a match-up nightmare, but DSR is our go to guy and everyone knows it. Last year we were less talented overall, but we had more talent at the top. We'll see if Ike can become that second dynamic scorer. Coach deserves credit for starting Ike and giving him the run to develop. 3. We don't shoot free throws well. Not sure what can do about that.
Finally, we all know that NCAA performance is flukey. We went to a Sweet 16 in 2001 off the strength of a buzzer beater and Hampton's upset of Iowa State. It was a lot more good luck that coaching. The losses at the end of the season have hurt and a run this yer would be awesome, but JTIII has done an admirable job at developing talent and exceeding expectations over the course of the whole season.
Looking back the only teams that really underachieved based on pre-season expectations were the 2008 team and the Ohio debacle. And like others, I challenge posters who think we should consider getting rid of or putting more pressure on JTIII at this point to name a gettable coach who would perform better on and off the court.
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Post by hoyasaxa2003 on Mar 16, 2015 22:05:49 GMT -5
I have no idea what will happen this week, but I think it's noteworthy that in 11 seasons under JTIII, Georgetown has made the NCAA tournament 9 times. 6 of those 9 times Georgetown has been a 4 seed or better. Regardless of the outcomes in the tournament, that's an excellent record of success. It would have been unthinkable in 2004 when Esherick left the program.
Hopefully, this is the year where that carries over into winning tournament games.
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Post by sleepy on Mar 16, 2015 22:12:30 GMT -5
I have no idea what will happen this week, but I think it's noteworthy that in 11 seasons under JTIII, Georgetown has made the NCAA tournament 9 times. 6 of those 9 times Georgetown has been a 4 seed or better. Regardless of the outcomes in the tournament, that's an excellent record of success. It would have been unthinkable in 2004 when Esherick left the program. Hopefully, this is the year where that carries over into winning tournament games. So what you're really saying is... his seat should be warm if we lose on Thursday? I can read between the lines.
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Post by WVHoyasfan on Mar 16, 2015 22:46:46 GMT -5
After all the let downs his teams have had in the NCAA tourney yes his seat should be real hot.Lets be honest if this happened to any other team then their coachs would have been on their way out.Yes JT3 teams have great regular season records but playing great in the regular season doesn't win you national titles.Its time to realize that maybe JT3 may not can get it done for us.Yes I know many posters on here don't want to read this but its facts guys.I love my Hoyas as much as you all do and frankly I am tired of watching good teams lose in the 1st and 2nd rds every year.
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