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Post by Cambridge on Nov 19, 2014 9:38:24 GMT -5
Not that San Francisco would ever have this problem but to be fair, it's extremely cold today. One of the coldest days so far this fall. Apparently you haven't been to mid-summer Giants games...coldest days of my life.
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Post by hoyasaxa18 on Nov 19, 2014 10:01:12 GMT -5
I don't think Josh Smith is getting nearly enough credit for his performance. To put this in perspective: The last time Josh grabbed double-digit rebounds in a game? December 17, 2011 against UC Davis in his sophomore year at UCLA The last time Josh had seven or more rebounds in a game? February 11, 2012 against Stanford, again in his sophomore year at UCLA The last time Josh had 20 and 10 in a game? NEVER.
Josh was engaged and dominating throughout the game, and if he brings this type of energy all year, I think he could have a major impact for this team.
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Post by seaweed on Nov 19, 2014 10:35:47 GMT -5
Hopkins has the softest hands I have ever seen on a big man - mi flight turbulence is enough to strip him.
Campbell should be starting so DSR can go back to playing his way.
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Post by EasyEd on Nov 19, 2014 10:36:13 GMT -5
For those complaining about the size of the crowd, seems like the same can be said of HoyaTalk. Very small number of entries for a Hoya game.
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Post by EasyEd on Nov 19, 2014 10:55:50 GMT -5
My biggest surprise this year is that, in the rotation, Tre Campbell appears to be ahead of Ike and Paul. JTIII has said Tre was ahead of what he expected and his performance seems to back that up.
Also, I have never been a big fan of Aaron Bowen but I'm almost ready to jump on his bandwagon.
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Post by jwp91 on Nov 19, 2014 10:56:24 GMT -5
Campbell should be starting so DSR can go back to playing his way. So who are you going to take out...Peak or Trawick? I think your line-up is an option, but I like the current starting line-up is better.
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Post by njhoya78 on Nov 19, 2014 10:58:36 GMT -5
Valid point by EasyEd. I think the lack of comments is due, to a significant degree, to the inability of a number of HoyaTalk posters to actually see the game live because of the inaccessibility of Fox Sports 2 on their local cable outlets. Maybe that is the functional equivalent of a cold night.
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Post by njhoya78 on Nov 19, 2014 10:59:32 GMT -5
Campbell should be starting so DSR can go back to playing his way. So who are you going to take out...Peak or Trawick? I think your line-up is an option, but I like the current starting line-up is better. What's the saying. . .it doesn't matter who starts, but who finishes?
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Post by HoyaSinceBirth on Nov 19, 2014 11:00:43 GMT -5
For those complaining about the size of the crowd, seems like the same can be said of HoyaTalk. Very small number of entries for a Hoya game. We won and board whipping boys Joshua and Mikael had good games. I'm sure most of our fan base is very disappointed with our teams result last night as a result.
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Post by HometownHoya on Nov 19, 2014 11:14:15 GMT -5
I don't think Josh Smith is getting nearly enough credit for his performance. To put this in perspective: The last time Josh grabbed double-digit rebounds in a game? December 17, 2011 against UC Davis in his sophomore year at UCLA The last time Josh had seven or more rebounds in a game? February 11, 2012 against Stanford, again in his sophomore year at UCLA The last time Josh had 20 and 10 in a game? NEVER. Josh was engaged and dominating throughout the game, and if he brings this type of energy all year, I think he could have a major impact for this team. I agree. Maybe no one is talking about him because this is what we all hoped for. If he brings this type of energy all year he could have a major impact on the national scene. It definitely seems like JTIII told him that if he wants points he has to go get them by cleaning off the glass. Plus the better he played on both ends, you could see his energy levels rise. I actually think JTIII may have told the whole team that if they want points they have to go get them. Just about everyone has been more aggressive and looking for shots.
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Post by calhoya on Nov 19, 2014 11:25:21 GMT -5
A day after and still smiling. JT III is using a 10-11 person rotation in the early season games and allowing some of the players deep on the bench to play minutes that are relevant,while the game is still close. Never expected the coach to use 9-10 players in a close BE game but have been frustrated for years watching developing players not to get significant minutes in the pre-conference games. Looking at 10 players in the first half of these games will provide benefits come February when an injury or foul trouble necessitates using the 9-10 players in the rotation for significant playng time. Also the team is playing fast and mixing and matching lineups to find combinations that work. Keep it up.
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Post by hoyainspirit on Nov 19, 2014 11:32:39 GMT -5
Am I remembering correctly that people thought Willis Wilson was a hot name to replace Esherick back in 2005? I guess he would have been a better choice than Bobby Gonzalez, but it sure seems like Frank Rienzo and Jim Higgins did pretty well to separate the wheat from the chaff. From what I've read, Wilson has done a nice job turning things around at CC. We wore them down, but they looked well coached from my one game observation. That said, III is the man for us, no doubt.
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Post by hoyainspirit on Nov 19, 2014 11:46:18 GMT -5
My biggest surprise this year is that, in the rotation, Tre Campbell appears to be ahead of Ike and Paul. JTIII has said Tre was ahead of what he expected and his performance seems to back that up. Also, I have never been a big fan of Aaron Bowen but I'm almost ready to jump on his bandwagon. In both games, Ike was the first person off the bench, but I like the fact that Tre seems to be able to give us 12 to 15 solid mins a game.
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Post by professorhoya on Nov 19, 2014 12:07:21 GMT -5
So who are you going to take out...Peak or Trawick? I think your line-up is an option, but I like the current starting line-up is better. What's the saying. . .it doesn't matter who starts, but who finishes? It is problematic though because if you play DSR major mintues at the 2 then you have to slash the minutes of Peak/Trawick/Bowen. So the ideal situation is DSR at the 1 this year.
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Post by jwp91 on Nov 19, 2014 12:25:04 GMT -5
How about that line-up of Trawick, Peak, Bowen, Hop and Smith?
I wasn't expecting that...
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Post by EtomicB on Nov 19, 2014 12:56:02 GMT -5
What's the saying. . .it doesn't matter who starts, but who finishes? It is problematic though because if you play DSR major mintues at the 2 then you have to slash the minutes of Peak/Trawick/Bowen. So the ideal situation is DSR at the 1 this year. I don't agree... Just allow Tray & Tre to handle the lead ball handling duties and allow DSR to play the same role as last year.. There will still be plenty of time for Jabril & Peak to get 28+ minutes per game & Bowen could get 15 or so.. It's still very early but DSR doesn't look comfortable in this role at all..
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Post by sleepy on Nov 19, 2014 13:01:57 GMT -5
It is problematic though because if you play DSR major mintues at the 2 then you have to slash the minutes of Peak/Trawick/Bowen. So the ideal situation is DSR at the 1 this year. I don't agree... Just allow Tray & Tre to handle the lead ball handling duties and allow DSR to play the same role as last year.. There will still be plenty of time for Jabril & Peak to get 28+ minutes per game & Bowen could get 15 or so.. It's still very early but DSR doesn't look comfortable in this role at all.. It's going to be an adjustment. But I think him being comfortable at the 1 is whats best for both us and him long term so I think giving him more than two games to adjust before talking about scrapping it would be wise. Really I think its more mental, he really doesn't actually have to do THAT much differently than he did last year. I think he just needs to relax and play instead of think so much. He will figure it out, I'm confident.
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Post by EtomicB on Nov 19, 2014 13:48:39 GMT -5
I don't agree... Just allow Tray & Tre to handle the lead ball handling duties and allow DSR to play the same role as last year.. There will still be plenty of time for Jabril & Peak to get 28+ minutes per game & Bowen could get 15 or so.. It's still very early but DSR doesn't look comfortable in this role at all.. It's going to be an adjustment. But I think him being comfortable at the 1 is whats best for both us and him long term so I think giving him more than two games to adjust before talking about scrapping it would be wise. Really I think its more mental, he really doesn't actually have to do THAT much differently than he did last year. I think he just needs to relax and play instead of think so much. He will figure it out, I'm confident. Why is it best Sleepy? I have no problem with letting it play out longer but I've never understood why folks think this is best for the team..
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Post by sleepy on Nov 19, 2014 14:03:04 GMT -5
It's going to be an adjustment. But I think him being comfortable at the 1 is whats best for both us and him long term so I think giving him more than two games to adjust before talking about scrapping it would be wise. Really I think its more mental, he really doesn't actually have to do THAT much differently than he did last year. I think he just needs to relax and play instead of think so much. He will figure it out, I'm confident. Why is it best Sleepy? I have no problem with letting it play out longer but I've never understood why folks think this is best for the team.. I should say it's the second best option for the team behind Tre Campbell being able to take over as the point and replace Trawick or Peak in the starting line up/Starters minutes. As I don't see that happening this season, DSR at the 1, don't see him as an actual point guard this year, is our best bet. Why? 1) He is the best option out of our starting guards 2) It gives us additional height in the backcourt which will help when we have to start playing more zone 3) I think DSR will actually become a better basketball once he gets used to controlling the offense a bit more than last year which will obviously help us. Now I don't think DSR at the 1 is a GREAT option but it's our best current option and I think it's far to early to give up on it and him. Once he figures out is role at the 1 spot, and I don't think it's going to be a traditional point guard role at all, I think it will really pay off. We just need to be a little more patient.
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Post by EtomicB on Nov 19, 2014 14:48:46 GMT -5
Why is it best Sleepy? I have no problem with letting it play out longer but I've never understood why folks think this is best for the team.. I should say it's the second best option for the team behind Tre Campbell being able to take over as the point and replace Trawick or Peak in the starting line up/Starters minutes. As I don't see that happening this season, DSR at the 1, don't see him as an actual point guard this year, is our best bet. Why? 1) He is the best option out of our starting guards 2) It gives us additional height in the backcourt which will help when we have to start playing more zone 3) I think DSR will actually become a better basketball once he gets used to controlling the offense a bit more than last year which will obviously help us. Now I don't think DSR at the 1 is a GREAT option but it's our best current option and I think it's far to early to give up on it and him. Once he figures out is role at the 1 spot, and I don't think it's going to be a traditional point guard role at all, I think it will really pay off. We just need to be a little more patient. Why is DSR better than Jabril exactly? Even if we say he is a better option as the lead man, if we ask who's a better option as an off guard the answer would be DSR and by a wider margin than Jabril is better than him as a lead guard.. I guess my point is DSR had a good freshman year playing off the ball and he had a great sophomore year playing off the ball so why screw with the program? The lineup doesn't have to change one bit imo.. I'd still start Jabril & Peak so the same "heigh/length" will be on the court.. Again, I have no issues with letting it play out longer and I will admit that I didn't see the St. Francis game..
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