ShimmyJr
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Post by ShimmyJr on Apr 8, 2005 16:29:37 GMT -5
I've been trying to figure out the last part of your statement for the last 10 minutes...it seems like some sort of paradox or a riddle or a redundancy, but I can't quite put my finger on it. If you are talking about "Dirty Jerz" it is a just a nickname for NJ straight out of Elizabeth, NJ, ShimmyJr
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Joe Hoya
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Post by Joe Hoya on Apr 8, 2005 16:36:07 GMT -5
I think he was referring to unnecessary redundant addition of the adjective "dirty". Relax, I spend a lot of time at the Jersey shore over the summer, so I mean no harm. This has been an official decree from the Office of the President of the Premier Level of Douchitude
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Post by jerseyhoya34 on Apr 8, 2005 16:38:45 GMT -5
I think he was referring to unnecessary redundant addition of the adjective "dirty". Relax, I spend a lot of time at the Jersey shore over the summer, so I mean no harm. This has been an official decree from the Office of the President of the Premier Level of DouchitudeSome parts of the Jersey Shore epitomize dirty, so I am not surprised by the reference at all. Other parts of NJ show why it is the Garden State. This has been a point of Parliamentary qualification directed to the Office of the President of the Premier Level of Douchitude
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SFHoya99
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Post by SFHoya99 on Apr 8, 2005 16:42:45 GMT -5
I see it being hierarchical in structure 1. President (1) 2. Board (5) 3. Dorm Capts, Board members staff (10 Capts, 1-2 staffers per board guy) 4. Floor Leaders, general volunteers (a lot of people) Obviously each board member is going to need some help to do their job. Gotta love hierarchies, even if they don't work well. why don't you guys just assign military or governmental ranks and get it over with? On a serious note, you folks that are still in school should listen to the oldies like Cambridge and others -- real world experience in invaluable.
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Joe Hoya
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Post by Joe Hoya on Apr 8, 2005 16:44:33 GMT -5
Some parts of the Jersey Shore epitomize dirty i.e., the water in Ocean City. And now I've fired the first shot in the Wildwood Kicks The Crap Out Of Ocean City War. I'm batting 1.000 today. Unless of course nobody here like OC, in which case...cool.
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TBird41
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Post by TBird41 on Apr 8, 2005 16:49:13 GMT -5
Gotta love hierarchies, even if they don't work well. why don't you guys just assign military or governmental ranks and get it over with? On a serious note, you folks that are still in school should listen to the oldies like Cambridge and others -- real world experience in invaluable. I probably wasn't very clear-- I didn't mean to say a strict hierarchy, just a general framework of how to set it up. A Board and then just a mess of people wouldn't work so well.
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SoCalHoya
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Post by SoCalHoya on Apr 8, 2005 20:07:24 GMT -5
Just a quick note on Board governance (or social dynamics, even). Though at first it would seem that a big board or slate of officers would provide more input, etc., studies have shown that keeping the numbers down actually gets more done.
The studies usually go on to explain that individuals from the smaller groups tend to me more dedicated, take more ownership over individual tasks, etc. If groups get too big, people don't chime in b/c they are afraid of being the holdout or worse off, members just figure others will take care of business and slack off.
Just a thought. I very much want this group to be successful, even if I have to watch/listen from afar!
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GUHoya07
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Post by GUHoya07 on Apr 8, 2005 21:38:37 GMT -5
Thanks, interesting stuff with the study findings.
I wouldnt want the board to be too big, so as long as we cover all the necessary areas it should be fine.
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TBird41
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Post by TBird41 on Apr 10, 2005 21:09:16 GMT -5
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FLHoya
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Post by FLHoya on Apr 11, 2005 0:08:03 GMT -5
Just an FYI, Hoya Blue sent an email out to their mailing list tonight (I guess technically this morning, since it's about 1am right now) about Saxapalooza/the meeting on Tuesday.
The part about the meeting says "Become a more active Hoya Blue member for the 2005-2006 Campaign" and then it's the text of the announcement that's posted on guhoyas.com (and linked right above this post, now isn't that convenient?)
So just in case anyone doesn't get those emails, there you go.
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JimmyHoya
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Post by JimmyHoya on Apr 11, 2005 15:39:25 GMT -5
Keep the board small with a few, but very motivated leaders. It'll work much better.
Bigger groups don't = bigger, better ideas, it ='s more bickering and other nonsense.
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HoyaNCCT
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Post by HoyaNCCT on Apr 12, 2005 10:07:08 GMT -5
Can someone explain to me why this is "good." While having the university acknowledge the group and offically appreciate the work they do, I do not understand why this is a step forward. Many groups on campus are sick of the torture they are put through in terms of making offical budgets, having SAC meetings, having their money tied up and only accessible through red tape and having their profits not kept for their own projects but redistributed to other campus organizations.
Beyond this, look at our University's most successful group. One that has stood the test of time and has made significant contributions to the cultural and financial success of the university... The Chimes. While I know they are a point of ridicule on this board at times, they are a Georgetown institution. The Chimes are independent from the University but have a great working relationship with the University. Something to think about... especially in light of what The Hoya is going through in looking at going independent. There has also been talk among some of the Phantoms, Mask & Bauble, etc.
It might be more benefical to organize a 501(c)3 - a Charitable Trust - around the organization and have it funded this way until the funding at Georgetown is better distributed / managed. It leaves the group with greater autonomy and flexibility.
Just a few thoughts, if you'd like more details on these things, please let me know.
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TBird41
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Post by TBird41 on Apr 12, 2005 10:22:59 GMT -5
Can someone explain to me why this is "good." While having the university acknowledge the group and offically appreciate the work they do, I do not understand why this is a step forward. Many groups on campus are sick of the torture they are put through in terms of making offical budgets, having SAC meetings, having their money tied up and only accessible through red tape and having their profits not kept for their own projects but redistributed to other campus organizations. Beyond this, look at our University's most successful group. One that has stood the test of time and has made significant contributions to the cultural and financial success of the university... The Chimes. While I know they are a point of ridicule on this board at times, they are a Georgetown institution. The Chimes are independent from the University but have a great working relationship with the University. Something to think about... especially in light of what The Hoya is going through in looking at going independent. There has also been talk among some of the Phantoms, Mask & Bauble, etc. It might be more benefical to organize a 501(c)3 - a Charitable Trust - around the organization and have it funded this way until the funding at Georgetown is better distributed / managed. It leaves the group with greater autonomy and flexibility. Just a few thoughts, if you'd like more details on these things, please let me know. I think it's good b/c it forces Hoya Blue to reform, something I doubt it would do on its own. And Hoya Blue was going to either reform, fade into irrelevance or get replaced by an upstart group.
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YB
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Post by YB on Apr 12, 2005 18:35:31 GMT -5
What's the good word from the meeting? Everything all settled yet?
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HoyaNCCT
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Post by HoyaNCCT on Apr 12, 2005 18:38:15 GMT -5
I think it's good b/c it forces Hoya Blue to reform, something I doubt it would do on its own. And Hoya Blue was going to either reform, fade into irrelevance or get replaced by an upstart group. Out of curiosity, are the undergrads on this board looking at taking this thing over? When it first started it was a pretty vocal group. Also, why not start something new if this group is incompetent?
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Post by jerseyhoya34 on Apr 12, 2005 18:40:37 GMT -5
Out of curiosity, are the undergrads on this board looking at taking this thing over? When it first started it was a pretty vocal group. Also, why not start something new if this group is incompetent? No comment on the first question. There is an election to win. On the second question, it has been considered, but the HB election represents a great opportunity for students to do something in an official manner.
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TBird41
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Post by TBird41 on Apr 12, 2005 18:42:41 GMT -5
No comment on the first question. There is an election to win. May I present Jersey"Karl Rove" Hoya34.
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RBHoya
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Post by RBHoya on Apr 12, 2005 18:43:46 GMT -5
I think it's good b/c it forces Hoya Blue to reform, something I doubt it would do on its own. And Hoya Blue was going to either reform, fade into irrelevance or get replaced by an upstart group. Right. Without any sort of oversight from anyone willing to do anything Hoya Blue was just becoming less and less of a factor on campus. Something needed to be done--either someone needed to get in a position of power and rescue hoya blue, or a new club needed to be started that could do what they weren't. The second option would have been very difficult to say the least, so we're fortunate enough to have some say in the first this evening. Ideally we'd be able to have complete financial control, university/AD support, and authority over all things that matter, but sometimes you have to give some things to make progress, and it looks like we'll lose a bit of financial sovereignty in order to get a lot of decision making power (in the form of a Constitution and elected leadership). It's still a good thing overall.
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Post by jerseyhoya34 on Apr 12, 2005 18:43:57 GMT -5
May I present Jersey"Karl Rove" Hoya34. FLHoya is the Architect, not me. Some call me Mr. Ambassador. Although I must say we could be fairly "on message" tonight with the We are GU shirts.
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FLHoya
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Post by FLHoya on Apr 12, 2005 18:58:09 GMT -5
FLHoya is the Architect, not me. Some call me Mr. Ambassador. Although I must say we could be fairly "on message" tonight with the We are GU shirts. Oh lord, can we not call me "The Architect"? How about just "John"? I guess I'm okay with being called by the name I use on here, but honestly, it strikes me as odd this silly nickname business. Just not the nickname type...I would be closer to the "camera shy guy in the third row with the constant nervous expression during games" type. And of all the people to compare JerseyHoya to, Karl Rove just strikes me as funny.
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