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Post by DanMcQ on Apr 14, 2014 21:18:45 GMT -5
JerryLH - a Dayton degree is not as worthless as you are making it out to be. You probably have a point about Towson (I have no idea), but you're dead wrong about Dayton.
From its Wikipedia page:
The University's notable alumni include Nobel Prize winner Charles J. Pedersen; Kristina Keneally, first female Premier of New South Wales; humorist Erma Bombeck; architect Bruce Graham; sportscaster Dan Patrick; Super Bowl-winning coaches Jon Gruden and Chuck Noll; and engineer David Bradley, inventor of the Control-Alt-Delete computer keyboard command.
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Post by wahoohoya on Apr 14, 2014 21:52:38 GMT -5
Hoyainspirit-you are a Coward. It is fine to disagree and to even call my post nonsense. But make a point. What about my post is nonsense?? All? Part?? What?? Are you saying that A Towson degree is seen in the same light as a Georgetown Degree?? It probably doesn't matter if you go into construction or working as a waiter. However, if you are applying for a job that requires, computer skills, writing skills, speaking skills, etc., you better believe It matters to an employer. Believe it or not, it often matters to a potential mate (and probably his or her parents as well). Georgetown is also a great place to meet a potential mate. The campus is full of students of the opposite sex who are bright, and well motivated. It may not be fair or equitable, but that is how the world works. Incidentally, playing in Europe is not as easy as it once was. The Europeans are very good now, and unless you are a star over there, the pay is mediocre. I know this isn't directed at me, but I'll chime in anyway. In my opinion, you are coming across as someone with a limited view of the world by calling these kids stupid for doing something that you'll never understand - and as such your posts on this subject don't really merit a thoughtful response. Nobody is arguing that a degree from Towson is as prestigious as a degree from Georgetown. Just consider that the experiences one might have in college can be worth a lot more than a fancy degree. And if that doesn't register with you, consider that Benimon might not have really had a choice to stay at Georgetown even if he wanted to.
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Post by nathanhm on Apr 14, 2014 21:53:48 GMT -5
Really? This is what this debate has ended up, a degree measuring contest.
There are lots of successful people from every college or university, there are also a lot of people who are failures. Some schools give you a better shot at ending up in one group vs the other but it usually has a whole heck of a lot more to do with you than your oversized piece of paper hanging on your wall.
I'd also venture to say if you picked your college experience based on which was going to provide you the highest paycheck you missed what college is all about.
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Post by bmartin on Apr 14, 2014 21:57:09 GMT -5
The guy who told you that was lying about his salary. ok If any bank paid $250K to a BA right out of Stanford, that is one Editeded-up bank. The best use of a Stanford or Georgetown degree is to get into an elite law or medical or business or other grad school. That is where you are ahead of other schools' graduates. The real world does not need more jackasses who think they deserve $200K right out of college because of the name of the school on their diplomas.
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Post by dreamhoya on Apr 14, 2014 22:09:49 GMT -5
I think this'll be another Vee Sanford situation - but Domingo has a touch more talent. However it won't matter as much as I think GU is poised to make a run here over the next few to 5 years.
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Post by bmartin on Apr 14, 2014 22:16:07 GMT -5
There is zero evidence that Domingo has more talent than Vee Sanford. Good luck to him, but he couldn't guard Vee in his dreams and Vee could easily guard him playing at 3/4 speed.
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Post by hoyainspirit on Apr 14, 2014 23:03:47 GMT -5
Hoyainspirit-you are a Coward. It is fine to disagree and to even call my post nonsense. But make a point. What about my post is nonsense?? All? Part?? What?? Are you saying that A Towson degree is seen in the same light as a Georgetown Degree?? It probably doesn't matter if you go into construction or working as a waiter. However, if you are applying for a job that requires, computer skills, writing skills, speaking skills, etc., you better believe It matters to an employer. Believe it or not, it often matters to a potential mate (and probably his or her parents as well). Georgetown is also a great place to meet a potential mate. The campus is full of students of the opposite sex who are bright, and well motivated. It may not be fair or equitable, but that is how the world works. Incidentally, playing in Europe is not as easy as it once was. The Europeans are very good now, and unless you are a star over there, the pay is mediocre. Your post is so assinine it doesn't deserve further comment from me. Nonsense adequately describes the b u l l you wrote.
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Post by dreamhoya on Apr 14, 2014 23:16:10 GMT -5
There is zero evidence that Domingo has more talent than Vee Sanford. Good luck to him, but he couldn't guard Vee in his dreams and Vee could easily guard him playing at 3/4 speed. You're right, that's why it's my opinion. Definitely not proven.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 15, 2014 4:32:45 GMT -5
Hi Dan!
I already stated that there is nothing wrong with a Dayton degree. It is an excellent school. However, when an employer sees a prestigious degree on a resume it does mean something. Not to mention networking, etc. Anyway, that's my opinion.
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Post by DanMcQ on Apr 15, 2014 5:54:08 GMT -5
Seems like a smart move for Domingo. It is quite different from the stupid moves made by Bennimon and V. Sanford. Now that their basketball careers are over, they will have degrees from Towson State and Dayton. Now there is nothing wrong with those degrees, but they are not the prestigous degree each would have had had they graduated from Georgetown. They will find out when they go looking for a job. Depends on the job and, more so, on the student. In Vee's case, you could not be more wrong.
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Post by Boz on Apr 15, 2014 6:39:03 GMT -5
You can get a job with a college degree? Pffft! Not in Obama's America! [ducks, runs]
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Post by FrazierFanatic on Apr 15, 2014 7:38:53 GMT -5
If you are talking about basketball, that's true. Down the road, if you think that it doesn't matter whether it is a degree from Towson State or Georgetown when you put your resume out there I don't know what to say. The resume comes to the employers before they even meet the candidate. In most jobs there are several resumes and I can tell you that it DOES make a difference where you got your degree from, particularly for the first job. There is also the advantage of networking with other Georgetown grads who are more likely to be found in higher management. Hoyainspirit, you are just wrong. It is not nonsense. to piggyback on this: The 12th man on Stanford's bench has a good chance of making as much or more than Jerrelle B will at his first pro basketball contract. All because he has a degree from Stanford. I know a guy who rode Stanford's bench who got a bank management position making around 250. first job out of college. No actual experience at being in a bank management position. But because he had a degree from Stanford, they let him learn on the job. that's how good a stanford degree is. Great turnout for Stephen Domingo $250 a week seems low for a bank management position.
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Post by puppydog100 on Apr 15, 2014 8:46:27 GMT -5
In the recent ROI Report of 896 colleges and universities, Stanford was ranked 4th, Georgetown tied at 148.
This report weighs the cost of education to alumni future earnings.
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Post by hoyasaxa2003 on Apr 15, 2014 9:28:04 GMT -5
In the recent ROI Report of 896 colleges and universities, Stanford was ranked 4th, Georgetown tied at 148.
This report weighs the cost of education to alumni future earnings.
I wonder how much of this has to do with the majors offered by both schools? For example, Stanford has an Engineering school, whereas Georgetown does not. I am pretty confident that the average engineering graduate from Stanford probably makes more money than the average liberal arts or SFS major. And when you consider that Stanford is located in an economically strong area for innovation and technology, I can definitely see where Stanford's graduates on average make more money. Not to mention, it's a great school.
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Post by cosmopolitanhoya on Apr 15, 2014 9:44:09 GMT -5
lol @ people who are comparing college degree. but then again remembering how some of the guys at gtown i met are total jackasses who have sneered at people going to GW or Howard, I am not surprised this is brought up here.
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Post by Filo on Apr 15, 2014 10:02:12 GMT -5
lol @ people who are comparing college degree. but then again remembering how some of the guys at gtown i met are total jackasses who have sneered at people going to GW or Howard, I am not surprised this is brought up here. The hypocrisy in this post is stunningly hilarious. Pot, meet kettle.
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Post by Boz on Apr 15, 2014 10:23:34 GMT -5
Can we move this to the Blue & Gray Board so that I can get really, REALLY snarky? Nothing wrong in taking pride in your education and alma mater. I certainly do and wouldn't trade it for anything. (Yeah, even you, Princeton, you jerks! You were NEVER my first choice anyway!!) As such, a little bravado in defense of our school (or at least the money we spent to go there) is understandable. But there are lots of good schools. More importantly, there are lots of good students who, given the opportunity, will make success for themselves regardless of where they are fortunate enough to matriculate. The world is full of these people. I call them "Republicans."
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Post by This Just In on Apr 15, 2014 10:32:55 GMT -5
I think this measuring of comparing degrees from different schools is a moot point anyways.
Jerrelle Benimon will get attached to at least the D-League or overseas team.
Vee Sanford will get a look too.
Right now is too early to say that their basketball careers are overs.
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Post by rockhoya on Apr 15, 2014 11:33:11 GMT -5
lol @ people who are comparing college degree. but then again remembering how some of the guys at gtown i met are total jackasses who have sneered at people going to GW or Howard, I am not surprised this is brought up here. The hypocrisy in this post is stunningly hilarious. Pot, meet kettle. Yeah but the difference is once side is justified, and the other side is just misguided.
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Post by cosmopolitanhoya on Apr 15, 2014 12:00:35 GMT -5
daytonahoya, your example may be true, but the idea that an average Stanford graduate (i.e., generally a very smart accomplished person) would get a job straight out of college making $250,000 a year is nothing even remotely close to normal. Entry level positions at banks generally do not pay anything even close to $250,000 in this economy, unless you have a special skill or specialty that makes you valuable (and usually that requires a lot more than a college degree). If there is a bank dumb enough to hire a newly minted 22 year old college graduate for $250,000 I'd like to know who it is so I can cash in, too. the whole $250K may be over-exaggerated but if you are talking about Ibanking, they do make pretty decent amount. and that's not strictly reserved for grads out of stanford. even if you go to towson or dayton, if you get a job at Goldman Sachs Ibanking division, you will be making a lot. A couple of years ago when i finished my bachelor, the peers around me signed contracts at big-time Ibanking firms for $70K base salary + $10K signing bonus + 150% of base salary in bonus. that comes out to be a pretty good figure for those 22 years old college grads. the trick is they have to work about 100-120 hrs a week
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