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Post by Deleted on Mar 9, 2014 13:42:08 GMT -5
I like Josh’s potential but he would have to improve his shooting a bunch before I became excited about an offer. The kid made 18 3’s total this year in 34 games Wasn't that the same thing we said about Josh Hart? Good athlete, mediocre shooter? I agree that neither is a complete player that is setting the world on fire -- yet, at least -- but it hurt to see a local kid that wanted to be a Hoya contribute to his team's thrashing of us yesterday. Would be equally frustrating to see Reaves at Nova also or helping UMD return to some measure of prominence.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 9, 2014 13:55:49 GMT -5
I like Josh’s potential but he would have to improve his shooting a bunch before I became excited about an offer. The kid made 18 3’s total this year in 34 games Wasn't that the same thing we said about Josh Hart? Good athlete, mediocre shooter? I agree that neither is a complete player that is setting the world on fire -- yet, at least -- but it hurt to see a local kid that wanted to be a Hoya contribute to his team's thrashing of us yesterday. Would be equally frustrating to see Reaves at Nova also or helping UMD return to some measure of prominence. Not if you land a better player, you can’t have them all.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 9, 2014 13:59:49 GMT -5
Wasn't that the same thing we said about Josh Hart? Good athlete, mediocre shooter? I agree that neither is a complete player that is setting the world on fire -- yet, at least -- but it hurt to see a local kid that wanted to be a Hoya contribute to his team's thrashing of us yesterday. Would be equally frustrating to see Reaves at Nova also or helping UMD return to some measure of prominence. Not if you land a better player, you can’t have them all. True-- in my personal opinion, Hart is better than Cameron and projects better, but I think I'm with you with Mann/Trier being the best off guard/SG prospects in 2015. That leads to the next important question which is how long do you wait for their decisions? also, isn't Reaves more of a wing? Do you think there is room for them to play together?
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Post by Deleted on Mar 9, 2014 14:25:26 GMT -5
Not if you land a better player, you can’t have them all. True-- in my personal opinion, Hart is better than Cameron and projects better, but I think I'm with you with Mann/Trier being the best off guard/SG prospects in 2015. That leads to the next important question which is how long do you wait for their decisions? also, isn't Reaves more of a wing? Do you think there is room for them to play together? Josh would be my back-up in case Mann went elsewhere. I figure Mann makes his decision by the end of Summer, same with Trier but you never know. Our new staff’s approach is more aggressive than the last, and has done a much better job of closing the deal so I feel good about landing 1 of the 2. If Josh starts to show more consistency with his jumper and shows out over the summer you offer and never look back. This year has been a down one but it did show recruits that guards can get off in this offense and have the freedom to do what they want. On a side note the offense has changed a lot and II has put in more pro sets this year to free the guards. With the recruiting class you have coming in you have momentum, just have to close the deal. I think we end up with some high level guards this year.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 15, 2014 2:43:46 GMT -5
www.times-news.com/basketball/x787216056/Reaves-sparks-Paul-VI-past-BenedictineFROSTBURG — Joshua Reaves scored 22 points, grabbed six rebounds and led four double-figure scorers as Paul VI made a living from the free-throw line in Game IV of the Alhambra Catholic Invitational Tournament late Thursday evening in defeating Benedictine, 69-58. Reaves, a 6-foot-4 junior, had five dunks, including back-to-back slams to end the third quarter, and finished 7 for 8 from the field and 8 of 9 from the foul line to lead all scorers for the Panthers (29-6), of Fairfax, Va., who will play defending champion O’Connell in another battle of Virginia teams on Friday at 9:15. Evan Taylor had 12 points and seven rebounds, Marcus Derrickson 12 points and Kevin Dorsey 10 points for Paul VI, which hit 12 of 13 foul shots in the second quarter and 35 of 45 for the game. Dorsey was 10 for 10, Taylor 8 of 14, Tyler Scanlon 7 of 10. Reaves had three dunks in the first quarter, the last one a one-handed one after grabbing a rebound just before the buzzer. It gave Paul VI the lead for good at 19-18. “Josh brings so much energy and athleticism to the game,” said Panthers coach Glenn Farello. “He brings a lot of things to the table. It’s obvious what kind of game he has and what he can do with the ball and above the rim, but he’s also so good without the ball, and that’s very important and such a big key.” Indiana-bound Robert Johnson, a 6-3 guard, had 20 points, 13 in the fourth quarter, for Benedictine (24-6), of Richmond, Va., which made only 14 trips to the foul line, making seven. The fouls piled up on Benedictine early, putting Paul VI into the one-and-one with 6:51 left in the first half. Reaves began the 12 for 13 second-quarter team showing from the line by making all three tries after being fouled on a three-pointer to open the second quarter, which ended 35-30. Derrickson, a 6-8 junior who has verbally committed to Georgetown, hit in the lane and nailed a three-point shot on back-to-back possessions midway through the third quarter to give the Panthers their first double-figure lead at 46-35. After a Johnson three-point play with 1:38 left, Reaves dunked on an assist from Scanlon and then again on an Alley Oop pass from Curtis Jones to make it 56-44 at the end of the period.
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Post by eastcoastteddy58 on Mar 15, 2014 13:31:37 GMT -5
Has anyone seen him play and if so how does he compare to Aaron Bowen? I like him but he's too short for SF and JT3 likes the PG/SG combo, he seems more of a glue guy in a SG body. I still like him, especially if he's got Jabril like defense.
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Post by hoyajmw on Mar 16, 2014 11:39:20 GMT -5
See the Derrickson thread for latest ... And see earlier in this thread for some in person observations, eastcoastteddy58. The Aaron Bowen comparison good but basically the floor and far fom the ceiling for Reaves, on either end of the floor. Rather meteoric rise this season already and will be interested in seeing how offense especially develops this Summer (I assume he'll be playing on the Team Takeover top team with Derrickson after playing for the 16 year old team in 2013 while Marcus played up a year on top squad).
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Post by MCIGuy on Mar 16, 2014 16:55:20 GMT -5
To say Bowen is the floor for Reaves is premature for a kid who isn't ranked and wasn't on anyone's radar before this season. In the end you may be right but I've seen this scenario play out too many times with the raw guy like Reaves remaining mostly raw by the time his college career was over.
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Post by SFHoya99 on Mar 16, 2014 18:33:55 GMT -5
To say Bowen is the floor for Reaves is premature for a kid who isn't ranked and wasn't on anyone's radar before this season. In the end you may be right but I've seen this scenario play out too many times with the raw guy like Reaves remaining mostly raw by the time his college career was over. Bowen ain't exactly a high floor.
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Post by MCIGuy on Mar 16, 2014 23:38:16 GMT -5
To say Bowen is the floor for Reaves is premature for a kid who isn't ranked and wasn't on anyone's radar before this season. In the end you may be right but I've seen this scenario play out too many times with the raw guy like Reaves remaining mostly raw by the time his college career was over. Bowen ain't exactly a high floor. No, the poster made it clear that Bowen was the low floor. Seriously do you feel the need to interject anytime Bowen is involved in a conversation? You have to get your licks in on him as if he stole your lunch money in grade school. Can't you give him a break? The point of my remark though was that Reaves has crazy athleticism but there is no guarantee he will ever develop a game more suited for the halfcourt as I've seen Bowen do this season. Claiming that Bowen is the floor for Reaves' college career is premature and does a disservice to Bowen who is now a legit BE player. We have guys on the roster like Domingo who have yet to even prove they can be that. It isn't as easy as it seems. Just don't want to jump the gun on a kid who is as of now unranked. And trust me if he comes in and doesn't develop any handle or legit shooting ability he will be slaughted by Hoya fans on this board. If the Hoyas get him I hope he becomes Dwayne Wade, but I will settle for him being about as good as Bowen is right now. That may not be good enough for some of you, but there are those of us who see Bowen as being a quality player worthy of getting time on the court in the BE. Nothing wrong with that.
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Post by blueandgray on Mar 17, 2014 0:40:00 GMT -5
Reaves is as explosive an athlete as Bowen with a higher bball IQ. I'd take that all day long.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 17, 2014 11:04:02 GMT -5
Bowen ain't exactly a high floor. No, the poster made it clear that Bowen was the low floor. Seriously do you feel the need to interject anytime Bowen is involved in a conversation? You have to get your licks in on him as if he stole your lunch money in grade school. Can't you give him a break? The point of my remark though was that Reaves has crazy athleticism but there is no guarantee he will ever develop a game more suited for the halfcourt as I've seen Bowen do this season. Claiming that Bowen is the floor for Reaves' college career is premature and does a disservice to Bowen who is now a legit BE player. We have guys on the roster like Domingo who have yet to even prove they can be that. It isn't as easy as it seems. Just don't want to jump the gun on a kid who is as of now unranked. And trust me if he comes in and doesn't develop any handle or legit shooting ability he will be slaughted by Hoya fans on this board. If the Hoyas get him I hope he becomes Dwayne Wade, but I will settle for him being about as good as Bowen is right now. That may not be good enough for some of you, but there are those of us who see Bowen as being a quality player worthy of getting time on the court in the BE. Nothing wrong with that. If Reaves comes in as a freshman and is playing at Bowen's current level that's a huge pickup for the program. Bowen is not setting the world on fire but if you had to point to roster issues with the Hoyas right now, he's not even in the top 5. I've been pleasantly surprised by his contributions this season and actually hope he comes back next year. As for Reaves, I actually don't think he's quite as raw as people make him out to be. For sure he still has to develop other parts of his game to become a more complete player, but I saw enough of his high school games where he hit 3's in the half-court, in crunch time to know he's more than just a dunker. For sure he has the athleticism in the open court but he also uses it to get a lot of stick-backs and garbage buckets. He reminds me a little of Hart in that way-- he does the little things pretty well. Also, I love the way Paul VI uses him in the half-court to set-up alley-oops off backdoors. With our talent and athleticism coming in, I do hope JT3 utilizes some of those types of plays to finally deliver on the Princeton on steroids promise. Would love Paul White feeding leaping cutters in the half-court set or Tre throwing lobs on the break. One last thing about Reaves is that he's going to have a great opportunity to learn and develop fundamentals further under Glenn Farello and developing chemistry with Derrickson. I think they do a very good job over there.....
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Post by Bigs"R"Us on Mar 17, 2014 11:59:14 GMT -5
He is the type of guy you want when we press.
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Post by MCIGuy on Mar 17, 2014 12:37:56 GMT -5
Would you guys prefer Mann who has more skill and more height or Reaves? Does it matter?
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Post by Deleted on Mar 17, 2014 12:56:38 GMT -5
I like Mann...
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Post by EtomicB on Mar 17, 2014 13:04:50 GMT -5
Would you guys prefer Mann who has more skill and more height or Reaves? Does it matter? Mann, Mann & Mann for me.. I do like Reaves a lot but Mann is a more polished player IMO.. The thing I like about both of them is that they don't need the ball to be effective.. I'd love to see the staff get both along with Dickerson too.. Derrickson, Dickerson, Mann & Reaves is a monster class especially if Dickerson develops a mid range jumper like he says he wants to.
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Post by hoyajmw on Mar 17, 2014 13:33:19 GMT -5
On the "news you can use" front, saw an interview with Josh this week-end in which he confirmed (1) no offer yet from us, MD or Oklahoma (all of whom are watching him, he says); (2) does have offers from Villanova, Temple, BC, VCU and Penn State; (3) confirmed he'll be playing for Team Takeover this Summer (monster team that should be, again); and (4) this summer knows he needs to try to gain weight to get to 200lbs (6'4", 185 now), and work on his shot and his off-hand handle especially. Also saw where he said in an interview about a month back that academics the most important thing for his school choice (which may of course just be so much shine-ola, but still nice to hear). It also occurred to me that a reason we have not offered yet might be because I believe we have an outstanding offer to his classmate/teammate Franklin Howard -- also a 6'4" guard who didnt' play all year due to an injury of some sort (I think a knee but don't know).
And rather than news but just continued opinion, have seen enough of him in person to echo Denny's comments above -- he's not nearly as raw as people might think, and the run (hell, the rampage) Paul VI has been on over the last three weeks shouldn't be discounted as further evidence of continued growth in leaps and bounds (apt phrase there..). But point taken from MCIGuy: can't necessarily assume continued progress, and there are enough things on the offensive end that need to be worked on to be measured in projections (which may be why MD hasn't offered, either). But sure is fun watching this kid play basketball..
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Post by MCIGuy on Mar 17, 2014 14:19:49 GMT -5
Would you guys prefer Mann who has more skill and more height or Reaves? Does it matter? Mann, Mann & Mann for me.. I do like Reaves a lot but Mann is a more polished player IMO.. The thing I like about both of them is that they don't need the ball to be effective.. I'd love to see the staff get both along with Dickerson too.. Derrickson, Dickerson, Mann & Reaves is a monster class especially if Dickerson develops a mid range jumper like he says he wants to. To me with Derrickson already on board my priorities would be: - a highly regarded big man who is at least 6'10 - A. Grier - Dickerson - and whoever we have room left for
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Post by prhoya on Mar 17, 2014 14:23:22 GMT -5
How about some Bacon?
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Post by Deleted on Mar 17, 2014 14:44:08 GMT -5
I think the ship has sailed on him. Would be very surprised if he ends up a Hoya. I agree that overall priorities should be a big man (Dickerson) and then another guard (Trier/Mann) then Reaves. Problem is that the situation in practice rarely lines up with our ideal. Sounds like none of them will pop until the fall, whereas Reaves really likes us and would probably commit immediately. And even though Reaves isn't priority A1, there's something to be said for having a solid guard/wing that can provide some depth off the bench in a Josh Hart role, and will be ready to step in as a starter by sophomore or junior year when Bowen, DSR, Trawick and possibly Peak will be gone. Will be nice to not have to start from scratch with an unproven freshman unless we can recruit somebody very highly ranked.... I think the staff will wait until after the summer to decide on the guard issue though.....
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