beenaround
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Post by beenaround on Sept 23, 2014 22:05:02 GMT -5
I have a hard time seeing a Top 3, one and done, from California coming to the Hilltop. The challenging academics, lack of facilities, and adoring throngs of fans and boosters would seem more important to such a player than the Big Man U tradition. IF the staff pulls this off, they will have done a masterful job.
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MCIGuy
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Post by MCIGuy on Sept 23, 2014 22:20:30 GMT -5
Spring announcement is almost a sure thing. If so....cool. Let's make sure we have a better season than Cal which could only help when competing against the Bears at least,
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Post by HoyaSinceBirth on Sept 24, 2014 7:44:22 GMT -5
Spring announcement is almost a sure thing. If so....cool. Let's make sure we have a better season than Cal which could only help when competing against the Bears at least, Shouldn't be too hard since they lost 4 of their top 8 from last year including their go to guy from a team that missed the tournament as well. Their recruiting class consists of a 2 star player and a NR player, and you could add Domingo to that class as he becomes eligible.
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Post by hoyalove4ever on Sept 24, 2014 8:04:23 GMT -5
If he goes to Cal, I think it will be because he wants to stay home and likes the coach. I doubt that he will be scared off because they had a bad season. On some level, however, it is true that could be helpful for the Hoyas. It would also be very helpful if Arizona signed one of the other many big men they are after.
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Post by hoyazeke on Sept 24, 2014 17:54:27 GMT -5
Cal may be Ivan's quickest route to the league because he would instantly be there best player. Can't say the same about Gtown with DSR, Ike, and Peak on the roster.
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Post by calhoya on Sept 24, 2014 18:09:32 GMT -5
Cal's climb back to the national scene in college basketball may not be that difficult. Good conference, lots of exposure and a nice pool of talent to draw from locally. A kid with notions of going to the NBA soon may want to stick around the home area for another 1-2 years. Hope that I am wrong but I have never thought that Rabb would end up East of Kentucky and more likely in Cal or Arizona.
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Post by HoyasAreHungry on Sept 24, 2014 21:32:04 GMT -5
Nice to see we've got so many Cal fans on here
Sheesh!
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Post by TBird41 on Sept 24, 2014 22:21:06 GMT -5
Cal may be Ivan's quickest route to the league because he would instantly be there best player. Can't say the same about Gtown with DSR, Ike, and Peak on the roster. Hasn't hurt the Kentucky big men recruits very much to play with a lot of other really good players
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Post by SFHoya99 on Sept 24, 2014 22:38:19 GMT -5
Cal may be Ivan's quickest route to the league because he would instantly be there best player. Can't say the same about Gtown with DSR, Ike, and Peak on the roster. The NBA doesn't draft on stats.
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Post by tashoya on Sept 24, 2014 22:47:26 GMT -5
Cal may be Ivan's quickest route to the league because he would instantly be there best player. Can't say the same about Gtown with DSR, Ike, and Peak on the roster. Hasn't hurt the Kentucky big men recruits very much to play with a lot of other really good players That's actually debatable. The ones that think of themselves as one and dones and are ranked as such but are more borderline tend to stay. They then figure out that their coach isn't much of a coach and will recruit over them if given the chance.
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Post by tashoya on Sept 24, 2014 23:01:17 GMT -5
Cal may be Ivan's quickest route to the league because he would instantly be there best player. Can't say the same about Gtown with DSR, Ike, and Peak on the roster. Ivan's quickest route to the league is being Ivan. I've seen him projected top five in the 2016 draft. The school barely matters. Georgetown needs Ivan more than Ivan needs Georgetown if the metric is getting to the NBA. He doesn't need any particular school for that. Good conference and it's a wrap if he does what he needs to do. That's part of why it's so difficult for Georgetown to get that caliber of player. They will need to go to class. School will matter. And they won't have the spotlight on them like they will at a Kentucky because theirs is a crap way to run a program and isn't teaching anyone anything. Then again, if you're Otto Porter, even in our "boring" offense, you can take the mantle up yourself and showcase what you can do. And you'll still get drafted at or above where you should have anyway. Not many kids choose the more difficult path. 18, 19, 20.... those are important years even though they don't feel like it to a lot of kids. Imagine being a near lock for a good amount of money and some fame. Remember how you felt at that age and then add that to the mix. It can't be easy and I can understand why Georgetown is a tough sell.
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Post by rockhoya on Sept 24, 2014 23:14:30 GMT -5
Cal may be Ivan's quickest route to the league because he would instantly be there best player. Can't say the same about Gtown with DSR, Ike, and Peak on the roster. Ivan's quickest route to the league is being Ivan. I've seen him projected top five in the 2016 draft. The school barely matters. Georgetown needs Ivan more than Ivan needs Georgetown if the metric is getting to the NBA. He doesn't need any particular school for that. Good conference and it's a wrap if he does what he needs to do. That's part of why it's so difficult for Georgetown to get that caliber of player. They will need to go to class. School will matter. And they won't have the spotlight on them like they will at a Kentucky because theirs is a crap way to run a program and isn't teaching anyone anything. Then again, if you're Otto Porter, even in our "boring" offense, you can take the mantle up yourself and showcase what you can do. And you'll still get drafted at or above where you should have anyway. Not many kids choose the more difficult path. 18, 19, 20.... those are important years even though they don't feel like it to a lot of kids. Imagine being a near lock for a good amount of money and some fame. Remember how you felt at that age and then add that to the mix. It can't be easy and I can understand why Georgetown is a tough sell. I think you're a little higher on Rabb than his talent level would suggest
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Post by tashoya on Sept 25, 2014 9:14:02 GMT -5
Ivan's quickest route to the league is being Ivan. I've seen him projected top five in the 2016 draft. The school barely matters. Georgetown needs Ivan more than Ivan needs Georgetown if the metric is getting to the NBA. He doesn't need any particular school for that. Good conference and it's a wrap if he does what he needs to do. That's part of why it's so difficult for Georgetown to get that caliber of player. They will need to go to class. School will matter. And they won't have the spotlight on them like they will at a Kentucky because theirs is a crap way to run a program and isn't teaching anyone anything. Then again, if you're Otto Porter, even in our "boring" offense, you can take the mantle up yourself and showcase what you can do. And you'll still get drafted at or above where you should have anyway. Not many kids choose the more difficult path. 18, 19, 20.... those are important years even though they don't feel like it to a lot of kids. Imagine being a near lock for a good amount of money and some fame. Remember how you felt at that age and then add that to the mix. It can't be easy and I can understand why Georgetown is a tough sell. I think you're a little higher on Rabb than his talent level would suggest Apparently, you haven't looked at the mock drafts. I've never seen the kid play in person which is one reason why I defer to more informed sources.
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Post by rkerby15 on Sept 25, 2014 10:25:14 GMT -5
I don't understand why people think Georgetown is so challenging for the basketball players. Has anyone else not seen what little work needs to be done by them to pass? I was friends with a good portion of the team during my years there and I could rattle off so many stories as to what little effort they had to put in, which is why to me Smith and Whittington must have just not been attending class to fail. I don't think any recruit chooses not to go to Georgetown, because they think the classes will be too difficult.
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Post by TBird41 on Sept 25, 2014 10:30:36 GMT -5
I don't understand why people think Georgetown is so challenging for the basketball players. Has anyone else not seen what little work needs to be done by them to pass? I was friends with a good portion of the team during my years there and I could rattle off so many stories as to what little effort they had to put in, which is why to me Smith and Whittington must have just not been attending class to fail. I don't think any recruit chooses not to go to Georgetown, because they think the classes will be too difficult. Heck, I can think of some classes I took / my friends took that were ridiculously easy, if all you wanted to do was pass them
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Post by hoyasaxa18 on Sept 25, 2014 10:50:40 GMT -5
Rabb is apparently waiting until after his UNC in-home visit before he schedules his official visits and narrows down to five schools. There is no date set as of now for his UNC in-home.
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Post by HoyaSinceBirth on Sept 25, 2014 10:51:15 GMT -5
I don't understand why people think Georgetown is so challenging for the basketball players. Has anyone else not seen what little work needs to be done by them to pass? I was friends with a good portion of the team during my years there and I could rattle off so many stories as to what little effort they had to put in, which is why to me Smith and Whittington must have just not been attending class to fail. I don't think any recruit chooses not to go to Georgetown, because they think the classes will be too difficult. Heck, I can think of some classes I took / my friends took that were ridiculously easy, if all you wanted to do was pass them Heck I took a class where all we had to do was write a 1 page paper on a subject of interest to us related to the class once a week and we were allowed to rewrite the papers until we were satisfied with our grade. The professor had tenure and said "I already know you're smart you got into Georgetown, you don't have to prove it to me."
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Post by rockhoya on Sept 25, 2014 18:25:36 GMT -5
I think you're a little higher on Rabb than his talent level would suggest Apparently, you haven't looked at the mock drafts. I've never seen the kid play in person which is one reason why I defer to more informed sources. Yeah I don't base my evaluation off mock drafts....
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Post by tashoya on Sept 25, 2014 20:23:03 GMT -5
Apparently, you haven't looked at the mock drafts. I've never seen the kid play in person which is one reason why I defer to more informed sources. Yeah I don't base my evaluation off mock drafts.... Fair enough. Not knowing you, you'll have to pardon me if I lean towards nearly every mock draft and HS ranking that I've seen.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 6, 2014 11:10:14 GMT -5
UNC cancels visit with top 10 prospect 52 minutes ago North Carolina has cancelled its in-home visit tonight with top 10 prospect Ivan Rabb of Oakland (Calif.) Bishop O Dowd High School according to sports writer Adam Zagoria
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