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Post by lucky on Apr 7, 2014 20:41:10 GMT -5
He owns it until the dogs start sniffing around, he usually bolts 2 years or so before the NCAA investigations start.
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Post by hoyarooter on Apr 8, 2014 19:34:43 GMT -5
All of the comments on Calishadi are true, but the fact is, he doesn't need to cheat in order to win at Kentucky - so maybe he isn't cheating. Bizarre thought, I know. As for Calishadi to the Lakers - I can't stomach Mike No D'Antoni, but I say no thanks to that.
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Post by EtomicB on Apr 13, 2014 10:38:46 GMT -5
I love the way the staff has started out this recruiting period, targeting Dickerson, Govan & Kapita is a very sound strategy in my view..
The program definitely needs bigs so it's better to go after the more realistic targets 1st..
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Post by MCIGuy on Apr 13, 2014 11:25:17 GMT -5
Some say GU winning another championship isn't realistic either. Maybe the coaches shouldn't have such lofty goals then if it is all about the outside perception (including apparently by its own fans) of what is realistic and what isn't. Perhaps it is time for Gtown as a program to throw in the title and accept their lot as a small time program with no big ambitions. If they scale back on who they recruit they might as well scale about on any "fantastical" dreams regarding national a title, too. Especially considering since 1984 the program has had much better success in recruiting top tier big men than it has in winning NCAA championships.
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Post by nychoya3 on Apr 13, 2014 11:44:22 GMT -5
What are you even talking about? Some say GU winning another championship isn't realistic either. Maybe the coaches shouldn't have such lofty goals then if it is all about the outside perception (including apparently by its own fans) of what is realistic and what isn't. Perhaps it is time for Gtown as a program to throw in the title and accept their lot as a small time program with no big ambitions. If they scale back on who they recruit they might as well scale about on any "fantastical" dreams regarding national a title, too. Especially considering since 1984 the program has had much better success in recruiting top tier big men than it has in winning NCAA championships.
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Post by hoyazeke on Apr 13, 2014 12:11:37 GMT -5
NYC, you know what MCI is talking about. You may not agree but you know what he is getting at........I also believe GTown needs to toss a wide net and recruit the one and dones as well as the 4 star 3/4 year type bigs. GTown does not have the clout at this time to put all of their eggs into the one and done baskets based on being "Big Man U". These kids don't care anything about what GTown use to be with regards to bigs. Ideally we need our '14 recruits to have a great year that attracts at least one '15 one and done type big. There are 3 or 4 bigs coming out next year that could be the difference between a really good year and a championship caliber year in 2015. I think it is imperative that we have a decent showing in the tourney next year. At least one win but Sweet16/Elite8 could seal the deal with one of the '15 crop of bigs. But that requires us getting one of the 4star bigs also. Dickerson, Govan, or Kapita along with one of Rabb/Commanche/Moore/Labaissere? would be a great big man class. MCI you are a little delusional if you believe we will land two of the one and done bigs................ I forgot Stone and Ellerson.............
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Post by DanMcQ on Apr 13, 2014 12:43:36 GMT -5
Amazing how easily sarcasm flies over the heads of many...
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Post by Deleted on Apr 13, 2014 12:58:23 GMT -5
NYC, you know what MCI is talking about. You may not agree but you know what he is getting at........I also believe GTown needs to toss a wide net and recruit the one and dones as well as the 4 star 3/4 year type bigs. GTown does not have the clout at this time to put all of their eggs into the one and done baskets based on being "Big Man U". These kids don't care anything about what GTown use to be with regards to bigs. Ideally we need our '14 recruits to have a great year that attracts at least one '15 one and done type big. There are 3 or 4 bigs coming out next year that could be the difference between a really good year and a championship caliber year in 2015. I think it is imperative that we have a decent showing in the tourney next year. At least one win but Sweet16/Elite8 could seal the deal with one of the '15 crop of bigs. But that requires us getting one of the 4star bigs also. Dickerson, Govan, or Kapita along with one of Rabb/Commanche/Moore/Labaissere? would be a great big man class. MCI you are a little delusional if you believe we will land two of the one and done bigs................ I forgot Stone and Ellerson............. Most of the bigs will have decided before the NCAA tournament next year, no? People holding out to sign until April are pretty rare cases like Miles Turner. Most of the '15 guys will make their decisions fall of '14 and maybe a couple will decide early spring I think. I do think it would be nice if the Frosh establish themselves as forces early in the year so that '15 bigs will know they are surrounded with talent when they decide in fall '14. One and done guys would be great. but we need the mid-ranked guys too. If we could replicate the Monroe-Sims big class every year that's ideal. But that class was coming off a final four. JT3 is going to have to work really hard to dig out of this hole we're in due to past NCAA tournament performances. Getting a guy like Rabb or Comanche would be amazing, but right now, I'd be pretty happy with getting just one out of Kapita, Dickerson, and Govan. That would feel like a recruiting victory to me, and I think with the forwards we have coming in, it wold work out fine on the court....
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Post by MCIGuy on Apr 13, 2014 13:22:00 GMT -5
What are you even talking about? Some say GU winning another championship isn't realistic either. Maybe the coaches shouldn't have such lofty goals then if it is all about the outside perception (including apparently by its own fans) of what is realistic and what isn't. Perhaps it is time for Gtown as a program to throw in the title and accept their lot as a small time program with no big ambitions. If they scale back on who they recruit they might as well scale about on any "fantastical" dreams regarding national a title, too. Especially considering since 1984 the program has had much better success in recruiting top tier big men than it has in winning NCAA championships. Let me spell it out for you. Many fans on this board still have high hopes of Gtown winning a national championship if certain factors come together. But many fans also think it is "unrealistic" to pursue the top tier recruits, especially big men. Well, which one is less realistic or has less chances of happening? Winning a title or bringing in a top tier big? The last time I checked the Hoyas haven't won a title since 1984. But since then the same program has brought in Alonzo Mourning, Othella Harrington, Vernon Macklin and Greg Monroe. Granted not all four of those guys lived up to expectations but all four very very highly regarded bigs who were chosen for the McDAA game. So how come some of the same folks who think it is realistic for the Hoyas to win another national title so long as they get a quality big (three to four star) to go along with DSR and Co are some of the same people who think it is unrealistic for the Hoyas to reel in a five star big man? Haven't the Hoyas had more success doing the latter than the former?
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Post by MCIGuy on Apr 13, 2014 13:23:14 GMT -5
Amazing how easily sarcasm flies over the heads of many... True that.
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Post by MCIGuy on Apr 13, 2014 13:34:14 GMT -5
At least one win but Sweet16/Elite8 could seal the deal with one of the '15 crop of bigs. But that requires us getting one of the 4star bigs also. Dickerson, Govan, or Kapita along with one of Rabb/Commanche/Moore/Labaissere? would be a great big man class. MCI you are a little delusional if you believe we will land two of the one and done bigs................ Never said the Hoyas is likely to get two of those five star guys. Never said the Hoyas were even likely to get one of them. In fact last time I checked I don't recall suggesting putting a lot of early focus on the more lower-tier bigs is a bad idea either. But what irks me are the people who claim it is unrealistic to even consider that those five star big men would pick Gtown in the first place. You can go ahead and call it realistic all you want simply because the numbers/odds back one up on that end. But it still rings as a defeatist attitude. How many times on this board do Hoya fans write something about how Gtown can return to the Final Four if one or two particular recruits (not necessarily five star guys either) pick the Hoyas and/or if one of the current star players for the Hoyas returns for another season? That is mentioned a lot in my view. Yet there may be more top tier big men available for teams recruiting in a particular year than there are slots/spaces available for teams trying to get to the Final Four. So if we are going to dream big about the FF why not do the same for the idea of attracting an elite big man?
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Post by EtomicB on Apr 13, 2014 15:07:44 GMT -5
What are you even talking about? Let me spell it out for you. Many fans on this board still have high hopes of Gtown winning a national championship if certain factors come together. But many fans also think it is "unrealistic" to pursue the top tier recruits, especially big men. Well, which one is less realistic or has less chances of happening? Winning a title or bringing in a top tier big? The last time I checked the Hoyas haven't won a title since 1984. But since then the same program has brought in Alonzo Mourning, Othella Harrington, Vernon Macklin and Greg Monroe. Granted not all four of those guys lived up to expectations but all four very very highly regarded bigs who were chosen for the McDAA game. So how come some of the same folks who think it is realistic for the Hoyas to win another national title so long as they get a quality big (three to four star) to go along with DSR and Co are some of the same people who think it is unrealistic for the Hoyas to reel in a five star big man? Haven't the Hoyas had more success doing the latter than the former? This analogy of yours is silly MCI.. Programs can win without dominant bigs and I know you know that but getting good bigs is very important too and I do know that.. Realistically, Who does the staff have a better chance of getting Rabb or Dickerson? How about between Govan or Comanche? What's your opinion on this? I never said the staff shouldn't continue to recruit ELITE players like Rabb or Comanche or Stone, the staff should definitely go after them.. I just feel it's important to show GOOD players like Noah, Jessie, Kapita ect that they're important too.. This is a strategy JT3 has neglected in the recent past in my opinion.. Did I want the staff to monitor/pursue DelaRosa and others who were still available in 2014 absolutely given the fact that the program needs bigs, I don't see what's wrong with that.. However that doesn't mean I only want them to chase lower tiered guys so you can stop posting that point to help make your argument..
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Post by MCIGuy on Apr 13, 2014 20:40:05 GMT -5
Let me spell it out for you. Many fans on this board still have high hopes of Gtown winning a national championship if certain factors come together. But many fans also think it is "unrealistic" to pursue the top tier recruits, especially big men. Well, which one is less realistic or has less chances of happening? Winning a title or bringing in a top tier big? The last time I checked the Hoyas haven't won a title since 1984. But since then the same program has brought in Alonzo Mourning, Othella Harrington, Vernon Macklin and Greg Monroe. Granted not all four of those guys lived up to expectations but all four very very highly regarded bigs who were chosen for the McDAA game. So how come some of the same folks who think it is realistic for the Hoyas to win another national title so long as they get a quality big (three to four star) to go along with DSR and Co are some of the same people who think it is unrealistic for the Hoyas to reel in a five star big man? Haven't the Hoyas had more success doing the latter than the former? This analogy of yours is silly MCI.. Programs can win without dominant bigs You missed my point which was the Hoyas chances of getting an elite big are no less than their chances of winning a national title Realistically which do you think will happen first for the Hoyas in the future: winning a title or continuing a tradition of attaining the signature of an elite big man? Give me your opinion because this is the crux of my argument. We will agree to disagree on that last point because I'm of the opinion III whiffed on the lower tier big man recruits as well during the past few seasons. And I never brought up whether or not you didn't think III should not pursue elite big men. My contention is that you claimed doing so was ultimately unrealistic. Again...agree to disagree. No need to go down that road again. Where we differed there was over the assumption that ADR was a must get or at least a very important get.
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Post by EtomicB on Apr 14, 2014 0:12:19 GMT -5
Let me spell it out for you. Many fans on this board still have high hopes of Gtown winning a national championship if certain factors come together. But many fans also think it is "unrealistic" to pursue the top tier recruits, especially big men. Well, which one is less realistic or has less chances of happening? Winning a title or bringing in a top tier big? The last time I checked the Hoyas haven't won a title since 1984. But since then the same program has brought in Alonzo Mourning, Othella Harrington, Vernon Macklin and Greg Monroe. Granted not all four of those guys lived up to expectations but all four very very highly regarded bigs who were chosen for the McDAA game. So how come some of the same folks who think it is realistic for the Hoyas to win another national title so long as they get a quality big (three to four star) to go along with DSR and Co are some of the same people who think it is unrealistic for the Hoyas to reel in a five star big man? Haven't the Hoyas had more success doing the latter than the former? This analogy of yours is silly MCI.. Programs can win without dominant bigs and I know you know that but getting good bigs is very important too and I do know that.. Realistically, Who does the staff have a better chance of getting Rabb or Dickerson? How about between Govan or Comanche? What's your opinion on this? I never said the staff shouldn't continue to recruit ELITE players like Rabb or Comanche or Stone, the staff should definitely go after them.. I just feel it's important to show GOOD players like Noah, Jessie, Kapita ect that they're important too.. This is a strategy JT3 has neglected in the recent past in my opinion.. Did I want the staff to monitor/pursue DelaRosa and others who were still available in 2014 absolutely given the fact that the program needs bigs, I don't see what's wrong with that.. However that doesn't mean I only want them to chase lower tiered guys so you can stop posting that point to help make your argument.. I can agree to disagree MCI, in the end I'm sure we both want to see the same thing which is G'town on top so it's all good to me..
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Post by birdman on Apr 14, 2014 6:11:50 GMT -5
Amazing how easily sarcasm flies over the heads of many...
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Post by SFHoya99 on Apr 14, 2014 12:50:56 GMT -5
This is why Domingo leaving is actually a good thing.
The staff needs to be able to pursue and sign both Elite Bigs and Very Good Bigs (I refuse to call some of the guys we are recruiting backups). Even if we were to sign Rabb, I'd want to sign someone else, b/c he'll be gone quickly. And if we miss, which there's a good chance we will, we absolutely cannot be left with HAL-level play again.
HAL actually wasn't bad by recruiting rankings, but it's worth noting that's why you need to recruit heavily. Sometimes stuff doesn't work out. Having an extra schollie means we can recruit a Dickerson and others without any concern and still pursue Rabb, Comanche without having to tell a recruit to "wait."
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Post by hoyarooter on Apr 14, 2014 21:02:20 GMT -5
This is why Domingo leaving is actually a good thing. The staff needs to be able to pursue and sign both Elite Bigs and Very Good Bigs (I refuse to call some of the guys we are recruiting backups). Even if we were to sign Rabb, I'd want to sign someone else, b/c he'll be gone quickly. And if we miss, which there's a good chance we will, we absolutely cannot be left with HAL-level play again. HAL actually wasn't bad by recruiting rankings, but it's worth noting that's why you need to recruit heavily. Sometimes stuff doesn't work out. Having an extra schollie means we can recruit a Dickerson and others without any concern and still pursue Rabb, Comanche without having to tell a recruit to "wait." HAL, huh? Now Thus Spack Zarathustra has begun playing in my head. The problem with HAL is that none of them developed much beyond the level they were at when we recruited them. You would hope that at least one of them would have made a jump. I think the closest was L, except that he just wouldn't shoot and as a result didn't score.
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Post by hoyainspirit on Apr 14, 2014 23:25:29 GMT -5
HAL, huh? Now Thus Spack Zarathustra has begun playing in my head. The Deodato version of the part used as the 2001 theme was killer back in the day.
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Post by EtomicB on Apr 21, 2014 20:45:25 GMT -5
Sharma took an early January visit to Wisconsin and the interest has taken off from there. "Interest has picked up, especially after I took my first official visit to Wisconsin," Sharma told Rivals.com. "Illinois offered and then I talked to Florida, Indiana, Gonzaga and Creighton offered. "I really like Wisconsin, Illinois, Vanderbilt and a few other schools. I'm talking to Creighton a lot, too. Boston College is recruiting me a lot and I like them, too. They are in the mix." You're feelin this Sharma kid huh Yaboy? I wish the staff had made a play for him too, his recruitment is definitely taking off.. I'd like to see the staff get more involved in New England both Mass Rivals & BABC run solid programs that produce good players. Not to mention the prep schools here have a lot of young talent coming thru them in the next few years. Kansas just offered Jalen Adams from Cushing Academy, young dude is the truth for real.. Rivals Nation @rivalsnation 15m Duke, Georgetown, Virginia and Wisconsin all at Northfield Mount Herman to see Josh Sharma today. @josharma42 Good look right here.. Mentioned him awhile back, Kid has some upside
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Post by EtomicB on May 9, 2014 18:45:47 GMT -5
Jeff Goodman @goodmanespn 1h Boston College commit Jeremy Miller told ESPN he has re-opened his recruitment. Committed to Steve Donahue and previous staff.
The staff should inquire, he plays on T. Mann's aau squad BABC.. 6-10 PF/C The kid can play..
He's #34 in this clip..
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