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Post by Deleted on May 17, 2014 16:38:00 GMT -5
Big time coast to coast and 1 from Mann...
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Post by Deleted on May 17, 2014 16:48:29 GMT -5
Mann looking real good out there.. When he plays aggressive he’s a really tough cover and once again looking more and more comfy running the show… Like what I’m seeing right now.. I love his skill set. Saw one play where he dribbled through a maze of players, so I think he has the handle. But then he had a turnover where he drove, got trapped in the air and stripped. So I think he still needs some work on PG decision making but that will come with experience playing the position. Also, that banked free throw? He's not exactly Trier at the FT line. But overall, looks like a great prospect. Still don't really understand why it's taking him so long to decide. Makes me think there's something holding him back from coming to Gtown...
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Post by daymondmyles on May 17, 2014 18:46:16 GMT -5
247 reporting that our recruiting on him has cooled. He said he hasn't heard much from us lately.
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Post by FrazierFanatic on May 17, 2014 19:41:45 GMT -5
247 reporting that our recruting on him has cooled. He said he hasn't heard much from us lately Maybe we have good vibes about someone higher up the chain?
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Post by IDenj on May 17, 2014 19:44:02 GMT -5
I thought B and G said Mann knows exactly where he stands with our staff.
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Post by EtomicB on May 17, 2014 19:50:53 GMT -5
247 reporting that our recruting on him has cooled. He said he hasn't heard much from us lately Figured this to be the case when Blue posted that the staff was being "highly" selective with who they bring in at guard, I took that to mean only certain kids have committable offers right now @ the guard spot.. I think it's a big mistake to lose sight of T. Mann though, his game would mesh very well into JT3's system
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Post by Deleted on May 17, 2014 23:00:34 GMT -5
Yeah hard to fault them for that due to the limited amount of schollies and his inconsistent play, but if today is any indication he’s trending back ^^^
Had 16 5 and 4 in the late game...
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Post by EtomicB on May 18, 2014 8:49:32 GMT -5
Yeah hard to fault them for that due to the limited amount of schollies and his inconsistent play, but if today is any indication he’s trending back ^^^ Had 16 5 and 4 in the late game... The staff is all over Trier(with good reason) and seem to be heavily involved with Reaves & Bacon too but after that who else is there that's not a question mark in some way? It seems they really want Roddy Peters but he's not a lock at all, I like Crawford a lot but the staff has to know he's more than likely going elsewhere, same for Dozier.. Love Ray Smith but he's not a ball handler type which is a big need, We haven't heard much about Jalen Coleman & G'town lately.. My point is it's wayy too soon to cool off on recruiting a kid like Mann, what's the harm in staying in contact with him? It has to be mentioned that this flurry of recruiting success came partly because the staff was making moves on a number of kids which created a sense of urgency with them, why not create the same scenario for the guard prospects?
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Post by Deleted on May 18, 2014 9:07:48 GMT -5
Well we don’t know what the specifics are but my guess is that 90% of their focus has been on the frontcourt up until now sans Uber prospects like Smith and Trier. Reaves is local so his recruitment is easy.
I like Mann but you can’t be everywhere at once and him playing 6’5 SF, which he’s been up until this point, with limited shooting ability isn’t really a need right now. Hopefully his playing of the point in EYBL opens up some eyes but I do think it’s smart to be very selective with who you fill those last 2 roster spots.
That being said time will tell and you may be right. Then again they might reach out this week after hearing about his play this weekend. You never know with recruiting haha
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Post by blueandgray on May 18, 2014 9:33:40 GMT -5
Well we don’t know what the specifics are but my guess is that 90% of their focus has been on the frontcourt up until now sans Uber prospects like Smith and Trier. Reaves is local so his recruitment is easy. I like Mann but you can’t be everywhere at once and him playing 6’5 SF, which he’s been up until this point, with limited shooting ability isn’t really a need right now. Hopefully his playing of the point in EYBL opens up some eyes but I do think it’s smart to be very selective with who you fill those last 2 roster spots. That being said time will tell and you may be right. Then again they might reach out this week after hearing about his play this weekend. You never know with recruiting haha This. At this juncture staff can afford to be highly selective as playing with the crew of incoming recruits is very attractive to many top prospects. With regard to Peters, if anything, it's he who would want to be a Hoya...again, staff isn't just taking the first kid that says yes. The mentality is changing and it must if we want a National Championship.
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Post by Talos on May 18, 2014 10:09:05 GMT -5
Well we don’t know what the specifics are but my guess is that 90% of their focus has been on the frontcourt up until now sans Uber prospects like Smith and Trier. Reaves is local so his recruitment is easy. I like Mann but you can’t be everywhere at once and him playing 6’5 SF, which he’s been up until this point, with limited shooting ability isn’t really a need right now. Hopefully his playing of the point in EYBL opens up some eyes but I do think it’s smart to be very selective with who you fill those last 2 roster spots. That being said time will tell and you may be right. Then again they might reach out this week after hearing about his play this weekend. You never know with recruiting haha This. At this juncture staff can afford to be highly selective as playing with the crew of incoming recruits is very attractive to many top prospects. With regard to Peters, if anything, it's he who would want to be a Hoya...again, staff isn't just taking the first kid that says yes. The mentality is changing and it must if we want a National Championship. Thanks. Question: should we as fans be happy thinking this is a sign we have a great shot at one of the top tier guards (Trier, Dozier, Bacon), or should we be worried if we miss on the top tier we'll also miss on the second tier also for not showing them the love?
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Post by EtomicB on May 18, 2014 11:13:52 GMT -5
Well we don’t know what the specifics are but my guess is that 90% of their focus has been on the frontcourt up until now sans Uber prospects like Smith and Trier. Reaves is local so his recruitment is easy. I like Mann but you can’t be everywhere at once and him playing 6’5 SF, which he’s been up until this point, with limited shooting ability isn’t really a need right now. Hopefully his playing of the point in EYBL opens up some eyes but I do think it’s smart to be very selective with who you fill those last 2 roster spots. That being said time will tell and you may be right. Then again they might reach out this week after hearing about his play this weekend. You never know with recruiting haha This. At this juncture staff can afford to be highly selective as playing with the crew of incoming recruits is very attractive to many top prospects. With regard to Peters, if anything, it's he who would want to be a Hoya...again, staff isn't just taking the first kid that says yes. The mentality is changing and it must if we want a National Championship. I also think it's smart to be selective but you can still drop a line to a kid to let him know you're still interested, if he wants to commit just be honest & say "not at this time".. Being selective should be much more about who you'll take, not so much about who you're recruiting imho..
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Post by blueandgray on May 18, 2014 11:16:09 GMT -5
We have a good shot at landing a top tier guy...and have to give ourselves the opportunity to let it play itself out.
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Post by SirSaxa on May 18, 2014 12:00:06 GMT -5
Question: should we as fans be happy thinking this is a sign we have a great shot at one of the top tier guards (Trier, Dozier, Bacon), or should we be worried if we miss on the top tier we'll also miss on the second tier also for not showing them the love? There's always a bit of poker playing in recruiting. Nothing wrong with that. However, at this point it would appear JT3 is playing with a pretty strong hand!
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Post by hoyajmw on May 18, 2014 12:43:30 GMT -5
I had never seen Mann until yesterday (drove to the EYBL Saturday in Hampton), and came away extremely impressed - I hope we haven't given up on him (esp. as I think Trier is probably a long shot). I think he is close to a legit 6'5" (see, contra, Trier being exagerrated by a few inches) with a real pro build on him already that he used to get inside and finish strong; in the couple halfs of ball I saw him play was looking to pass first/had a good sense of/vision on the court (could "see over the zone" to invoke the hoary cliche); and buried one loong two from the corner right in front of me that was a thing of beauty to watch (after emerging with the ball from a scrum underneath, sort of had this "ah, what the heck" nonchalance to it...) Reminded me a lot of James Robinson (Pittsburgh via Dematha) in terms of a game that isn't terribly flashy but very much a commanding presence...
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Post by FrazierFanatic on May 18, 2014 12:49:55 GMT -5
This. At this juncture staff can afford to be highly selective as playing with the crew of incoming recruits is very attractive to many top prospects. With regard to Peters, if anything, it's he who would want to be a Hoya...again, staff isn't just taking the first kid that says yes. The mentality is changing and it must if we want a National Championship. I also think it's smart to be selective but you can still drop a line to a kid to let him know you're still interested, if he wants to commit just be honest & say "not at this time".. Being selective should be much more about who you'll take, not so much about who you're recruiting imho.. Isn't this essentially what we are doing? He has not heard "much" from us - does not say he has heard "nothing" from us. He has an offer; what are the guidelines? Can he accept that offer tomorrow, then put us in the awkward position of withdrawing the offer after the fact so we can wait on higher rated kids? Or does he contact the staff to tell them he wants to accept, giving us the chance to table the offer before it is actually accepted?
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Post by Deleted on May 18, 2014 14:28:09 GMT -5
Corey Evans @coreyevans_10 1m Good matchup on court over between Allonzo Trier and Terance Mann. Two high level scorers of the ball with size
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Post by EtomicB on May 18, 2014 15:35:24 GMT -5
I also think it's smart to be selective but you can still drop a line to a kid to let him know you're still interested, if he wants to commit just be honest & say "not at this time".. Being selective should be much more about who you'll take, not so much about who you're recruiting imho.. Isn't this essentially what we are doing? He has not heard "much" from us - does not say he has heard "nothing" from us. He has an offer; what are the guidelines? Can he accept that offer tomorrow, then put us in the awkward position of withdrawing the offer after the fact so we can wait on higher rated kids? Or does he contact the staff to tell them he wants to accept, giving us the chance to table the offer before it is actually accepted? Mann said he hasn't heard "much lately" Frazier, that's a big difference from not hearing much.. I read it to mean he was hearing from the staff but now he's not..
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Post by MCIGuy on May 18, 2014 16:29:39 GMT -5
I would love to have Mann. But he was offered a schollie almost a lifetime ago (way before Reaves and maybe even before Trier) and he did not bite. The word was he was a GU lean and simply was waiting on the official offer. Well, he got it and all that came afterwards was the sound of crickets. If the Hoya staff, and I'm not saying this is the case, has their attention focused more on other guys whose fault is that? Mann could have locked up one scholarship back in the fall. He chose not to commit. Meanwhile a dude like Jessie Govan can read the tea leaves and pulls the trigger because he doesn't want to be left without a chair once the music stops.
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Post by dense on May 18, 2014 20:15:49 GMT -5
I would love to have Mann. But he was offered a schollie almost a lifetime ago (way before Reaves and maybe even before Trier) and he did not bite. The word was he was a GU lean and simply was waiting on the official offer. Well, he got it and all that came afterwards was the sound of crickets. If the Hoya staff, and I'm not saying this is the case, has their attention focused more on other guys whose fault is that? Mann could have locked up one scholarship back in the fall. He chose not to commit. Meanwhile a dude like Jessie Govan can read the tea leaves and pulls the trigger because he doesn't want to be left without a chair once the music stops. Yup. Govan played the game right. He knew Egbunu could pull the trigger and take away a place he really wanted to go to but if he waited wouldn't have been there after Dickerson committed. Trier and Rabb are holding up these last two spots gotta hold out. I'm sure we will have a better idea once Rabb comes by where we are.
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