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Post by glidehoyas (Inactive) on Apr 5, 2013 12:20:46 GMT -5
Otto's is a top 5 pick he's going to go pro... The Hoyas will be more of a team instead everyone singling Otto out all the time...Otto was a team players big time, but as the season wore down I think the hype may have gotten to him a bit ..idk just saying ...maybe he was burned out...after all he was playing at a very high level with Greg being out...it was almost doing two jobs at once, like Jason did last season...he was burned out at the end because he had to cover for Starks because he wasn't ready yet ...
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Post by Boz on Apr 5, 2013 12:25:54 GMT -5
Cover for Starks?
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Post by HometownHoya on Apr 5, 2013 12:48:48 GMT -5
I think he is referring to JC being SG and PG last year.
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Post by DudeSlade on Apr 5, 2013 13:14:45 GMT -5
Keep in mind we don't get Smith til the 2nd semester. Perfect for the conference schedule, but know that the team will look much different 2nd semester than 1st semester. That alone should tamper our pre-season rankings expectations.
I fully expect Otto to go, because just like Jeff Green, the all-around game he brings is not one that lends itself to a sudden shot to #1 overall pick, because he won't suddenly start showing off-the-charts athleticism (which seems to be what NBA teams want at #1) -- so take the top 5 pick and go be a boss in the NBA. Fully expecting him to be a long-term starter and possible all-star in the NBA, though the league is full of great wing forwards right now.
I also expect Greg to step into Otto's role next year and keep us at a high level (maybe not quite Otto level, but definitely all-conference level is possible). The difference hopefully on next year's team is better overall team shooting -- Starks keeps getting better, trawick improves, Greg re-finds his stroke, and Domingo finds his prep stroke and gets a lot more run -- plus improved interior play from Moses, Hopkins, Lubbick, and eventually the addition of Smith, which could change the team's focus dramatically mid-season.
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Post by skyhoya on Apr 5, 2013 14:10:35 GMT -5
all speculation, , not sure Whit will be eligible and not sure Otto will come out, he could be another Roy . Roy stayed an he dropped a little in the draft, but in the end he got a max contract after proving himself.
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Post by rockhoya on Apr 5, 2013 14:29:10 GMT -5
all speculation, , not sure Whit will be eligible and not sure Otto will come out, he could be another Roy . Roy stayed an he dropped a little in the draft, but in the end he got a max contract after proving himself. I just don't see how this is allowed yet when I post truth about Whitt my threads get blocked...smh this board
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Post by FrazierFanatic on Apr 5, 2013 15:00:30 GMT -5
all speculation, , not sure Whit will be eligible and not sure Otto will come out, he could be another Roy . Roy stayed an he dropped a little in the draft, but in the end he got a max contract after proving himself. I just don't see how this is allowed yet when I post truth about Whitt my threads get blocked...smh this board ? Why shouldn't it be allowed? Because he said not sure Whit will be eligible? All any of us - yes ANY of us - knows is that Whit was ineligible this past semester. There has been no announcement whether or not he has regained eligibility. We don't know - just what sky said.
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Post by Ranch Dressing on Apr 5, 2013 16:11:26 GMT -5
Yeah, because that's the kind of news that would tend to get hidden on Page 4... You are not a troll, Ranch, but you ARE trolling. And I'm pretty sure you know it. No offense to Ranch who is one of our best contributors, but this is like those annoying Kenner League season posts. A few times during that part of the schedule you can count on someone, like fifteen minutes after a day of KL action has ended, click on to this site, look around a bit and ask in exasperation : Did anyone check out any of the games today? Can you please provide details?They ask these questions as if it will automatically trigger a wanted response from some uncooperative folks who just so happened to watch KL action that day but were adamant about keeping the secretive information all to themselves. Ugh. Drives me nuts because there has rarely if ever been a day of Hoyas playing in the Kenner League in which none of our posters don't eventually share some details. But considering none of these posters are getting paid to provide any reporting of these summer league games, there aren't any deadlines they must meet either. They will do so on their schedule, not ours. They will get around to providing the breakdown as soon as they are rested and ready. No need to beg to speed up the process. Pet peeve. ;D Love ya MCI. Just to put some context around it, after the FGCU loss, I literally did not come to the board for almost 2 weeks. I spent a lot of time searching the front two pages for anything related to Otto's departure. I didn't find anything, so I thought I would throw out a line to my bestest hoyatalk buddies. Was not intending to troll for rumor and inuendo, but can see why people construed it that way. I'm glad he has not delared immediately. I suppose the longer the decision takes the chances increase for a return (although I peg that at close to zero today).
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Post by MCIGuy on Apr 5, 2013 16:48:49 GMT -5
No offense to Ranch who is one of our best contributors, but this is like those annoying Kenner League season posts. A few times during that part of the schedule you can count on someone, like fifteen minutes after a day of KL action has ended, click on to this site, look around a bit and ask in exasperation : Did anyone check out any of the games today? Can you please provide details?They ask these questions as if it will automatically trigger a wanted response from some uncooperative folks who just so happened to watch KL action that day but were adamant about keeping the secretive information all to themselves. Ugh. Drives me nuts because there has rarely if ever been a day of Hoyas playing in the Kenner League in which none of our posters don't eventually share some details. But considering none of these posters are getting paid to provide any reporting of these summer league games, there aren't any deadlines they must meet either. They will do so on their schedule, not ours. They will get around to providing the breakdown as soon as they are rested and ready. No need to beg to speed up the process. Pet peeve. ;D Love ya MCI. Just to put some context around it, after the FGCU loss, I literally did not come to the board for almost 2 weeks. I spent a lot of time searching the front two pages for anything related to Otto's departure. I didn't find anything, so I thought I would throw out a line to my bestest hoyatalk buddies. Ranch, just to clear things up I didn't write the post about you trolling. I did the followup response/rant about KL posts instead.
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Post by skyhoya on Apr 5, 2013 16:51:30 GMT -5
all speculation, , not sure Whit will be eligible and not sure Otto will come out, he could be another Roy . Roy stayed an he dropped a little in the draft, but in the end he got a max contract after proving himself. I just don't see how this is allowed yet when I post truth about Whitt my threads get blocked...smh this board Everyone is talking like Whit is coming back, the same thing happened to my daughter and it took 2 semester at Villanova for her to make academic progress to play. Not everyone is a rocket scientist, some people only become lawyers. Cut the kid some slack. This board puts too much pressure on these kids.
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Post by rockhoya on Apr 5, 2013 17:24:49 GMT -5
I just don't see how this is allowed yet when I post truth about Whitt my threads get blocked...smh this board ? Why shouldn't it be allowed? Because he said not sure Whit will be eligible? All any of us - yes ANY of us - knows is that Whit was ineligible this past semester. There has been no announcement whether or not he has regained eligibility. We don't know - just what sky said. Don't include me in that "we" please. You know what you know (which is apparently nothing) and I know what I know. Don't get those two mixed up. As for why it wouldn't be allowed is because it is speculation either way. In this case it's speculation contrary to what the staff has relayed to others.
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Post by professorhoya on Apr 5, 2013 21:27:30 GMT -5
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Post by lichoya68 on Apr 6, 2013 8:19:08 GMT -5
Hope whit back hope otto back then we can dream of a final four YUP just saying go hoyas
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Post by hoyas1995 on Apr 6, 2013 10:04:57 GMT -5
Otto + Smith (+Whit) = Preseason #1 and NC baby!!!!! (Hope does spring eternal) He's gone, but do you really think the Hoyas would have a shot a preseason #1 if he was coming back (which he isn't)? I think they'd be tail end of top 10 in the rankings - that's not to say they wouldn't deserve to be #1, but I do think the end-season losses make us kind of forgotten at the start of each season. Anyway, fun to dream. I still wonder how great the 2007-08 team would have been had Green stayed. That's college hoops these days, I guess. On a similar note, how good could the 09-10 team have been had Summers stayed for his senior year?
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Post by rockhoya on Apr 6, 2013 10:09:02 GMT -5
I just don't see how this is allowed yet when I post truth about Whitt my threads get blocked...smh this board Everyone is talking like Whit is coming back, the same thing happened to my daughter and it took 2 semester at Villanova for her to make academic progress to play. Not everyone is a rocket scientist, some people only become lawyers. Cut the kid some slack. This board puts too much pressure on these kids. Really? Your daughter violated the rule on insufficient academic progress?
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Post by hoya9797 on Apr 6, 2013 10:10:14 GMT -5
It's tough to overcome bad genes.
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Post by FrazierFanatic on Apr 6, 2013 10:54:04 GMT -5
? Why shouldn't it be allowed? Because he said not sure Whit will be eligible? All any of us - yes ANY of us - knows is that Whit was ineligible this past semester. There has been no announcement whether or not he has regained eligibility. We don't know - just what sky said. Don't include me in that "we" please. You know what you know (which is apparently nothing) and I know what I know. Don't get those two mixed up. As for why it wouldn't be allowed is because it is speculation either way. In this case it's speculation contrary to what the staff has relayed to others. I believe the board requires confirmation from an OFFICIAL source, not just a self-professed insider. So when you become an official source, your info will be enough by itself. It's very simple.
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Post by skyhoya on Apr 6, 2013 11:22:22 GMT -5
Everyone is talking like Whit is coming back, the same thing happened to my daughter and it took 2 semester at Villanova for her to make academic progress to play. Not everyone is a rocket scientist, some people only become lawyers. Cut the kid some slack. This board puts too much pressure on these kids. Really? Your daughter violated the rule on insufficient academic progress? yes, she changed her major4 from rocket scientist to pre law. sitting out a year might have helped her, as she made all American the next year
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Post by guru on Apr 6, 2013 11:39:54 GMT -5
Really? Your daughter violated the rule on insufficient academic progress? yes, she changed her major4 from rocket scientist to pre law. sitting out a year might have helped her, as she made all American the next year Why do you continue to post? No one wants to read your tripe. Can't you find another board to infest? you could really use a fresh start, plus you'll get s little grace period before everyone realizes what a bitter lunatic you are.
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Post by strummer8526 on Apr 6, 2013 11:47:35 GMT -5
Villanova has a rocket science program? Advantage: North Korea.
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