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Post by TrueHoyaBlue on Feb 28, 2013 10:05:37 GMT -5
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Post by westendhoya on Feb 28, 2013 10:12:51 GMT -5
We now have 5 top 50 RPI road/neutral wins...Pretty impressive
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Post by TBird41 on Feb 28, 2013 10:32:17 GMT -5
We now have 5 top 50 RPI road/neutral wins...Pretty impressive And we're going to have the chance to get a few more. Nova is at 55 right now, and the BET will feature 5 other teams in the top 40.
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Post by This Just In on Mar 1, 2013 8:38:32 GMT -5
With all the top teams losing, the Hoyas are definitely now in line for a #1 seed
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Post by ColumbiaHeightsHoya on Mar 1, 2013 9:04:44 GMT -5
IU & Gonzaga are likely locks for top seeds. Kansas is probably the third as their conference is garbage and they probably don't lose again. That leaves us against the ACC. If Duke beats Miami, that would drop those teams behind us in the rankings and we would likely control our own destiny.
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Post by Air Jordan on Mar 1, 2013 9:42:44 GMT -5
Duke lost to Virginia last night, hhmmmm one has to wonder
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Post by rockhoya on Mar 1, 2013 9:46:29 GMT -5
IU is not a lock if they lose in the B10 tourney and Gonzaga probably won't end up a 1 if they lose
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Post by bmartin on Mar 1, 2013 9:59:44 GMT -5
If IU @ Indy, Gonzaga in LA, and no Georgetown in DC, then that leaves Georgetown as the 1 or 2 in the Cowboys Stadium regional or the 2 seed in Indy or LA.
There appear to be 10 teams in play for the 8 1 & 2 seeds:
Figure either Duke or Miami as the 1 or 2 in the Verizon Center regional. Kansas & Florida in play for 1 seeds in DC or TX or 2 anywhere. MSU & Michigan are 2s or a 2 & a 3, not in Indy. Louisville could play into a 2 seed with a BET run.
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Post by Big Dog on Mar 1, 2013 10:21:03 GMT -5
IU is not a lock if they lose in the B10 tourney and Gonzaga probably won't end up a 1 if they lose If IU loses only once more, they're getting a 1 seed.
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Post by Big Dog on Mar 1, 2013 10:28:54 GMT -5
Anyway, we're going to get a 1 seed if we don't lose again. With our road/neutral record and what would be a 16 game winning streak, we're there. If we lose one time, I think we're probably looking at a 2, although we could still grab a 1 depending on circumstances if the loss comes at Nova or home to Cuse but we proceed to win the BET. 2 or 3 losses, probably a 3, though if the second loss is in the BET final, maybe we hold a 2.
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Post by Big Dog on Mar 1, 2013 10:32:00 GMT -5
Not buying it...I don't believe a thing Nate Silver says.
Sincerely, Karl Rove Now that's a good one, hoyaboya I realize I'm only attacking an example and not the argument, but as Silver points out, that ND team didn't have any pro-type players. I think our situation this season is very unusual and unique in that normally a team with a player like Porter would have been ranked early in the year. For some reason, Porter--and therefore the Hoyas--did not get appropriate respect and attention for what he did last season (except maybe from NBA scouts). I would love to see how many times a team with the eventual Wooden Award winner wasn't ranked in the preseason.
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Post by bigelephant on Mar 1, 2013 10:33:04 GMT -5
Conjecture is fun - BUT lets win the BE Reg and the BE tourney and then talk about #1 seed. Premature talk IMHO is a jinx and a disaster waiting to happen. If you think Jimmy B talking about Otto is nice - believe me he is a master manipulator . It's all "woe is us - how can we possibly win at your house when you have the country's Player of the Year " - all the while the little schemer (sp?) is planning a box and one or some other stuff. Let's focus on the NEXT game!
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Post by ColumbiaHeightsHoya on Mar 1, 2013 10:42:28 GMT -5
While a #1 seed is always important, with the parity this year, there could easily be zero or one #1's making it to the final four. I hope we are the one or two with Duke as the opposite in our bracket. We can take them out as they are subpar on the road.
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Post by SFHoya99 on Mar 1, 2013 10:43:08 GMT -5
Now that's a good one, hoyaboya I realize I'm only attacking an example and not the argument, but as Silver points out, that ND team didn't have any pro-type players. I think our situation this season is very unusual and unique in that normally a team with a player like Porter would have been ranked early in the year. For some reason, Porter--and therefore the Hoyas--did not get appropriate respect and attention for what he did last season (except maybe from NBA scouts). I would love to see how many times a team with the eventual Wooden Award winner wasn't ranked in the preseason. Yeah, there's likely a lot of covariance on these arguments. My personal theory is this: you need strong talent to play skilled ball together as a team (coaching). Somewhere in that field of 68, one of the talented teams is going to be well-coached and is going to be playing well. So teams that aren't that talented but are well coached and playing well will eventually run into a team just as well-coached, but simply more talented. It's talent that guides pre-season predictions, and that's why the pre-season poll does well with Final Four/Champ predictions. That's why Maryland in 2002 is the last team to win without a McD AA or the champion usually has 2-3 NBA players. It's all ways to say that the champion usually has a lot of talent on their team. Plenty of talented teams don't come close to winning, of course, and that's where the other half comes in. Do the Hoyas have enough talent? I don't know. Otto is special, but I'm not sure there's another NBA player that can suit up (both Whit and Smith can make it). But our supporting cast are very talented -- in a couple of cases the reason why they aren't big NBA prospects is merely size (if Markel's 6'5", he's a huge prospect). And Butler came within a shot with really one NBA player that stuck (Mack).
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Post by Air Jordan on Mar 1, 2013 10:50:14 GMT -5
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Post by williambraskyiii on Mar 1, 2013 10:52:27 GMT -5
Palm has us on the 1-line in the South in his latest bracket on cbssports, updated today.
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Post by FrazierFanatic on Mar 1, 2013 10:53:10 GMT -5
While a #1 seed is always important, with the parity this year, there could easily be zero or one #1's making it to the final four. I hope we are the one or two with Duke as the opposite in our bracket. We can take them out as they are subpar on the road. Won't happen. Duke will be a 1 or a 2 in the East, and we can't play at Verizon.
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Post by rpn6 on Mar 1, 2013 11:04:41 GMT -5
I realize I'm only attacking an example and not the argument, but as Silver points out, that ND team didn't have any pro-type players. I think our situation this season is very unusual and unique in that normally a team with a player like Porter would have been ranked early in the year. For some reason, Porter--and therefore the Hoyas--did not get appropriate respect and attention for what he did last season (except maybe from NBA scouts). I would love to see how many times a team with the eventual Wooden Award winner wasn't ranked in the preseason. Yeah, there's likely a lot of covariance on these arguments. My personal theory is this: you need strong talent to play skilled ball together as a team (coaching). Somewhere in that field of 68, one of the talented teams is going to be well-coached and is going to be playing well. So teams that aren't that talented but are well coached and playing well will eventually run into a team just as well-coached, but simply more talented. It's talent that guides pre-season predictions, and that's why the pre-season poll does well with Final Four/Champ predictions. That's why Maryland in 2002 is the last team to win without a McD AA or the champion usually has 2-3 NBA players. It's all ways to say that the champion usually has a lot of talent on their team. Plenty of talented teams don't come close to winning, of course, and that's where the other half comes in. Do the Hoyas have enough talent? I don't know. Otto is special, but I'm not sure there's another NBA player that can suit up (both Whit and Smith can make it). But our supporting cast are very talented -- in a couple of cases the reason why they aren't big NBA prospects is merely size (if Markel's 6'5", he's a huge prospect). And Butler came within a shot with really one NBA player that stuck (Mack). Uhh Gordon Heyward?
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Post by rockhoya on Mar 1, 2013 11:06:46 GMT -5
Ill gladly take Kansas too
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Post by Big Dog on Mar 1, 2013 11:08:48 GMT -5
We now have 5 top 50 RPI road/neutral wins...Pretty impressive Can anybody else match that?
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