hoyas1995
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Post by hoyas1995 on Feb 25, 2013 13:41:45 GMT -5
They played all (or almost all) of their games at the Pavilion, so Wells Fargo was not considered their home court. They did something similar in 2006, although they ended up in the Midwest bracket. That AU-Nova game was quite interesting: scores.espn.go.com/ncb/playbyplay?gameId=294000024(For the TL;DR crowd...AU was up 10 at the half and by double digits as late as 13 minutes left before Nova made a huge run and took the lead for good with about 8 mins left). Now why is that when we fall 14 points behind a #14 seed we end up losing by 14 points?
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Post by westendhoya on Feb 26, 2013 12:08:09 GMT -5
...per Joe Lunardi (http://insider.espn.go.com/mens-college-basketball/story/_/id/8988673/bracketology-several-teams-mix-no-1-seeds-college-basketball)
TEAM S-CURVE NO. 1 SEED ODDS Indiana No. 1 80 percent Duke No. 2 55 percent Gonzaga No. 3 35 percent Florida No. 4 45 percent Michigan No. 5 40 percent Kansas No. 6 40 percent Miami (FL) No. 7 35 percent Michigan St No. 8 25 percent Georgetown No. 9 15 percent Arizona No. 10 10 percent Louisville No. 11 15 percent FIELD -- 5 percent
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jgalt
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Post by jgalt on Feb 26, 2013 12:47:09 GMT -5
...per Joe Lunardi (http://insider.espn.go.com/mens-college-basketball/story/_/id/8988673/bracketology-several-teams-mix-no-1-seeds-college-basketball) TEAM S-CURVE NO. 1 SEED ODDS Indiana No. 1 80 percent Duke No. 2 55 percent Gonzaga No. 3 35 percent Florida No. 4 45 percent Michigan No. 5 40 percent Kansas No. 6 40 percent Miami (FL) No. 7 35 percent Michigan St No. 8 25 percent Georgetown No. 9 15 percent Arizona No. 10 10 percent Louisville No. 11 15 percent FIELD -- 5 percent The interesting thing (though it may not change the percentages), is the number of Big 10 teams. I believe Mich plays IU or MSU once more, and then they have the tournament. Basically those teams have many chances for more loses. To me that makes it unlikely that two of them get #1. Also, if Miami beats Duke @ Cameron that should cement them as a #1 unless they lose in the first round of the ACC tournament. And Florida has already been discussed a bunch. And I agree that their profile isnt as good as their win-loss suggests.
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This Just In
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Post by This Just In on Feb 26, 2013 12:48:07 GMT -5
...per Joe Lunardi (http://insider.espn.go.com/mens-college-basketball/story/_/id/8988673/bracketology-several-teams-mix-no-1-seeds-college-basketball) TEAM S-CURVE NO. 1 SEED ODDS Indiana No. 1 80 percent Duke No. 2 55 percent Gonzaga No. 3 35 percent Florida No. 4 45 percent Michigan No. 5 40 percent Kansas No. 6 40 percent Miami (FL) No. 7 35 percent Michigan St No. 8 25 percent Georgetown No. 9 15 percent Arizona No. 10 10 percent Louisville No. 11 15 percent FIELD -- 5 percent Thank for the info.
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TBird41
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Post by TBird41 on Feb 26, 2013 12:50:55 GMT -5
I, for one, am just really enjoying seeing Georgetown getting the automatic berth in all the brackets
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Post by westendhoya on Feb 26, 2013 13:06:46 GMT -5
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Just Cos
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Post by Just Cos on Feb 26, 2013 13:11:21 GMT -5
That bubble watch is from Feb. 20th
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rosslynhoya
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Post by rosslynhoya on Feb 26, 2013 13:13:47 GMT -5
Eamonn skipped another one of his weekly columns yesterday if I recall correctly. It's a strange time for someone in his profession to be on vacation, so I hope nothing serious is wrong with him.
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jgalt
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Post by jgalt on Feb 26, 2013 21:06:34 GMT -5
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Post by rosslynhoya on Feb 26, 2013 21:13:31 GMT -5
How many pre-season unranked teams have won a title? The Fighting Melos in 2002-03. They rated a #3 seed behind OK and WaFU in the East. The Florida Gators in 2005-06. They were only a #3 seed though (Nova was #1 in their regional). The Uconn Huskies in 2010-11. They also were awarded a #3 seed after winning the BET for the automatic berth. ***I also found an unsourced statement that says from 1986 through 2012, five of the 108 one-seeds went to teams that were unranked to start the season. I couldn't begin to guess which teams those were.
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Post by TrueHoyaBlue on Feb 27, 2013 8:09:23 GMT -5
He has since updated to include the Hoyas and Marquette as locks.
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Post by This Just In on Feb 27, 2013 8:51:36 GMT -5
I clicked on the link & ESPN has Georgetown as a lock for the NCAA Tourney
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Post by This Just In on Feb 27, 2013 8:56:00 GMT -5
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Post by Boz on Feb 27, 2013 11:11:11 GMT -5
We should be hoping for a #2 seed, with an ACC team as the #1 in our bracket. Worked out pretty well for us the last time.
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Post by lb25 on Feb 27, 2013 11:23:33 GMT -5
i would love to see them as a 1seed..but I really just want them to do well in the tourney...sweet 16 or further
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Post by This Just In on Feb 27, 2013 11:46:31 GMT -5
i would love to see them as a 1seed..but I really just want them to do well in the tourney...sweet 16 or further [/b] It is time to get the monkey off of our backs.
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jgalt
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Post by jgalt on Feb 27, 2013 12:23:24 GMT -5
How many pre-season unranked teams have won a title? The Fighting Melos in 2002-03. They rated a #3 seed behind OK and WaFU in the East. The Florida Gators in 2005-06. They were only a #3 seed though (Nova was #1 in their regional). The Uconn Huskies in 2010-11. They also were awarded a #3 seed after winning the BET for the automatic berth. ***I also found an unsourced statement that says from 1986 through 2012, five of the 108 one-seeds went to teams that were unranked to start the season. I couldn't begin to guess which teams those were. I have been waiting to bring this up because I didnt want to be a wet blanket, but, with the exception of teams above, being ranked in the pre season is highly correlated with tournament success (well actually its the converse that is true: not be ranked is correlated with tournament flame outs). Here is an article from Nate Silver outlining the case: fivethirtyeight.blogs.nytimes.com/2011/03/11/in-n-c-a-a-tournament-overachievers-often-disappoint/I hoping this is not true with this team (there are always exceptions to the rule), but Im not holding my breath. You might argue that this year the preseason rankings were especially bad: Kentucky, UCLA, NC State were all ranked highly but have had bad years (Kentucky may not even make the tournament). But the odds are not in our favor.
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hoyas1995
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Post by hoyas1995 on Feb 27, 2013 12:27:30 GMT -5
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Post by hoyaboya on Feb 27, 2013 12:34:33 GMT -5
The Fighting Melos in 2002-03. They rated a #3 seed behind OK and WaFU in the East. The Florida Gators in 2005-06. They were only a #3 seed though (Nova was #1 in their regional). The Uconn Huskies in 2010-11. They also were awarded a #3 seed after winning the BET for the automatic berth. ***I also found an unsourced statement that says from 1986 through 2012, five of the 108 one-seeds went to teams that were unranked to start the season. I couldn't begin to guess which teams those were. I have been waiting to bring this up because I didnt want to be a wet blanket, but, with the exception of teams above, being ranked in the pre season is highly correlated with tournament success (well actually its the converse that is true: not be ranked is correlated with tournament flame outs). Here is an article from Nate Silver outlining the case: fivethirtyeight.blogs.nytimes.com/2011/03/11/in-n-c-a-a-tournament-overachievers-often-disappoint/I hoping this is not true with this team (there are always exceptions to the rule), but Im not holding my breath. You might argue that this year the preseason rankings were especially bad: Kentucky, UCLA, NC State were all ranked highly but have had bad years (Kentucky may not even make the tournament). But the odds are not in our favor. Not buying it...I don't believe a thing Nate Silver says. Sincerely, Karl Rove
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Post by This Just In on Feb 27, 2013 13:11:25 GMT -5
I have been waiting to bring this up because I didnt want to be a wet blanket, but, with the exception of teams above, being ranked in the pre season is highly correlated with tournament success (well actually its the converse that is true: not be ranked is correlated with tournament flame outs). Here is an article from Nate Silver outlining the case: fivethirtyeight.blogs.nytimes.com/2011/03/11/in-n-c-a-a-tournament-overachievers-often-disappoint/I hoping this is not true with this team (there are always exceptions to the rule), but Im not holding my breath. You might argue that this year the preseason rankings were especially bad: Kentucky, UCLA, NC State were all ranked highly but have had bad years (Kentucky may not even make the tournament). But the odds are not in our favor. Not buying it...I don't believe a thing Nate Silver says.
Sincerely, Karl RoveNow that's a good one, hoyaboya
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