TBird41
Platinum Hoya (over 5000 posts)
"Roy! I Love All 7'2" of you Roy!"
Posts: 8,740
|
Post by TBird41 on Feb 3, 2014 10:24:30 GMT -5
Agreed... but is taking on another project worth the scholarship (4 years) that could be given to a '15 class full of bigs? Personally, I think we would be better off keeping moses one year than wasting 3 years on a project player like Hayes... If all goes according to plan, we will have Moses, Josh and Mikael next year, plus some real talent at the PF position coming in. Pass... Yeah, I gotta agree with this. We have some real players coming in next couple classes. I want to match them up with equal level talent and compete at the highest level. Too many times we've had talented players surrounded with a severe lack of talent and a lack of alternative scoring options in the front court or depth off the bench have hurt the Hoyas. (Wright-Clark-Freeman-Monroe come to mind as do Starks-Otto) I don't want to rag on Julian Vaughen or Nate Lubick, but can you imagine what either of those teams could have done with a legit power forward? Anyway, I really believe we can finally land a top big-- we have a very appealing situation right now. Good conference, great recruiting classes coming in, brand new practice facility, history of developing bigs and the promise of immediate playing time. I'd just take Moses -- and maybe even Smith -- back next year and try to lock up any of the top '15 bigs we're on. The only way I think we take Delarosa is if he's truly blown up recently and the staff feels like he has become a top tier center. I do think that being around hard working guys like Copeland and Peak could prove beneficial to a project player.... There are currently 4 open scholarships for 2015 players. Lots of room for bigs in that class, even if we take Adonis. I'd hate for the 2014 class to have the same issue as the 2011 class, where they never get to play with a real center, something that could very easily happen, either due to inability to sign a big in 2015 or because whatever freshman big(s) not being ready for prime time in 2015. Not to mention the fact that you need depth, especially if you're playing young big guys that can easily get in foul trouble.
|
|
dreamhoya
Golden Hoya (over 1000 posts)
Posts: 2,259
|
Post by dreamhoya on Feb 3, 2014 10:27:52 GMT -5
Yes. I don't think he's a "project"; i think work ethic is his issue right now. he is what he is; it's a question of style points, really.
|
|
Deleted
Deleted Member
Posts: 0
|
Post by Deleted on Feb 3, 2014 10:52:38 GMT -5
Delarosa is whatever to me but If you pass on Delarossa whose your center 2015-2016 season a freshman big or?
I haven’t seen much of him but in the game posted on last page he looks much improved in his overall approach and the weight loss is evident. He appears to have some descent skills but needs time to develop.
The thing is this is true for almost any big we land unless it’s an Ivan Rabb or someone on that level.. So my question is if not him, who?
|
|
Deleted
Deleted Member
Posts: 0
|
Post by Deleted on Feb 3, 2014 10:58:09 GMT -5
Delarosa is whatever to me but If you pass on Delarossa whose your center 2015-2016 season a freshman big or? I haven’t seen much of him but in the game posted on last page he looks much improved in his overall approach and the weight loss is evident. He appears to have some descent skills but needs time to develop. The thing is this is true for almost any big we land unless it’s an Ivan Rabb or someone on that level.. So my question is if not him, who? Fair point. I guess the question is would you rather have Delarosa as a sophomore in '15 or a guy like Commanche or Dickerson as a freshman? Also, Hayes will be a senior-- you've got to assume he'll at least be serviceable then and if we're bringing on Trey that's another sophomore big. Not saying Delarosa wouldnt help-- in fact he might give us the depth up-front that we desperately need. My only concern is that this is another one of those late season signings that havent worked out for us very well previously....
|
|
EtomicB
Blue & Gray (over 10,000 posts)
Posts: 14,962
|
Post by EtomicB on Feb 3, 2014 11:01:30 GMT -5
If they forget him, what are their options MCI? In my opinion his not playing next year will have more to do with who JT3 is comfortable with than anything.. Many folks want Moses back next year but I don't, it's time to move on.. Moses has played 34 minutes in his past 2 games & has produced 3pts, 6reb's, 0 blocks & 0 assts.. I get that there are intangibles within the game of basketball but geez.. Delarosa wouldn't have been my 1st choice either but he's made more progress towards getting in shape in the past year than Josh has and he's much better than "nobody" the staff has coming in at the 5 spot... Agreed... but is taking on another project worth the scholarship (4 years) that could be given to a '15 class full of bigs? Personally, I think we would be better off keeping moses one year than wasting 3 years on a project player like Hayes... If all goes according to plan, we will have Moses, Josh and Mikael next year, plus some real talent at the PF position coming in. Pass... What's your definition of a project? To me a project is a player who doesn't have any skills, they just have strong physical attributes.. Hayes & Bolden are projects IMO, Bowen & Moses qualify too.. Adonis has skills but he's been way way out of shape most of his HS career.. Look at how well the Hamilton kid is doing at DePaul, he was rated exactly like Adonis last year.. Hamilton too was out of shape in HS. I agree that he doesn't perfectly fit with the incoming class but he fits better than Moses.. Hoping on 2015 is not a good strategy to me, a bird in the hand would be my motto.. This coming from someone who killed the staff for monitoring Adonis a month ago but after seeing that he dropped weight & seeing him in the Bass Pro tourney I've completely changed my mind..
|
|
TBird41
Platinum Hoya (over 5000 posts)
"Roy! I Love All 7'2" of you Roy!"
Posts: 8,740
|
Post by TBird41 on Feb 3, 2014 11:03:16 GMT -5
Delarosa is whatever to me but If you pass on Delarossa whose your center 2015-2016 season a freshman big or? I haven’t seen much of him but in the game posted on last page he looks much improved in his overall approach and the weight loss is evident. He appears to have some descent skills but needs time to develop. The thing is this is true for almost any big we land unless it’s an Ivan Rabb or someone on that level.. So my question is if not him, who? Fair point. I guess the question is would you rather have Delarosa as a sophomore in '15 or a guy like Commanche or Dickerson as a freshman? Also, Hayes will be a senior-- you've got to assume he'll at least be serviceable then and if we're bringing on Trey that's another sophomore big. Not saying Delarosa wouldnt help-- in fact he might give us the depth up-front that we desperately need. My only concern is that this is another one of those late season signings that havent worked out for us very well previously.... If you take Delarosa, you have three scholarships for 2015 left, and that's if no one else leaves due to transfer, going pro early, flunking out, whatever.
|
|
EtomicB
Blue & Gray (over 10,000 posts)
Posts: 14,962
|
Post by EtomicB on Feb 3, 2014 11:14:11 GMT -5
Delarosa is whatever to me but If you pass on Delarossa whose your center 2015-2016 season a freshman big or? I haven’t seen much of him but in the game posted on last page he looks much improved in his overall approach and the weight loss is evident. He appears to have some descent skills but needs time to develop. The thing is this is true for almost any big we land unless it’s an Ivan Rabb or someone on that level.. So my question is if not him, who? Fair point. I guess the question is would you rather have Delarosa as a sophomore in '15 or a guy like Commanche or Dickerson as a freshman? Also, Hayes will be a senior-- you've got to assume he'll at least be serviceable then and if we're bringing on Trey that's another sophomore big. Not saying Delarosa wouldnt help-- in fact he might give us the depth up-front that we desperately need. My only concern is that this is another one of those late season signings that havent worked out for us very well previously.... Of course we'd all take Dickerson or Commanche but they aren't committed to come and probably won't be deciding for 5 or 6 months. How can you count Trey but discount DelaRosa Denny? Who are these bad late signings Denny? I'll give you Hayes but even he's debatable
|
|
Deleted
Deleted Member
Posts: 0
|
Post by Deleted on Feb 3, 2014 11:17:21 GMT -5
Delarosa is whatever to me but If you pass on Delarossa whose your center 2015-2016 season a freshman big or? I haven’t seen much of him but in the game posted on last page he looks much improved in his overall approach and the weight loss is evident. He appears to have some descent skills but needs time to develop. The thing is this is true for almost any big we land unless it’s an Ivan Rabb or someone on that level.. So my question is if not him, who? Fair point. I guess the question is would you rather have Delarosa as a sophomore in '15 or a guy like Commanche or Dickerson as a freshman? Also, Hayes will be a senior-- you've got to assume he'll at least be serviceable then and if we're bringing on Trey that's another sophomore big. Not saying Delarosa wouldnt help-- in fact he might give us the depth up-front that we desperately need. My only concern is that this is another one of those late season signings that havent worked out for us very well previously.... Definitely wouldn’t count on Commanche being here but if he did, he’s very frail and would have to put on much weight. Even with that you named one Big with huge question marks and 2 kids we “might” land. Are you guys comfortable with that? I am not tbh...
|
|
Deleted
Deleted Member
Posts: 0
|
Post by Deleted on Feb 3, 2014 11:24:55 GMT -5
Fair point. I guess the question is would you rather have Delarosa as a sophomore in '15 or a guy like Commanche or Dickerson as a freshman? Also, Hayes will be a senior-- you've got to assume he'll at least be serviceable then and if we're bringing on Trey that's another sophomore big. Not saying Delarosa wouldnt help-- in fact he might give us the depth up-front that we desperately need. My only concern is that this is another one of those late season signings that havent worked out for us very well previously.... Of course we'd all take Dickerson or Commanche but they aren't committed to come and probably won't be deciding for 5 or 6 months. How can you count Trey but discount DelaRosa Denny? Who are these bad late signings Denny? I'll give you Hayes but even he's debatable Trey is a walk-on so I am not as concerned with him. But my point was more that both are unknown 3 stars. The late signings that havent worked out in my mind are Hayes, Benimon, Moses. Also, although Bolden was early -- very early -- I just want to land a known commodity at this point that is ranked high. It doesnt need to be Raab or a top 5 player but give me a top 50 big with the classes we have coming in and we're talking about a team that will be as talented as anyone. I also understand the concerns about a guy like Commanche who wont be ready from day one. But I do think he's got the better long-term potential. I'm willing to struggle a little the next 2 years if you can tell me we'll have Copeland/White/Tre/Peak as juniors and Dickerson or Commanche/ Derrickson as sophomores. The problem is that if we take Trey and Delarose does that scare away guys like Commanche? (Maybe I'm wrong about this, interested to hear people's thoughts.)
|
|
Deleted
Deleted Member
Posts: 0
|
Post by Deleted on Feb 3, 2014 11:25:07 GMT -5
Fair point. I guess the question is would you rather have Delarosa as a sophomore in '15 or a guy like Commanche or Dickerson as a freshman? Also, Hayes will be a senior-- you've got to assume he'll at least be serviceable then and if we're bringing on Trey that's another sophomore big. Not saying Delarosa wouldnt help-- in fact he might give us the depth up-front that we desperately need. My only concern is that this is another one of those late season signings that havent worked out for us very well previously.... Of course we'd all take Dickerson or Commanche but they aren't committed to come and probably won't be deciding for 5 or 6 months. How can you count Trey but discount DelaRosa Denny? Who are these bad late signings Denny? I'll give you Hayes but even he's debatable Trey is a walk-on so I am not as concerned with him. But my point was more that both are unknown 3 stars. The late signings that havent worked out in my mind are Hayes, Benimon, Moses. Also, although Bolden was early -- very early -- I just want to land a known commodity at this point that is ranked high. It doesnt need to be Raab or a top 5 player but give me a top 50 big with the classes we have coming in and we're talking about a team that will be as talented as anyone. I also understand the concerns about a guy like Commanche who wont be ready from day one. But I do think he's got the better long-term potential. I'm willing to struggle a little the next 2 years if you can tell me we'll have Copeland/White/Tre/Peak as juniors and Dickerson or Commanche/ Derrickson as sophomores. The problem is that if we take Trey and Delarose does that scare away guys like Commanche? (Maybe I'm wrong about this, interested to hear people's thoughts.)
|
|
EtomicB
Blue & Gray (over 10,000 posts)
Posts: 14,962
|
Post by EtomicB on Feb 3, 2014 11:36:10 GMT -5
Of course we'd all take Dickerson or Commanche but they aren't committed to come and probably won't be deciding for 5 or 6 months. How can you count Trey but discount DelaRosa Denny? Who are these bad late signings Denny? I'll give you Hayes but even he's debatable Trey is a walk-on so I am not as concerned with him. But my point was more that both are unknown 3 stars. The late signings that havent worked out in my mind are Hayes, Benimon, Moses. Also, although Bolden was early -- very early -- I just want to land a known commodity at this point that is ranked high. It doesnt need to be Raab or a top 5 player but give me a top 50 big with the classes we have coming in and we're talking about a team that will be as talented as anyone. I also understand the concerns about a guy like Commanche who wont be ready from day one. But I do think he's got the better long-term potential. I'm willing to struggle a little the next 2 years if you can tell me we'll have Copeland/White/Tre/Peak as juniors and Dickerson or Commanche/ Derrickson as sophomores. The problem is that if we take Trey and Delarose does that scare away guys like Commanche? (Maybe I'm wrong about this, interested to hear people's thoughts.) Youre right Moses hasnt worked out which is why I'd move on from him.. Again I ask what happens if the staff doesn't pull Dickerson or Commanche for 2015? I doubt DelaRosa scares anyone but if he did do you really want that player?
|
|
Deleted
Deleted Member
Posts: 0
|
Post by Deleted on Feb 3, 2014 11:46:09 GMT -5
We have no centers for '15-'16. We need them.
Pencil in how the 40 minutes will look at the Center position in '15-'16 -- use any combination or Hayes, DelaRosa/Mourning(?)/other 2014 bigs, No-C/smaller lineups, 2015 bigs you want. You can even modify next season's team -- i.e. Smith & Moses not returning -- in terms of Hayes' and DelaRosa/2014s' development.
It's not a pretty picture.
|
|
TBird41
Platinum Hoya (over 5000 posts)
"Roy! I Love All 7'2" of you Roy!"
Posts: 8,740
|
Post by TBird41 on Feb 3, 2014 11:48:26 GMT -5
Trey is a walk-on so I am not as concerned with him. But my point was more that both are unknown 3 stars. The late signings that havent worked out in my mind are Hayes, Benimon, Moses. Also, although Bolden was early -- very early -- I just want to land a known commodity at this point that is ranked high. It doesnt need to be Raab or a top 5 player but give me a top 50 big with the classes we have coming in and we're talking about a team that will be as talented as anyone. I also understand the concerns about a guy like Commanche who wont be ready from day one. But I do think he's got the better long-term potential. I'm willing to struggle a little the next 2 years if you can tell me we'll have Copeland/White/Tre/Peak as juniors and Dickerson or Commanche/ Derrickson as sophomores. The problem is that if we take Trey and Delarose does that scare away guys like Commanche? (Maybe I'm wrong about this, interested to hear people's thoughts.) Youre right Moses hasnt worked out which is why I'd move on from him.. Again I ask what happens if the staff doesn't pull Dickerson or Commanche for 2015? I doubt DelaRosa scares anyone but if he did do you really want that player? I don't think it's smart to count on having the entire 2014 class as juniors, especially considering what happened with the 2011 class (Otto went pro, Adams had the heart issue and Greg got hurt / flunked out). Not to mention the fact that we're going to have a senior DSR in 2015--add in the current 2014 class as sophomores, a lights out stretch four in Cameron, a legit big or two and Derrickson and we're a top 5 team and a national title contender. It'd be stupid to punt on 2015, which is why we need a center in 2014 AND a center in 2015. If the staff can pull that off, the 2015 team is going to be stacked / the deepest, most talented team JT3 will have had.
|
|
Deleted
Deleted Member
Posts: 0
|
Post by Deleted on Feb 3, 2014 11:52:23 GMT -5
Youre right Moses hasnt worked out which is why I'd move on from him.. Again I ask what happens if the staff doesn't pull Dickerson or Commanche for 2015? I doubt DelaRosa scares anyone but if he did do you really want that player? I don't think it's smart to beat on having the entire 2014 class as juniors, especially considering what happened with the 2011 class (Otto went pro and Greg got hurt / flunked out). Not to mention the fact that we're going to have a senior DSR in 2015--add in the current 2014 class as sophomores, a lights out stretch four in Cameron, a legit big or two and Derrickson and we're a legit national title contender. It'd be stupid to punt on 2015, which is why we need a center in 2014 AND a center in 2015. If the staff can pull that off, the 2015 team is going to be stacked / the deepest, most talented team JT3 will have had. Not selling them out for '15/'16. And if Copeland is gone by his junior year that probably means he had a great season. But yeah, I'm willing to be patient next year for the right fit the year after and the year after that. What's frustrating is that the staff didn't land a solid big in this year's class....
|
|
chep3
Golden Hoya (over 1000 posts)
Posts: 2,314
|
Post by chep3 on Feb 3, 2014 11:57:27 GMT -5
Getting this kid won't preclude us from getting a higher ranked center in 2015. If people think he won't develop into a player, then we shouldn't take him. But it's not an either/or kind of thing for him and a center in '15. Plus, if Dickerson commits and we decide to go with him as a 5, he'd be undersized so you'd need a bigger body in the rotation.
|
|
TBird41
Platinum Hoya (over 5000 posts)
"Roy! I Love All 7'2" of you Roy!"
Posts: 8,740
|
Post by TBird41 on Feb 3, 2014 12:01:38 GMT -5
I don't think it's smart to beat on having the entire 2014 class as juniors, especially considering what happened with the 2011 class (Otto went pro and Greg got hurt / flunked out). Not to mention the fact that we're going to have a senior DSR in 2015--add in the current 2014 class as sophomores, a lights out stretch four in Cameron, a legit big or two and Derrickson and we're a legit national title contender. It'd be stupid to punt on 2015, which is why we need a center in 2014 AND a center in 2015. If the staff can pull that off, the 2015 team is going to be stacked / the deepest, most talented team JT3 will have had. Not selling them out for '15/'16. And if Copeland is gone by his junior year that probably means he had a great season. But yeah, I'm willing to be patient next year for the right fit the year after and the year after that. What's frustrating is that the staff didn't land a solid big in this year's class.... There are lots of ways the 2014 class could come apart in the next two years that don't involve having a huge season and going pro early--Tyler Adams and Greg Whittington are two examples. You can't assume anything, and there are enough scholarships available that taking another center in 2014 shouldn't impact the 2015 class. If Adonis has the potential to be a decent big by 2015, he's worth a scholarship. If he ends up like Hayes, well, then he won't stop us from signing a 2015 center, since there would still be 3 scholarships open. And yes, I'm frustrated the staff hasn't managed to lock up a 2014 center yet, for all the arguments I just made.
|
|
|
Post by williambraskyiii on Feb 3, 2014 12:03:36 GMT -5
Youre right Moses hasnt worked out which is why I'd move on from him.. Again I ask what happens if the staff doesn't pull Dickerson or Commanche for 2015? I doubt DelaRosa scares anyone but if he did do you really want that player? I don't think it's smart to count on having the entire 2014 class as juniors, especially considering what happened with the 2011 class (Otto went pro, Adams had the heart issue and Greg got hurt / flunked out). Not to mention the fact that we're going to have a senior DSR in 2015--add in the current 2014 class as sophomores, a lights out stretch four in Cameron, a legit big or two and Derrickson and we're a top 5 team and a national title contender. It'd be stupid to punt on 2015, which is why we need a center in 2014 AND a center in 2015. If the staff can pull that off, the 2015 team is going to be stacked / the deepest, most talented team JT3 will have had. I love the couch potato pundits advocating against DelaRosa in lieu of all the quality in the '15 class. Do people seriously never learn? Especially given Dickerson's comments of late, I think there is a very high likelihood he gets snapped up by one of the blue bloods. We never, ever win when a kid wants to push his commitment. You pick up the pieces you can when they're available. If history of this program tells you anything, it is that true big men can be molded and we have the coaches to do it. Hayes is not a prototypical big man - yes he is tall, but he has no idea how to play inside and hasn't really shown any evidence that he will ever have a solid post game either offensively or defensively. I admit I've never watched this kid play, but if DelaRosa is a post, snap him up. We can still run, and craft the offense around athletic wings. Also, I am puzzled at the folks saying Moses is a bust. Yes, he is still mechanical in his post moves and yes he still fouls too much, but I honestly think Moses could be a very quality big man in this league if he comes back next year. He just needs to keep working on his game. To say that he hasn't shown potential as a quality big man is silly IMO. And I realize I quoted TBird's post and that our perspectives are in sync. I just did it because it was the last one I read before posting. Unlike the mouthbreathing masses on this Board, I expect TBird didn't need that disclaimer.
|
|
Deleted
Deleted Member
Posts: 0
|
Post by Deleted on Feb 3, 2014 12:15:29 GMT -5
I don't think it's smart to beat on having the entire 2014 class as juniors, especially considering what happened with the 2011 class (Otto went pro and Greg got hurt / flunked out). Not to mention the fact that we're going to have a senior DSR in 2015--add in the current 2014 class as sophomores, a lights out stretch four in Cameron, a legit big or two and Derrickson and we're a legit national title contender. It'd be stupid to punt on 2015, which is why we need a center in 2014 AND a center in 2015. If the staff can pull that off, the 2015 team is going to be stacked / the deepest, most talented team JT3 will have had. Not selling them out for '15/'16. And if Copeland is gone by his junior year that probably means he had a great season. But yeah, I'm willing to be patient next year for the right fit the year after and the year after that. What's frustrating is that the staff didn't land a solid big in this year's class.... There’s only about 10 of those guys a year Denny. 2015 is lauded as being a huge class for bigs, as of now there’s 13 in the top 100… Currently we have one big who you can say is 100% coming back at this point, Hopkins. Nothings for sure in recruiting as u know and we could end up empty handed in 2015 also… The reality is if he’s not good enough or fails to progress, he get’s over recruited and or pushed out.. it is what it is
|
|
Deleted
Deleted Member
Posts: 0
|
Post by Deleted on Feb 3, 2014 12:33:10 GMT -5
I don't think it's smart to count on having the entire 2014 class as juniors, especially considering what happened with the 2011 class (Otto went pro, Adams had the heart issue and Greg got hurt / flunked out). Not to mention the fact that we're going to have a senior DSR in 2015--add in the current 2014 class as sophomores, a lights out stretch four in Cameron, a legit big or two and Derrickson and we're a top 5 team and a national title contender. It'd be stupid to punt on 2015, which is why we need a center in 2014 AND a center in 2015. If the staff can pull that off, the 2015 team is going to be stacked / the deepest, most talented team JT3 will have had. I love the couch potato pundits advocating against DelaRosa in lieu of all the quality in the '15 class. Do people seriously never learn? Especially given Dickerson's comments of late, I think there is a very high likelihood he gets snapped up by one of the blue bloods. We never, ever win when a kid wants to push his commitment. You pick up the pieces you can when they're available. If history of this program tells you anything, it is that true big men can be molded and we have the coaches to do it. Hayes is not a prototypical big man - yes he is tall, but he has no idea how to play inside and hasn't really shown any evidence that he will ever have a solid post game either offensively or defensively. I admit I've never watched this kid play, but if DelaRosa is a post, snap him up. We can still run, and craft the offense around athletic wings. Also, I am puzzled at the folks saying Moses is a bust. Yes, he is still mechanical in his post moves and yes he still fouls too much, but I honestly think Moses could be a very quality big man in this league if he comes back next year. He just needs to keep working on his game. To say that he hasn't shown potential as a quality big man is silly IMO. And I realize I quoted TBird's post and that our perspectives are in sync. I just did it because it was the last one I read before posting. Unlike the mouthbreathing masses on this Board, I expect TBird didn't need that disclaimer. Agree with most of this but will push back on Dickerson a bit… Most kids 90% commit Summer or Fall going into their Senior year since they can’t sign a LOI until fall anyways. The only school I would be afraid of regarding him is Duke and I think even they would have a hard time. The relationship with Mutumbo helps but unlike the last staff, these guys get after it.. They have been relentless recruiting him… His comments have more to do with him being a smart kid and wanting to go through the process more than anything else IMO. Dickerson already has 22 offers including OSU OK St Florida Memphis Uconn Michigan etc Offers scroll to the bottom www.verbalcommits.com/players/noah-dickerson--2
|
|
Deleted
Deleted Member
Posts: 0
|
Post by Deleted on Feb 3, 2014 13:28:57 GMT -5
Not selling them out for '15/'16. And if Copeland is gone by his junior year that probably means he had a great season. But yeah, I'm willing to be patient next year for the right fit the year after and the year after that. What's frustrating is that the staff didn't land a solid big in this year's class.... There’s only about 10 of those guys a year Denny. 2015 is lauded as being a huge class for bigs, as of now there’s 13 in the top 100… Currently we have one big who you can say is 100% coming back at this point, Hopkins. Nothings for sure in recruiting as u know and we could end up empty handed in 2015 also… The reality is if he’s not good enough or fails to progress, he get’s over recruited and or pushed out.. it is what it is Yeah that's fair and you make a good argument Yaboy. My only points were that if we were gonna take a guy with a couple years to develop I wish we had done it in last years class with Cameron to maximize his talent level with the recruits coming in. Timing is just as big a part of recruiting as anything else. I'm a little wary of taking 6 guys in a 2014 class because I think that creates roster imbalances moving forward. I think it does also slightly discourage a guy who is ranked around the mid-50's with a bigger upside than Delarosa -- but not guaranteed to start right away -- from coming because he doesnt have guaranteed playing time from the jump. Some may say that's not the type of mentality we want from a recruit but I'm not sure-- high school kids just want to be assured they will get minutes to develop these days and an empty frontcourt is a big draw. Having said that, I understand the need at Center and hope this guy can satisfy that need. I guess I'm just worried about getting stuck with a late signee that doesnt work out and now we have to carry him ala Hayes for four years with little contribution. I'm coming around to Yaboy's argument but you still have to admit these late signees are kinda risky. I don't think that's an unreasonable concern, but apparently enough for Braskii to fill himself up with righteous indignation about us "couch potatoes" who have an opinion. BTW, as long as we're calling people we don't know names, a lot of us played ball in the past and now in our old age go out and hit the gyms to watch basketball. I've seen most of the recruits we have coming-in in person already, albeit it not Delarosa. I'm sure Yaboy and others have seen even more. I wouldnt be so quick to dismiss people so quickly as some know-nothing....
|
|