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Post by Deleted on Feb 1, 2014 13:47:02 GMT -5
From Last night @cng_Staszewski: Mike Williams tried to dunk on Adonis Delarosa on fast break. Delarosa hit him hard. Williams landed hard and was face down on the court. @eliovelez: Mike Williams of loughlin is pushed hard by CK Adonis Delarosa to the ground. Two Loughlin fans come out and punch at Delarosa. @cng_Staszewski: An intentional foul was called. Loughlin lead CK 49-44 with 4:31 left in the third quarter. #boyshoops @eliovelez: Williams is off the floor and on the bench. Delarosa escorted off the floor with what looks like an ejection. @nychoops: Christ the Kings Adonis Dela Rosa ejected after flagrant 2 on Loughlins Mike Williams who was injured #boyshoops @cng_Staszewski: Delarosa was ejected from the game. Both Tony Chiles and Rico Hines left the gym right after that. #boyshoops www.msgvarsity.com/game-replay-bishop-lo...he-king-74-1.1558241Full game Delarosa had 7 before getting ejected in the 3rd…
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Post by dreamhoya on Feb 1, 2014 14:12:28 GMT -5
He reminds me of Mike Sweetney only in stature, but taller and not a great rebounder at all at this point. He has great passing ability and a nastiness to his personality. His footwork is great which we can't say for Hayes at the moment. But his motor is a question for me... It's a tough one for me... I'd take him if he comes in and works defensively. If he wanted, he could average a double-double. Does he want it?
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Post by SirSaxa on Feb 1, 2014 14:57:06 GMT -5
From Last night @cng_Staszewski: Mike Williams tried to dunk on Adonis Delarosa on fast break. Delarosa hit him hard. Williams landed hard and was face down on the court. @eliovelez: Mike Williams of loughlin is pushed hard by CK Adonis Delarosa to the ground. Two Loughlin fans come out and punch at Delarosa. @cng_Staszewski: An intentional foul was called. Loughlin lead CK 49-44 with 4:31 left in the third quarter. #boyshoops @eliovelez: Williams is off the floor and on the bench. Delarosa escorted off the floor with what looks like an ejection. @nychoops: Christ the Kings Adonis Dela Rosa ejected after flagrant 2 on Loughlins Mike Williams who was injured #boyshoops @cng_Staszewski: Delarosa was ejected from the game. Both Tony Chiles and Rico Hines left the gym right after that. #boyshoops www.msgvarsity.com/game-replay-bishop-lo...he-king-74-1.1558241Full game Delarosa had 7 before getting ejected in the 3rd… Sounds to me like he's ready for the Big East! HOYA PARANOYA Bring him in!
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Post by calhoya on Feb 1, 2014 15:13:08 GMT -5
Time for JT III to decide what his recruiting philosophy will be going forward. Long and lean and athletic is not going to fit for kids like Smith and perhaps this kid. However if it is a pound it in approach then perhaps this recruitment works. I am just tired of fitting square pegs into round holes.
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Post by Problem of Dog on Feb 1, 2014 16:43:51 GMT -5
He reminds me of Mike Sweetney only in stature, but taller and not a great rebounder at all at this point. He has great passing ability and a nastiness to his personality. His footwork is great which we can't say for Hayes at the moment. But his motor is a question for me... It's a tough one for me... I'd take him if he comes in and works defensively. If he wanted, he could average a double-double. Does he want it? So you're saying he's tall but still fat.
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Post by dreamhoya on Feb 1, 2014 17:35:17 GMT -5
Not the current Sweetney of course.
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Post by hoyarooter on Feb 2, 2014 3:52:48 GMT -5
If we have a choice between this kid and Trey we take...?
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Post by dense on Feb 2, 2014 9:15:18 GMT -5
I don't think Trey is a center at the college level. So I think that makes it easier if it comes down to it.
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Post by DoctorHoya on Feb 2, 2014 9:28:36 GMT -5
I don't think Trey is a center at the college level. So I think that makes it easier if it comes down to it. Trey has a mid range shot (from what I've read) and has been growing over the past year. The mid range shot, if there, is something we definitely need from a center. And if he really is 6'10", and can score/rebound, I think we take him over anyone with a question mark
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Post by DoctorHoya on Feb 2, 2014 9:29:00 GMT -5
I don't think Trey is a center at the college level. So I think that makes it easier if it comes down to it. Trey has a mid range shot (from what I've read) and has been growing over the past year. The mid range shot, if there, is something we definitely need from a center. And if he really is 6'10", and can score/rebound, I think we take him over anyone with a question mark That is, unless he comes on as a walk on... Then we take both
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Post by dense on Feb 2, 2014 9:34:09 GMT -5
Trey has a mid range shot (from what I've read) and has been growing over the past year. The mid range shot, if there, is something we definitely need from a center. And if he really is 6'10", and can score/rebound, I think we take him over anyone with a question mark That is, unless he comes on as a walk on... Then we take both Ehh not that hung up on height but when a news reporter covering high school sports says you have a "disdain" for physical play. You aren't gonna be a college center most likely. He looks from clips and such as a Channing Frye type more than anything. It may work in our offense but I'd just rather have a post we can throw it into and score and I feel JT3 wants that too. De La Rosa in what I saw of him is definitely 6'11 and he is somewhat physical.
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Post by dreamhoya on Feb 2, 2014 10:30:49 GMT -5
if gu had 3 scholls and can secure a true pg, then i'd be ok if they take both
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Post by MCIGuy on Feb 2, 2014 10:41:34 GMT -5
Time for JT III to decide what his recruiting philosophy will be going forward. Long and lean and athletic is not going to fit for kids like Smith and perhaps this kid. However if it is a pound it in approach then perhaps this recruitment works. I am just tired of fitting square pegs into round holes. Also commonly known as not adjusting to the talent on your squad. Forget this kid. First of all he still seems more like an unpolished project. Second of all I have my doubts he would see much time on the floor duirng his first season.
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Post by Talos on Feb 2, 2014 10:58:50 GMT -5
Time for JT III to decide what his recruiting philosophy will be going forward. Long and lean and athletic is not going to fit for kids like Smith and perhaps this kid. However if it is a pound it in approach then perhaps this recruitment works. I am just tired of fitting square pegs into round holes. Agree with this. I'm not sure DelaRosa fits with the rest of the recruits. On the one hand, we really need a big with the 2014 class considering the question marks at the position for next year. On the other hand, I foresee the same defensive problem with DelaRosa we saw with Smith the beginning of this season. Smith was overweight and slow, and had a terrible time trying to hedge when his man set ball screens. With DelaRosa, unless he loses a ton of weight, he will also be too slow for us to play man-to-man. I also don't envision DelaRosa being able to handle the ball at the top of the key on our offense...but if it's DelaRosa or no big at all, I'm ok with it...
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Post by dense on Feb 2, 2014 11:12:17 GMT -5
Time for JT III to decide what his recruiting philosophy will be going forward. Long and lean and athletic is not going to fit for kids like Smith and perhaps this kid. However if it is a pound it in approach then perhaps this recruitment works. I am just tired of fitting square pegs into round holes. Agree with this. I'm not sure DelaRosa fits with the rest of the recruits. On the one hand, we really need a big with the 2014 class considering the question marks at the position for next year. On the other hand, I foresee the same defensive problem with DelaRosa we saw with Smith the beginning of this season. Smith was overweight and slow, and had a terrible time trying to hedge when his man set ball screens. With DelaRosa, unless he loses a ton of weight, he will also be too slow for us to play man-to-man. I also don't envision DelaRosa being able to handle the ball at the top of the key on our offense...but if it's DelaRosa or no big at all, I'm ok with it... I'm not advocating lets go get this kid. I agree with MCI that he probably wouldn't contribute next year that much. But there are some thing you wrote in here that after seeing him play are not correct. He is decent shape now. He can move and run up and down the court well. He has good passing ability. So I am certain he will be able to function in our O. In fact I think it would showcase his positives more. The negative I see is if the things he does now pretty well become incredible and the things he cant do he can do. I give it up to the kid I read that he lost 60lbs from 2012 to now.
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Post by JWallsTreBalls on Feb 2, 2014 11:27:06 GMT -5
Is this is a question of Hayes or Delarosa?
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Post by EtomicB on Feb 2, 2014 15:32:24 GMT -5
Time for JT III to decide what his recruiting philosophy will be going forward. Long and lean and athletic is not going to fit for kids like Smith and perhaps this kid. However if it is a pound it in approach then perhaps this recruitment works. I am just tired of fitting square pegs into round holes. Also commonly known as not adjusting to the talent on your squad. Forget this kid. First of all he still seems more like an unpolished project. Second of all I have my doubts he would see much time on the floor duirng his first season. If they forget him, what are their options MCI? In my opinion his not playing next year will have more to do with who JT3 is comfortable with than anything.. Many folks want Moses back next year but I don't, it's time to move on.. Moses has played 34 minutes in his past 2 games & has produced 3pts, 6reb's, 0 blocks & 0 assts.. I get that there are intangibles within the game of basketball but geez.. Delarosa wouldn't have been my 1st choice either but he's made more progress towards getting in shape in the past year than Josh has and he's much better than "nobody" the staff has coming in at the 5 spot...
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Post by Deleted on Feb 3, 2014 3:32:26 GMT -5
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Post by DoctorHoya on Feb 3, 2014 9:26:44 GMT -5
Also commonly known as not adjusting to the talent on your squad. Forget this kid. First of all he still seems more like an unpolished project. Second of all I have my doubts he would see much time on the floor duirng his first season. If they forget him, what are their options MCI? In my opinion his not playing next year will have more to do with who JT3 is comfortable with than anything.. Many folks want Moses back next year but I don't, it's time to move on.. Moses has played 34 minutes in his past 2 games & has produced 3pts, 6reb's, 0 blocks & 0 assts.. I get that there are intangibles within the game of basketball but geez.. Delarosa wouldn't have been my 1st choice either but he's made more progress towards getting in shape in the past year than Josh has and he's much better than "nobody" the staff has coming in at the 5 spot... Agreed... but is taking on another project worth the scholarship (4 years) that could be given to a '15 class full of bigs? Personally, I think we would be better off keeping moses one year than wasting 3 years on a project player like Hayes... If all goes according to plan, we will have Moses, Josh and Mikael next year, plus some real talent at the PF position coming in. Pass...
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Post by Deleted on Feb 3, 2014 9:48:17 GMT -5
If they forget him, what are their options MCI? In my opinion his not playing next year will have more to do with who JT3 is comfortable with than anything.. Many folks want Moses back next year but I don't, it's time to move on.. Moses has played 34 minutes in his past 2 games & has produced 3pts, 6reb's, 0 blocks & 0 assts.. I get that there are intangibles within the game of basketball but geez.. Delarosa wouldn't have been my 1st choice either but he's made more progress towards getting in shape in the past year than Josh has and he's much better than "nobody" the staff has coming in at the 5 spot... Agreed... but is taking on another project worth the scholarship (4 years) that could be given to a '15 class full of bigs? Personally, I think we would be better off keeping moses one year than wasting 3 years on a project player like Hayes... If all goes according to plan, we will have Moses, Josh and Mikael next year, plus some real talent at the PF position coming in. Pass... Yeah, I gotta agree with this. We have some real players coming in next couple classes. I want to match them up with equal level talent and compete at the highest level. Too many times we've had talented players surrounded with a severe lack of talent and a lack of alternative scoring options in the front court or depth off the bench have hurt the Hoyas. (Wright-Clark-Freeman-Monroe come to mind as do Starks-Otto) I don't want to rag on Julian Vaughen or Nate Lubick, but can you imagine what either of those teams could have done with a legit power forward? Anyway, I really believe we can finally land a top big-- we have a very appealing situation right now. Good conference, great recruiting classes coming in, brand new practice facility, history of developing bigs and the promise of immediate playing time. I'd just take Moses -- and maybe even Smith -- back next year and try to lock up any of the top '15 bigs we're on. The only way I think we take Delarosa is if he's truly blown up recently and the staff feels like he has become a top tier center. I do think that being around hard working guys like Copeland and Peak could prove beneficial to a project player....
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