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Post by TC on Feb 15, 2022 11:38:01 GMT -5
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Post by tashoya on Feb 15, 2022 12:45:21 GMT -5
Seems harsh. The penalty is far lighter for priests violating children. Makes total sense.
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Post by TC on Feb 16, 2022 10:06:27 GMT -5
I guess the argument here is that since this Priest was invalidly baptized, every act he performed as a Priest (marriages, masses, confessions) were all invalid, because someone didn't use the preferred pronoun twenty five years ago. I think I'm going to remember this story - which seems driven by conservatives and trads - when they mock other people's choices of personal pronouns.
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Post by TC on Jan 26, 2023 12:39:57 GMT -5
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Post by SSHoya on May 31, 2023 7:00:37 GMT -5
At least a third of the 12 Roman Catholic dioceses in California have either filed for bankruptcy or are contemplating doing so to deal with an influx of lawsuits filed by survivors of childhood sexual abuse after a state law opened a three-year window in which cases were exempted from age limits. More than 3,000 lawsuits have been filed against the Catholic Church in California under a 2019 state law that also extended the statute of limitations to allow all alleged victims of sexual abuse to sue up to the age of 40. Advocates have been stunned by the number of cases that surfaced during the window, which closed at the end of December. So far, two dioceses have declared bankruptcy. www.washingtonpost.com/religion/2023/05/30/catholic-church-california-grapples-with-over-3000-lawsuits-alleging-abuse/
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Post by Massholya on May 31, 2023 9:22:13 GMT -5
At least a third of the 12 Roman Catholic dioceses in California have either filed for bankruptcy or are contemplating doing so to deal with an influx of lawsuits filed by survivors of childhood sexual abuse after a state law opened a three-year window in which cases were exempted from age limits. More than 3,000 lawsuits have been filed against the Catholic Church in California under a 2019 state law that also extended the statute of limitations to allow all alleged victims of sexual abuse to sue up to the age of 40. Advocates have been stunned by the number of cases that surfaced during the window, which closed at the end of December. So far, two dioceses have declared bankruptcy. www.washingtonpost.com/religion/2023/05/30/catholic-church-california-grapples-with-over-3000-lawsuits-alleging-abuse/Will be interesting to see what happens in Illinois with the recent news about the Catholic Church and abuse there.
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Post by tashoya on May 31, 2023 18:56:09 GMT -5
At least a third of the 12 Roman Catholic dioceses in California have either filed for bankruptcy or are contemplating doing so to deal with an influx of lawsuits filed by survivors of childhood sexual abuse after a state law opened a three-year window in which cases were exempted from age limits. More than 3,000 lawsuits have been filed against the Catholic Church in California under a 2019 state law that also extended the statute of limitations to allow all alleged victims of sexual abuse to sue up to the age of 40. Advocates have been stunned by the number of cases that surfaced during the window, which closed at the end of December. So far, two dioceses have declared bankruptcy. www.washingtonpost.com/religion/2023/05/30/catholic-church-california-grapples-with-over-3000-lawsuits-alleging-abuse/Will be interesting to see what happens in Illinois with the recent news about the Catholic Church and abuse there. Don't we already have PLENTY of examples of what will, very likely, happen?
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Post by hoyarooter on May 31, 2023 20:04:41 GMT -5
At least a third of the 12 Roman Catholic dioceses in California have either filed for bankruptcy or are contemplating doing so to deal with an influx of lawsuits filed by survivors of childhood sexual abuse after a state law opened a three-year window in which cases were exempted from age limits. More than 3,000 lawsuits have been filed against the Catholic Church in California under a 2019 state law that also extended the statute of limitations to allow all alleged victims of sexual abuse to sue up to the age of 40. Advocates have been stunned by the number of cases that surfaced during the window, which closed at the end of December. So far, two dioceses have declared bankruptcy. www.washingtonpost.com/religion/2023/05/30/catholic-church-california-grapples-with-over-3000-lawsuits-alleging-abuse/Wow. I'm here in SoCal, but was not aware of this.
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Post by tashoya on Jun 1, 2023 12:40:37 GMT -5
At least a third of the 12 Roman Catholic dioceses in California have either filed for bankruptcy or are contemplating doing so to deal with an influx of lawsuits filed by survivors of childhood sexual abuse after a state law opened a three-year window in which cases were exempted from age limits. More than 3,000 lawsuits have been filed against the Catholic Church in California under a 2019 state law that also extended the statute of limitations to allow all alleged victims of sexual abuse to sue up to the age of 40. Advocates have been stunned by the number of cases that surfaced during the window, which closed at the end of December. So far, two dioceses have declared bankruptcy. www.washingtonpost.com/religion/2023/05/30/catholic-church-california-grapples-with-over-3000-lawsuits-alleging-abuse/Wow. I'm here in SoCal, but was not aware of this. Well, if you can now ignore that it happened and act as if it's no big deal, you could be a bishop.
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Post by hoyarooter on Jun 1, 2023 17:47:34 GMT -5
Wow. I'm here in SoCal, but was not aware of this. Well, if you can now ignore that it happened and act as if it's no big deal, you could be a bishop. Sorry, wrong religion.
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Post by SSHoya on Aug 28, 2023 9:49:48 GMT -5
Pope Francis blasted what he described as groups of "very strong, reactionary" American Catholics, warning against becoming "backwardists" who oppose change in the Catholic Church. "The situation in the United States is not easy: There is a very strong, reactionary attitude. It is organized and shapes the way people belong, even emotionally," said the pope. "I want to remind these people that backwardism is useless, and it is necessary to understand that there is a correct evolution in the understanding of questions of faith and morals." The pope's comments came during an Aug. 5 meeting with the Jesuits in Portugal during his Aug. 2-6 visit to Lisbon for World Youth Day. His remarks were published by the Jesuit journal La Civiltà Cattolica on Aug. 28. www.ncronline.org/vatican/vatican-news/pope-francis-blasts-reactionary-american-catholics-who-oppose-church-reform
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Post by DFW HOYA on Aug 28, 2023 11:57:36 GMT -5
Pope Francis blasted what he described as groups of "very strong, reactionary" American Catholics, warning against becoming "backwardists" who oppose change in the Catholic Church. At the National Catholic Reporter, the MSNBC wing of the Catholic press, the pope "blasted" Americans that do not follow his approach. In the Fox-like National Catholic Register, they said the pope "laments" this. At a distance, I wonder how much of this sniping is a reaction to how Jesuits communicate among themselves (which is the source of these articles) versus how communication takes place among diocesan clergy. Yes, there are some politics here, given that Francis is the last Vatican II era pope and that era is finding less and less support from younger clerics, but just as Jesuits don't always like being told what to do, the Jesuit style of synodality is not universally accepted in the Church Militant. There is also a bit of posturing among the hinterlands. Were the pope 56 and willing to personally take on some of his opponents, there would probably be considerably less backtalk. Given that he is 86 and the oldest sitting Pope in 120 years, critics are a bit more adventurous.
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Post by hoyarooter on Aug 28, 2023 12:29:04 GMT -5
Pope Francis blasted what he described as groups of "very strong, reactionary" American Catholics, warning against becoming "backwardists" who oppose change in the Catholic Church. At the National Catholic Reporter, the MSNBC wing of the Catholic press, the pope "blasted" Americans that do not follow his approach. In the Fox-like National Catholic Register, they said the pope "laments" this. At a distance, I wonder how much of this sniping is a reaction to how Jesuits communicate among themselves (which is the source of these articles) versus how communication takes place among diocesan clergy. Yes, there are some politics here, given that Francis is the last Vatican II era pope and that era is finding less and less support from younger clerics, but just as Jesuits don't always like being told what to do, the Jesuit style of synodality is not universally accepted in the Church Militant. There is also a bit of posturing among the hinterlands. Were the pope 56 and willing to personally take on some of his opponents, there would probably be considerably less backtalk. Given that he is 86 and the oldest sitting Pope in 120 years, critics are a bit more adventurous. Wow, compared to the Pope, Biden is a wee laddie.
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Post by SSHoya on Sept 4, 2023 20:57:28 GMT -5
American conservatives are not more Catholic than the pope Pope Francis made headlines recently by ripping the conservative Catholics who dominate the U.S. church as a “reactionary” cohort who have replaced faith with ideology. It was the pontiff’s most pointed criticism of the influential Americans who have been his harshest foes since he was elected more than a decade ago. The comments came in a meeting last month with fellow Jesuits in Portugal, where one of the priests remarked that he had spent a year in the United States and was shocked by the anger directed at Francis. The pope replied at length, saying he knows the issues all too well and explaining that, to his mind, the loudest voices in American Catholicism are “backward-looking” moralists (“indietristi”) “disconnected from the roots of the church.” Catholic tradition and history, Francis said, is about moving forward, changing to live the Gospel message in the midst of current realities. The pope’s words were both surprisingly frank and frankly unsurprising, given the persistence of right-wing anger directed at his modernizing approach. www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2023/09/04/pope-wars-against-american-bishops/
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Post by hoyarooter on Sept 4, 2023 21:55:38 GMT -5
American conservatives are not more Catholic than the pope Pope Francis made headlines recently by ripping the conservative Catholics who dominate the U.S. church as a “reactionary” cohort who have replaced faith with ideology. It was the pontiff’s most pointed criticism of the influential Americans who have been his harshest foes since he was elected more than a decade ago. The comments came in a meeting last month with fellow Jesuits in Portugal, where one of the priests remarked that he had spent a year in the United States and was shocked by the anger directed at Francis. The pope replied at length, saying he knows the issues all too well and explaining that, to his mind, the loudest voices in American Catholicism are “backward-looking” moralists (“indietristi”) “disconnected from the roots of the church.” Catholic tradition and history, Francis said, is about moving forward, changing to live the Gospel message in the midst of current realities. The pope’s words were both surprisingly frank and frankly unsurprising, given the persistence of right-wing anger directed at his modernizing approach. www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2023/09/04/pope-wars-against-american-bishops/It sounds to me as though the Pope is not an originalist. Shocking.
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Post by SSHoya on Oct 2, 2023 15:24:58 GMT -5
Amid liberal revolt, pope signals openness to blessings for gay couples In the letter, dated Sept. 25, Francis wrote that there are “situations” that may not be “morally acceptable” but where a priest can assess, on a case-by-case basis, whether blessings may be given — as long as such blessings are kept separate from the sacrament of marriage. “We cannot be judges who only deny, push back and exclude,” Francis wrote. “As such, pastoral prudence must adequately discern whether there are forms of blessing, requested by one or several people, that do not convey a wrong idea of a matrimony. Because when one seeks a blessing, one is requesting help from God.” www.washingtonpost.com/world/2023/10/02/pope-francis-gay-blessings-synod/
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Post by SSHoya on Oct 3, 2023 9:58:08 GMT -5
Conservative Catholics in the United States — home to perhaps the wealthiest and loudest concentration of Pope Francis’s right-wing critics — are watching the major Vatican meeting opening this week with dread and deep mistrust. Concrete organizing against the “Synod on Synodality” or against Francis is rare, but lobbing of the word “schism” is not. From the most radical traditionalist to the mainstream conservative, many U.S. Catholics are wary about the opening Wednesday of the synod, which has been planned for more than two years. Despite worldwide listening sessions offered at every level of the Catholic Church, many conservatives feel that the long process of gathering opinions and representatives for the synod was stacked against them. They see the free-flowing synod structure, which involves laypeople and women in equal roles to clergy, as un-Catholic, and they see as dangerous program documents such as those asking for “concrete steps” to better welcome LGBTQ Catholics and people in polygamous marriages. They feel that Jesus’ name was downplayed in synod documents. Last week, a further-right critic, the Rev. James Altman of Wisconsin, posted a video calling for the killing of Pope Francis. Altman’s bishop barred him from saying Mass in 2021 after he criticized coronavirus vaccines and said that lynching victims were criminals and that Catholics can’t vote Democrat. Some conservatives took to social media in recent days to ostracize Altman but others cheered him on. Altman also in September drew attention in September with a video saying Francis isn’t a legitimate pope. www.washingtonpost.com/religion/2023/10/03/us-catholics-conservatives-synod/
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Post by DanMcQ on Nov 11, 2023 10:06:40 GMT -5
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Post by hoyarooter on Nov 13, 2023 19:25:21 GMT -5
Good riddance. This guy also said that a Catholic should never vote for a Democrat. I suppose that's at least in part due to support for abortion rights and the LGTBQ+ community, but guess what Jack, those are nationally popular positions, and I know of at least one Catholic (in the White House) who supports them. Stay out of politics and worry more about priests who abuse children. I know that Ed would not support my position. RIP, Ed.
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Post by SSHoya on Jan 12, 2024 19:16:28 GMT -5
‘Anti-pope.’ ‘Blasphemous.’ Criticism of Francis comes in strident terms. VATICAN CITY — Pope Francis is facing some of the most vociferous objection to papal authority in decades, in language that might have stunned past popes. German Cardinal Gerhard Müller derided the pope’s new guidance allowing priests to bless same-sex couples as “blasphemy.” One Italian priest found himself rapidly excommunicated after he referred to Francis in his New Year’s Eve homily as an “anti-Pope usurper” with a “cadaverous gaze, into nothingness.” Still holding on to his title is Italian Archbishop Carlo Maria Viganò, who recently dubbed the pontiff a servant of Satan and announced a seminary to train priests free from the “deviations of Bergoglio” (Francis’s name before becoming pope). Francis is experiencing a level of reproach that some observers say is the fiercest since Pope Paul VI reaffirmed the church’s ban on artificial birth control in 1968. Today’s criticism is further amplified by social and digital media. An even more striking distinction, though, may be the overt disdain some clerics are showing to a man seen by Catholics as the Vicar of Christ atop the Throne of Saint Peter. The opposition to Francis is “unprecedented,” said John Carr, a former longtime lobbyist for the U.S. bishops conference who founded Georgetown University’s Initiative on Catholic Social Thought and Public Life. “It is strong, it is narrow, and it is about power — ecclesiastical, economic and political. www.washingtonpost.com/world/2024/01/12/pope-francis-criticism-same-sex-blessings/
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