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Post by Deleted on Aug 11, 2012 2:03:24 GMT -5
The best I’ve ever seen Hayes look, had to have about 20 and dominated the second half. Went 3-4 on jump hooks, and showed nice touch around the basket. The competition of course was meh, but he did what he was supposed to do..
He started out slow so you might want to ff to about 12minutes in
Some AAU Highlights
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Post by gujake on Aug 12, 2012 14:21:29 GMT -5
These full-game videos are so much better than highlight clips. Thanks for posting.
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Post by idhoya on Aug 12, 2012 18:56:30 GMT -5
Can he contribute this year? His length adds another dimension defensively.
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Post by EtomicB on Feb 25, 2013 10:37:19 GMT -5
Does anyone else think the staff should red-shirt Bradley next season?
With Mikael, Moses & Josh being here for the next two seasons, I don't see where he gets any time until his Sr. year. If he takes a RS year he'll have more time to contribute.
In the very limited time he's played he definitely looks very coordinated & athletic in his movements so it might be worth it.
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Post by IDenj on Feb 25, 2013 10:50:02 GMT -5
More likely he and the program would look at "other options" before redshirting.
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Post by prhoya on Feb 25, 2013 10:55:21 GMT -5
Not much to go on, but could be. Depends on his eligibility for the RS (is he still eligible?), deadline to request RS (not sure when that is), his development (who knows how he's really doing?), Josh's development (weight loss), etc... We'll have to TTS on this one.
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Post by EtomicB on Feb 25, 2013 11:13:10 GMT -5
More likely he and the program would look at "other options" before redshirting. If he chooses to go elsewhere he'll have to sit next year anyway so why not stay here and learn from a top coach. On the G'town side of it he may be better than anyone you recruit for '15 or '16, not to mention fluid 7 footers aren't a dime a dozen and again he gets to practice in the system. If it were me and Brad is willing I'd do it..
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Post by BigmanU on Feb 25, 2013 11:13:17 GMT -5
No reason to redshirt him. If he develops, he would get minutes his Junior year. Nate and Moses (unless they apply for medical redshirt-from last year?) would have departed. He and Senior Josh would be the only true Centers on the roster.
I feel if he shows out he'll earn PT next year (very unlikely). If not he should be a cabable 7 footer giving Josh a breather by his Jr. year. Best case scenario is he pushes his way in the lineup. A 7 footer who does reasonablely well will be gone when the first show of potential is flashed. Don't know if this was your intent but, no need to hide him on the roster.
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Post by IDenj on Feb 25, 2013 11:38:44 GMT -5
More likely he and the program would look at "other options" before redshirting. If he chooses to go elsewhere he'll have to sit next year anyway so why not stay here and learn from a top coach. On the G'town side of it he may be better than anyone you recruit for '15 or '16, not to mention fluid 7 footers aren't a dime a dozen and again he gets to practice in the system. If it were me and Brad is willing I'd do it.. True. But we might not have a tonne of playing time for those positions with Josh, Hop and Moses ( not including any other potential recruits ). Maybe a player would prefer PT closer to home at a smaller school v RS'ing and playing less. Tough to say. All hypothetical of course.
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Post by EtomicB on Feb 25, 2013 12:13:01 GMT -5
No reason to redshirt him. If he develops, he would get minutes his Junior year. Nate and Moses (unless they apply for medical redshirt-from last year?) would have departed. He and Senior Josh would be the only true Centers on the roster. I feel if he shows out he'll earn PT next year (very unlikely). If not he should be a cabable 7 footer giving Josh a breather by his Jr. year. Best case scenario is he pushes his way in the lineup. A 7 footer who does reasonablely well will be gone when the first show of potential is flashed. Don't know if this was your intent but, no need to hide him on the roster. My bad then, I thought Moses was granted a RS year already. You're right Bigman there's no reason to do it since Mo will be gone..
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Post by SFHoya99 on Feb 25, 2013 12:22:44 GMT -5
Hayes can't redshirt anyway, unless they make something up.
If you play at all, you can't get a non-medical redshirt, I believe.
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Post by westendhoya on Feb 25, 2013 12:27:37 GMT -5
Moses is a R-S Soph...
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Post by nychoya3 on Feb 25, 2013 12:29:40 GMT -5
You don't petition for the extra year until after your eligibilty has run, so he is currently a Junior. They could petition for an extra year and they would get it, but it would be a joint decision by the staff and Moses.
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Post by BigmanU on Feb 25, 2013 12:49:51 GMT -5
You don't petition for the extra year until after your eligibilty has run, so he is currently a Junior. They could petition for an extra year and they would get it, but it would be a joint decision by the staff and Moses. 100% correct. I was in a hurry and didn't word that properly. He wount be eligible to ask for an extra year until his eligibilty has exhausted (ei Darrel Owens). He might be eligible because of last years medical hardship. Agree also a joint decision by the staff and Moses will be looked at at that time. Moses would be a Grad student and it also depends on the roster situation and development of other players (Hayes etc.) etc. SFHoya99, I may be wrong but, I think Hayes could (not a good idea however) redshirt. I see this alot on other teams example Olynyk from Gonzaga red shirted after his Sophmore season last year because the were stacked with bigs. He was not injured and now he is a redshirt Junior.
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Post by SFHoya99 on Feb 25, 2013 13:00:48 GMT -5
Olynyk could redshirt because he didn't play a single minute his sophomore year. Hayes has been in a game. I could be wrong, but I believe if you play, you will not be granted a non-medical redshirt.
For a medical redshirt, I believe you must only play in 1/3rd of games/ be hurt for 2/3 of a season.
Moses was hurt, so he got his. Olynyk didn't play a single minute. Hayes could redshirt NEXT YEAR, if that's what you are saying. But this year counts. Is that what you meant?
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Post by BigmanU on Feb 25, 2013 13:12:56 GMT -5
Olynyk could redshirt because he didn't play a single minute his sophomore year. Hayes has been in a game. I could be wrong, but I believe if you play, you will not be granted a non-medical redshirt. For a medical redshirt, I believe you must only play in 1/3rd of games/ be hurt for 2/3 of a season. Moses was hurt, so he got his. Olynyk didn't play a single minute. Hayes could redshirt NEXT YEAR, if that's what you are saying. But this year counts. Is that what you meant? Where on the same page. I think EtomicB stated redshirting next year. Not asking for a redshirt this year. Correct he has seen the floor in trash time this season.
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Post by chep3 on Feb 25, 2013 13:44:38 GMT -5
Very curious to see how he develops. I could see him figuring it out and becoming a rim protecting/rebounding force. Or I could see him never really grasping the offense and getting passed over by the other bigs on the roster. But, Moses's ability to be a net plus for us out there when his best (non-rebounding) offensive skill is setting screens is encouraging. We can alter the offense enough that not every big has to be able to be a hub big (though I still maintain we're best with at least one on the roster). Hayes should be able to help in the next few years, even if he doesn't end up scoring.
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Post by SFHoya99 on Feb 25, 2013 13:50:25 GMT -5
gotcha, big manu.
I think Hayes has huge upside. Hope he's a worker.
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Post by idhoya on Feb 25, 2013 14:27:28 GMT -5
Hop would be a four, so Josh/Moses and Natedawg/Hop is how I'd run em out. Hayes is a fluid athlete for a big; all he lacks is development. I agree with SF; I hope he's a Roy when the light came on type worker.
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Post by EtomicB on Feb 25, 2013 17:53:35 GMT -5
You don't petition for the extra year until after your eligibilty has run, so he is currently a Junior. They could petition for an extra year and they would get it, but it would be a joint decision by the staff and Moses. 100% correct. I was in a hurry and didn't word that properly. He wount be eligible to ask for an extra year until his eligibilty has exhausted (ei Darrel Owens). He might be eligible because of last years medical hardship. Agree also a joint decision by the staff and Moses will be looked at at that time. Moses would be a Grad student and it also depends on the roster situation and development of other players (Hayes etc.) etc. SFHoya99, I may be wrong but, I think Hayes could (not a good idea however) redshirt. I see this alot on other teams example Olynyk from Gonzaga red shirted after his Sophmore season last year because the were stacked with bigs. He was not injured and now he is a redshirt Junior. The Olnyk kid is what prompted me to ask about Hayes. So if Moses will get his RS year why do you think redshirting Hayes is a bad idea? I agree with SF that the kid has a lot of upside. I know what they say about hindsight but given the fact that Hayes was a late bloomer & didn't play at all over the summer due to an injury it may have been a good decision to RS him this year. With Josh coming aboard next season and Hopkins & Mo making strides it doesn't seem likely Hayes will play much in the near future so why not save a year if you can..
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