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Post by kchoya on Jan 23, 2012 22:01:57 GMT -5
This is the same owner that orchestrated the midnight move from Baltimore to Indy, right? Dumping an all time great QB is right in character. Just surprised he is not moving the team to boot. Drafting Luck is the right decision.
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Post by HoyaFanNY on Jan 24, 2012 5:54:09 GMT -5
terrell suggs tells skip bayless exactly what he (and everyone else) thinks of him.
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Post by Elvado on Jan 24, 2012 6:04:46 GMT -5
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Post by PhillyHoya on Jan 24, 2012 9:03:27 GMT -5
And approximately 4,938,182,823 replays of the Helmet Catch. GO BIG BLUE! Someone with the screenname of PhillyHoya rooting for the Giants From Philly but 4th generation Giants fan. Wasn't really creative with my name when I joined the board eons ago.
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Post by SirSaxa on Jan 24, 2012 11:24:01 GMT -5
This is the same owner that orchestrated the midnight move from Baltimore to Indy, right? Dumping an all time great QB is right in character. Just surprised he is not moving the team to boot. Manning shares his thoughts Peyton Manning, still trying to get healthy after missing the 2011 season because of neck surgery, described the Indianapolis Colts' facilities as "not a real good environment" at the moment and said he has "no idea" if he'll be with the team next season.
In an exclusive interview with The Indianapolis Star, Manning said owner Jim Irsay will make the final call on whether the team picks up his $28 million bonus in early March or decides to cut him loose. More
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Post by TBird41 on Jan 24, 2012 11:34:31 GMT -5
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Post by Boz on Jan 24, 2012 12:39:57 GMT -5
Not at all surprised that they targeted him. But pretty darn shocked that they would come out and say that. Violates all sorts of unwritten rules (though no written rules AFAIK).
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Post by TBird41 on Jan 24, 2012 13:26:15 GMT -5
Not at all surprised that they targeted him. But pretty darn shocked that they would come out and say that. Violates all sorts of unwritten rules (though no written rules AFAIK). I wasn't particularly surprised either. The article just reminded me that if I think about football too hard, I get pretty disgusted about it.
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Post by hoyarooter on Jan 24, 2012 13:30:19 GMT -5
terrell suggs tells skip bayless exactly what he (and everyone else) thinks of him. That was amusing.
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Post by hoyarooter on Jan 24, 2012 13:30:50 GMT -5
This is the same owner that orchestrated the midnight move from Baltimore to Indy, right? Dumping an all time great QB is right in character. Just surprised he is not moving the team to boot. Son of same. You know what they say about apples.
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Post by TBird41 on Jan 24, 2012 13:51:57 GMT -5
Not at all surprised that they targeted him. But pretty darn shocked that they would come out and say that. Violates all sorts of unwritten rules (though no written rules AFAIK). I wasn't particularly surprised either. The article just reminded me that if I think about football too hard, I get pretty disgusted about it. An SBNation writer gets what I'm trying to say: www.sbnation.com/nfl/2012/1/24/2729642/kyle-williams-giants-concussionAlso, SBNation is probably better for analysis and for feature writing than any other big name site (ESPN, Yahoo, SI.com). Doesn't match the reporting necessarily, but aside from that, I'd say SBNation is the best sports site there is right now. Lots of Gtown ties in the management too.
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Post by SFHoya99 on Jan 24, 2012 14:22:27 GMT -5
Love how Suggs commented to Bayless, as if everyone, including Bayless, know what he is, and just could you keep the annoying crap down while I'm gifting you with this interview? Thanks, Skip.
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Post by whatmaroon on Jan 24, 2012 19:34:34 GMT -5
SBN team sites vary wildly in quality, from a great deal of quality original content to virtually none. Great commenting platform, and some judicious hiring at the upper-level, but some of the team sites epitomize worthless homerism.
Bob Irsay was the one that moved the team from Baltimore to Indy, and pretty much everybody would agree he was an alcoholic hole. Jim is his son, and AFAIK, neither an alcoholic nor a hole, though he was a really terrible GM.
If Peyton's not 100% healthy, I don't see how any prudent organization could pay him the $28 million. Based on everything I've read and heard, he won't be 100% healthy by the time they have to pay him the $28 million.
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Post by SirSaxa on Jan 24, 2012 22:30:28 GMT -5
SBN team sites vary wildly in quality, from a great deal of quality original content to virtually none. Great commenting platform, and some judicious hiring at the upper-level, but some of the team sites epitomize worthless homerism. Bob Irsay was the one that moved the team from Baltimore to Indy, and pretty much everybody would agree he was an alcoholic hole. Jim is his son, and AFAIK, neither an alcoholic nor a hole, though he was a really terrible GM. If Peyton's not 100% healthy, I don't see how any prudent organization could pay him the $28 million. Based on everything I've read and heard, he won't be 100% healthy by the time they have to pay him the $28 million. He's rehabbing at the Colts facility under the direction of Colts personnel. I don't know how far along he is, but we can be sure the Colts do.
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Post by SFHoya99 on Jan 24, 2012 22:37:39 GMT -5
It's a spine injury, in football.
I don't think anyone, even Peyton, really knows how far along he is.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 25, 2012 9:10:13 GMT -5
Besides being a Giants fan, I am so happy at this outcome since I will not have to hear ad nauseam about the Harbaugh family and this unprecedented brother vs. brother match-up. If there is any guarantee about the weeks leading up to the Super Bowl, it will be that there will be at least one if not more topics which you will hear about ad nauseum until you can't bear it anymore and want to gouge your eyeballs and eardrums out with knitting needles. Early nominees on the Patriot side include: Tom Brady wants revenge and Myra Kraft. Early nominees on the Giant side include: Is Eli better than Peyton and, I don't know, something annoying about New York. Hooray! Another New York-Boston sports circlejerk! I'm so excited!
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Post by MassHoya on Jan 27, 2012 19:24:24 GMT -5
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Post by DFW HOYA on Jan 27, 2012 22:53:31 GMT -5
Jackie MacMullan of the Boston Globe likened the Manning-Irsay fray to a divorce: periods of denial, resentment, attempts at reconciliation...but in the end, they still go their separate ways.
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Post by hifigator on Jan 28, 2012 12:57:27 GMT -5
Maybe it's "just me," but I haven't seen the big deal that everyone seems consumed with. I guess I am just entirely desensitized to money -- at least when it comes to other people's money. Who was it -- Ronald Reagan? -- that said, "a million here and a million there, and it adds up to real money." In anycase, whoever said that might have been describing my sentiment perfectly. My point isn't to criticize the prudent business decision to not risk $28 million on a player who just missed the entire season, and who, while among the all-time greats when at his best, still realistically, only has 3 maybe 4 seasons left -- and even that, only if he recovers from a serious and uncertain neck condition. I don't have any problem making such a financial decision, regardless of how unpopular it might be with some.
My point is that since I see teams constantly throwing around absurd amounts of money on lesser star players than Manning -- and even worse, to completely unproven commodities in rookies -- I just don't see the obstacle of having Manning and Luck on roster as insurmountable. Yeah, I know, it really is a lot of money. But my point is that in an ideal model, you would have an elite player in his declining years serve as a mentor to an immensely skilled but inexperienced prodigy/protege'. I understand the potential issues with each, as they would likely each want to be "the guy," but as much as I dislike Peyton, I do think that he has the right demeanor to accept and even embrace such a role, unlike Brett Favre, for example. And I would have to think that Luck is smart enough to understand the huge benefits of grooming himself on the sidelines for a year or two. It certainly helps that arguably the best two QBs in the league did just that, in Rodgers and Brady.
But I haven't heard hardly anyone adopt such a position. I would think that the best interests of the Colts would be to renegotiate with Manning in such a way that makes him happy, while also signing Luck as their QB of the future. I see that as a win-win situation, and I think my opinion is all the more valid, as I dislike the Colts and Manning. If I had my way, they would disappear into mediocrity.
Does anyone think my view makes any sense?
P.S. If the Colts could turn their program around and have similar success under Manning in the next year or two, as they have in the past decade, while grooming the "next big thing," then I can't help but think that the money issue would take care of itself.
Thoughts?
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Post by SSHoya on Jan 28, 2012 13:17:25 GMT -5
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