deacon
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Post by deacon on Jul 26, 2011 9:39:58 GMT -5
Porter coming had nothing to do with Christon not coming.
We never gave him an offer, and he moved on to other schools that did, it's really that simple.
On to the next ...
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Filo
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Post by Filo on Jul 26, 2011 10:03:08 GMT -5
I am guessing this post was sarcasm. Remind me again why we brought recruiting wunderkind / irredeemably corrupt pariah Kevin Broadus on staff? One would hope. But I have my doubts, so the alternative is that we now have the mid-year leader for deleted post of the year. Hopefully, we won't have to read this garbage every time we miss on a recruit now.
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Post by gtowndynasty on Jul 26, 2011 10:17:36 GMT -5
Porter coming had nothing to do with Christon not coming. We never gave him an offer, and he moved on to other schools that did, it's really that simple. On to the next ... It has always intrigued me how people can be so certain that a recruit did or did not get a "committable" offer. I mean Gtown keeps things on the low (extreme low) to the point that III doesnt let his players tweet or fbook about program happenings, but yet we have so many on the board certain that a player has not received an offer... I hope it works out that we get KA, but I dont see why they both couldnt come. They dont have to play the same position just like Otto and Jabril can be on the court at the same time. Semaj would have been a 1/2 while KA would have been a 2/3. I do realize that this is a different recruiting philosophy though. I believe you bring in the best talent you can, let guys earn minutes and those who are on the outside will leave, but you field the best 8-10 player rotation you can.
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Post by bronxhoya87 on Jul 26, 2011 10:22:21 GMT -5
Deacon you speak if you know the truth.....or are you just speculating? Porter coming had nothing to do with Christon not coming. We never gave him an offer, and he moved on to other schools that did, it's really that simple. On to the next ...
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Post by gahoya on Jul 26, 2011 10:45:47 GMT -5
Deacon you speak if you know the truth.....or are you just speculating? Porter coming had nothing to do with Christon not coming. We never gave him an offer, and he moved on to other schools that did, it's really that simple. On to the next ... Honestly I think it seems pretty obvious that is what happened. He either never got a scholarship or couldn't qualify and so his focus shifted pretty quickly.
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Post by HometownHoya on Jul 26, 2011 12:13:40 GMT -5
Porter coming had nothing to do with Christon not coming. We never gave him an offer, and he moved on to other schools that did, it's really that simple. On to the next ... It has always intrigued me how people can be so certain that a recruit did or did not get a "committable" offer. I mean Gtown keeps things on the low (extreme low) to the point that III doesnt let his players tweet or fbook about program happenings, but yet we have so many on the board certain that a player has not received an offer... If you are trying to play basketball in college, and you end up going to Xavier, you probably don't have many higher level offers. Additionally, while KA and Semaj could have co-existed together well, that is something that KA did not want. Finally, this is not about the players we are recruiting. This is about the players that we need and the scholarships we have. For the next two years we have TWO scholarships available. Do you really want two guards when we have such a ?? in the middle? If any of our big men develop or Bolden improves, I could see us going with a shooter but if that doesn't happen, I think JTIII will be looking for a big.
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nychoya3
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Post by nychoya3 on Jul 26, 2011 12:31:43 GMT -5
Most if not all of Xavier's recruits have high level offers. They recruit very well. Semaj choosing Xavier doesn't prove things one way or the other in terms of his offers. He certainly had a number of major conference offers, Georgetown or otherwise.
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Post by bronxhoya87 on Jul 26, 2011 12:42:33 GMT -5
and you know this how?
If you are trying to play basketball in college, and you end up going to Xavier, you probably don't have many higher level offers.
Additionally, while KA and Semaj could have co-existed together well, that is something that KA did not want.
Finally, this is not about the players we are recruiting. This is about the players that we need and the scholarships we have. For the next two years we have TWO scholarships available. Do you really want two guards when we have such a ?? in the middle? If any of our big men develop or Bolden improves, I could see us going with a shooter but if that doesn't happen, I think JTIII will be looking for a big.[/quote]
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Post by HometownHoya on Jul 26, 2011 12:48:29 GMT -5
Did he have offers though? My original response was to dynasty's question about if we know if he had a signable offer. nyc, if you want to take the route that: "Semaj choosing Xavier doesn't prove things one way or the other in terms of his offers," you can't then say he certainly had a number of major conference offers.
I have no clue who offered him, signable or not, who showed interest, and who had him on the back burner but I do know this kid had G-town at the top of his list for a very long time (before he reclassified from '11 to '12). Maybe if you are KA you sit on top of offers from all the best schools until you can decide but for anyone not the top recruit, you need to move on your college choice or some of these windows will close.
I don't fault Semaj at all for deciding on Xavier. Its not fair to him to make him wait to decide until KA's decision. Also, looks like Xavier is putting together a solid class this year w/ Semaj and Myles so far.
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Post by HometownHoya on Jul 26, 2011 12:53:14 GMT -5
and you know this how? If you are trying to play basketball in college, and you end up going to Xavier, you probably don't have many higher level offers. Additionally, while KA and Semaj could have co-existed together well, that is something that KA did not want.Finally, this is not about the players we are recruiting. This is about the players that we need and the scholarships we have. For the next two years we have TWO scholarships available. Do you really want two guards when we have such a ?? in the middle? If any of our big men develop or Bolden improves, I could see us going with a shooter but if that doesn't happen, I think JTIII will be looking for a big. [/quote] How do you know anything you talk about Georgetown basketball? Could I be comletely wrong? Yes. But KA and his father have stated that KA wants to be a PG, not just one of the two combo guards. Additionally, lets say Semaj plays the 2-3, KA plays the 1,2,3,4. If you tell a kid you want to build a team around him (a team that already has 3 2-3s, a 1-2, and 2 3-4s), you can't be recruiting players to take his position. Its not like we are looking for a 5 man recruiting class. We have 1-2 spots available and the 2 is assuming we don't look forward to another strong class. Do you really want Bolden as our only 2012 recruit (even if he does break out)?
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Post by gtowndynasty on Jul 26, 2011 13:04:17 GMT -5
Gotcha Hometown. While in theory I am inclined to agree with you, just dont get how some can post such opinions with such conviction as if they were facts. how in the world would you know that KA did not want to play with Semaj unless KA or the staff told you so?? And I dont know if you have highly sensitive info like that at your disposal or not, but im inclined to believe you do not.
And Im not so sure that a recruit today, especially one that plays guard/wing, would agree with your assessment of Xavier. They have put just as many wings/guards in the L as Gtown has and have experienced as much if not more tourney success in the past 10 years cumulatively as we have. Very solid program.
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nychoya3
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Post by nychoya3 on Jul 26, 2011 13:23:54 GMT -5
Semaj has been hyped a LOT this summer. He's 6'4'' with point guard skills and he has shined at a variety of AAU events. Unless his grades were awful or there are other red flags, he had offers. Real offers. Xavier is pretty clearly a top 25 program nationally over the past five years, and they've done pretty well with guards.
I cannot prove whether he had a committable offer to Georgetown any more than you can prove that he didn't, and I don't really care. But I'm just debunking the silliness that Xavier is a low major offer when they habitually out recruit low and mid level major conference teams.
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Post by bronxhoya87 on Jul 26, 2011 13:32:35 GMT -5
Hometown.....you should never put speculation out there like it is fact. If it is only opinion let us know.
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KirbyKeger
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Post by KirbyKeger on Jul 26, 2011 14:03:25 GMT -5
Hometown, I'm not sure where you got that we only have 2 scholarships available over the next two years.. I'm pretty sure we have 3 scholarships over 2 years (2 this year, and 1 opening up with Hollis graduating in '13), and thats with Bolden already accounted for.
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hoyainspirit
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Post by hoyainspirit on Jul 26, 2011 14:57:11 GMT -5
Trying to keep up with all this stuff has my head hurting. Isn't Hollis on schedule to graduate in '12?
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Post by gtowndynasty on Jul 26, 2011 15:12:06 GMT -5
Trying to keep up with all this stuff has my head hurting. Isn't Hollis on schedule to graduate in '12? He is, but if his draft status is lousy, expect him to get a masters degree and come back for his senior year to a team with substantial potential. I mean that is what a player with any sense would do and he strikes me as such a player...
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Post by HoyaSinceBirth on Jul 26, 2011 15:32:50 GMT -5
I'm pretty sure if you go back and read the articles in this thread that semaj states only xavier and providence had officially offered with illinois and gtown showing interest.
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Post by SirSaxa on Jul 26, 2011 18:06:50 GMT -5
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Post by hoyaknockoff on Jul 26, 2011 19:09:20 GMT -5
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Post by hoyarooter on Jul 26, 2011 19:42:21 GMT -5
So now I guess we know. Unless Semaj made all of this up to cover the "fact" that he did not have an offer from the school he would have otherwise chosen.
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