zxhoya
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Post by zxhoya on Jul 21, 2011 13:34:40 GMT -5
The only video that I've seen of him, he's playing in a ymca rec league with absolutely no one playing defense. He looked real good, Hell, you probably could have scored 15, shunn
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Post by bronxhoya87 on Jul 21, 2011 13:39:55 GMT -5
This may change your view shunnnnn The only video that I've seen of him, he's playing in a ymca rec league with absolutely no one playing defense. He looked real good, Hell, you probably could have scored 15, shunn
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Post by hoyas big supporter on Jul 21, 2011 14:30:16 GMT -5
You don't pass up really good kids who want in for really good kids who are not sure. And if you watch his videos and say he is not going to be a game changer eventually you are insane shunnnn. You do pass up on really good kids for flat out great game changers.. (i.e. Britt over Christon). Being an athlete doesn't automatically make you a good defender, we should know that by now.
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Post by hoyas big supporter on Jul 21, 2011 14:33:36 GMT -5
This may change your view shunnnnn The only video that I've seen of him, he's playing in a ymca rec league with absolutely no one playing defense. He looked real good, Hell, you probably could have scored 15, shunn Theyre playing in a slightly glorified pick-up game..come on. I don't want to sound like I'm hating on the kid, because I like his game, but you're acting like this kid is friggin John Wall. Give it a break bro. Go take a vacation or something.. and oh I'd say Britt's body type and game is more Brandon Jennings than Chris Wright, or Markel for that matter. Just sayin' (but god forbid the Hoyas sign another Chris Wright...that would be oh so horrible.)
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Post by RDF on Jul 21, 2011 16:25:08 GMT -5
Britt is going to leave some fans in bitter disappointment if they think he's coming. He's waiting for the "bigger programs" to offer him and if not--he's Terps guy if they don't land the Harrisons. Georgetown is seen as a "safety" basketball wise for too many of the highly ranked players (specifically local kids) and that needs to change---move on from the guys who view your program as the "my friends/family can attend a lot of my games" attitude as a backup option to the guys who actually want to do something while at Georgetown.
Rule #1-100 in recruiting translation--if a kid says "I like Georgetown they are home....." that isn't a compliment. It's got to be a deal where someone views your program as a serious contender and believes in the fact they can win there.
Christon's handle as a HS senior is superior to Clark heading into his college SR year. He's also able to play fast and protect the ball and not turn it over and that hasn't been case for a decade. That is what is needed in the program--a guy who can provide change of pace, get guys out and run and make good decisions/value the ball. I really like that about Christon's game.
Britt is a very good player--not knocking his game--just dont' want to see Hoyas invest time/effort into a kid who keeps waiting for Duke, UNC, Kentucky, etc....to offer and then Maryland, and then if they don't--well I know Georgetown wants me.
Just because the program hasn't produced an NBA PG under III doesn't mean they can't and I want someone who wants to be THE GUY to break the mold and the guy to lead teammates to championships. The coach/program have proven all you need to prove in CBB except getting to the National Title game and winning it and we've got a bunch of local guys in HS that act like Georgetown is a MEAC program. Tired of it.
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Post by krukster201 on Jul 21, 2011 16:53:34 GMT -5
Well said RDF .. also , I still say the Kid from Philly will be the better college player then all our options not named Kyle Anderson for 2012 or 2013. Just my opinion from watching him live once (plus videos)
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Post by KirbyKeger on Jul 21, 2011 17:20:35 GMT -5
While I agree with you RDF, Georgetown needs to perform like a national contender in order for these top local recruits to treat it like one. I get the sense that most recruits see success mainly in terms of tournament results. Without a doubt, the last 3 years (NIT, first round, first round) have set us back a bit. I think a few tournament wins would go a long way in changing the way the school is viewed currently. While I, and others on this board, think that the Hoyas could be national title contenders in 2 years or so, recruits need to be shown that its a possibility before they declare a desire to come here mainly to win a national championship.
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Post by tonyparker on Jul 21, 2011 17:20:39 GMT -5
I generally agree with all of RDF's points.
But I think some of the Nate Britt assumptions may be a bit unfair (and I am someone who wrote on this board that I didn't think there was anyway Britt would come here) due to some "word on the street." I think we all may be a bit scarred by the recruitment of Quinn Cook, and the general DC Assault "beef," but I was told that Nate Britt and family are an independent unit from the Assault machine and that young Britt really likes JTIII and the Georgetown program. Doesn't mean he will come here, and he may just be waiting for those Tobacco Road offers, but the person who recently told me this knows enough about area hoops for me to hold out hope (at least until we sign another point guard or Britt signs elsewhere).
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Post by blueandgray on Jul 21, 2011 17:39:49 GMT -5
I like the Jennings call...minus some of the flash.
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Post by Dhall on Jul 21, 2011 18:26:38 GMT -5
Unless you are loaded, you don't let 2013 players dictate what you do for 2012 in any event. We are not loaded with talent at that position. Bird in hand ...
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Post by bronxhoya87 on Jul 21, 2011 21:46:44 GMT -5
We have smart people on this board and dumb people as well.
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Post by Filo on Jul 22, 2011 6:23:39 GMT -5
[/b]. The near 6-3 point guard changes gears quickly and has an explosive step to the basket. You're not going to take the ball from him and his athleticism -- especially in this class of points -- is particularly pronounced. He's high-major all the way and could be an under-the-radar impact lead guard.[/quote] Couldn't that sentence up there have a little bit to do with the recent lack of interest?
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Post by rosslynhoya on Jul 22, 2011 7:39:29 GMT -5
[/b]. The near 6-3 point guard changes gears quickly and has an explosive step to the basket. You're not going to take the ball from him and his athleticism -- especially in this class of points -- is particularly pronounced. He's high-major all the way and could be an under-the-radar impact lead guard.[/quote] Couldn't that sentence up there have a little bit to do with the recent lack of interest?[/quote] It could be from Semaj's perspective too. Maybe he's not all that interested in attending class or doing homework. Lots of room to speculate on what goes through a kid's head, but if his final 3 includes the academic juggernauts of UIUC and PC, then maybe it was mutually determined that he and GU are not a good match. I'd prefer a recruit like that hypothetical one figure that out BEFORE committing instead of realizing it a couple semesters into his time on the Hilltop.
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Post by BubbleVisionBiff on Jul 22, 2011 7:45:01 GMT -5
[/b]. The near 6-3 point guard changes gears quickly and has an explosive step to the basket. You're not going to take the ball from him and his athleticism -- especially in this class of points -- is particularly pronounced. He's high-major all the way and could be an under-the-radar impact lead guard.[/quote] Couldn't that sentence up there have a little bit to do with the recent lack of interest?[/quote] He reclassified back in April, so I think the grade issue was known. He visited GU after that, IIRC, so again, would think it was well known. III saw him at a tourney in WV as recently as 7/15, so who knows.
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Post by alonzosflattop on Jul 22, 2011 9:18:57 GMT -5
RDF sure must have been disappointed in that Jeff Green guy who settled for GU. And we all know how much you loved Austin Freeman who committed early. And you must have been disappointed in Wright who settled on GU after decommitting from NC State. I think broad generalizations like "we don't want kids who only want to be closer to home" are moronic. It's got to be a case by case basis. If JT3 stops recruiting DMV as you say, I think that would be a much bigger problem than not. Bad logic. If a kid wants to be closer to home, maybe it shows he's a good kid. Again, case by case.
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Post by RDF on Jul 22, 2011 10:16:14 GMT -5
RDF sure must have been disappointed in that Jeff Green guy who settled for GU. And we all know how much you loved Austin Freeman who committed early. And you must have been disappointed in Wright who settled on GU after decommitting from NC State. I think broad generalizations like "we don't want kids who only want to be closer to home" are moronic. It's got to be a case by case basis. If JT3 stops recruiting DMV as you say, I think that would be a much bigger problem than not. Bad logic. If a kid wants to be closer to home, maybe it shows he's a good kid. Again, case by case. There is a very interesting concept for some of you--it's called the ability to comprehend what is being written. If you are incapable and prove to be that way--just bypass responding. Since you want to jump in and ACT like you knew what was being said--then I'll set what was being said in a clearer way for you to understand: 1. Nowhere did I say to quit recruiting kids from the area. 2. Kids wanting to come to Georgetown locally because they think they can win and because they are winning are 2 different things. 3. The players you mentioned above all came to be a part of or start something in Jeff Green, Tyler Crawford, Roy Hibbert's case along with Wallace and PE JR, etc..... 4. Freeman and Wright stated they felt they could compete/win a National title at Georgetown. 5. Greg Whittington has stated he wanted to come because it was a program he felt he could develop and compete to win championships. All of that is what you are looking for. There have been SEVERAL and ARE SEVERAL players who Georgetown wastes time recruiting, attends their games during live period, wants to keep "good standing" with them, etc... and these guys are using Georgetown as a "last resort/fallback" option. Those guys need to be eliminated and it's more important for the program to get players from wherever that want/believe to come to the program. Otherwise, you lose out on several players instead of just one local guy who really didn't want to come--he just knew he had a place if his "preferred" offers didn't happen or he was bypassed by those schools. Make sense?
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Post by Filo on Jul 22, 2011 10:22:03 GMT -5
Couldn't that sentence up there have a little bit to do with the recent lack of interest? He reclassified back in April, so I think the grade issue was known. He visited GU after that, IIRC, so again, would think it was well known. III saw him at a tourney in WV as recently as 7/15, so who knows. Thanks for the further info.
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Post by BubbleVisionBiff on Jul 22, 2011 10:28:19 GMT -5
He reclassified back in April, so I think the grade issue was known. He visited GU after that, IIRC, so again, would think it was well known. III saw him at a tourney in WV as recently as 7/15, so who knows. Thanks for the further info. No problem. I wanted to look back in the thread to see when the reclassification happened. It would seem that we stayed in contact long after that (and maybe even because of that). After his FB posts about how he loved GU and us not on his mentioned list this week, something obviously happened. Not that I know what it is. Seemed like he could have filled a need, but who knows.
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Post by blueandgray on Jul 22, 2011 10:37:59 GMT -5
To rdf's point regarding eliminating certain players who are just wasting our time, I can't imagine cutting bait when a top recruit is listing you...even if it's somewhat of a long shot. take Kyle Anderson for example. I think we'd all agree that g'town has a good a chance of landing him as any of his last 5. That said, just 6 months ago anderson was giddy when unc and other top programs started to show interest. At what point to you drop out? IMHO, I think you stay on a kid until he definitively eliminates you from the running. I for one think it's way too early to eliminate britt as a player of interest.
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Post by alonzosflattop on Jul 22, 2011 11:54:46 GMT -5
There is a very interesting concept for some of you--it's called the ability to comprehend what is being written. If you are incapable and prove to be that way--just bypass responding. Since you want to jump in and ACT like you knew what was being said--then I'll set what was being said in a clearer way for you to understand: 1. Nowhere did I say to quit recruiting kids from the area. 2. Kids wanting to come to Georgetown locally because they think they can win and because they are winning are 2 different things. 3. The players you mentioned above all came to be a part of or start something in Jeff Green, Tyler Crawford, Roy Hibbert's case along with Wallace and PE JR, etc..... 4. Freeman and Wright stated they felt they could compete/win a National title at Georgetown. 5. Greg Whittington has stated he wanted to come because it was a program he felt he could develop and compete to win championships. All of that is what you are looking for. There have been SEVERAL and ARE SEVERAL players who Georgetown wastes time recruiting, attends their games during live period, wants to keep "good standing" with them, etc... and these guys are using Georgetown as a "last resort/fallback" option. Those guys need to be eliminated and it's more important for the program to get players from wherever that want/believe to come to the program. Otherwise, you lose out on several players instead of just one local guy who really didn't want to come--he just knew he had a place if his "preferred" offers didn't happen or he was bypassed by those schools. Make sense? While your condescending tone is much more noticeable than any facts, your premise is not logical. Basically, you're saying that as long as the kids who come to Georgetown say they want to compete once they get here that they are worth recruiting. Well, I argue that every recruit who Georgetown recruits, local or not, will say say they want to compete for a championship once they are signed. So recruit them all. Unless you can predict the future, there is no way of knowing which recruits are "saying" they take Georgetown seriously and which really do. If they show interest, recruit. So, no your argument doesn't make sense. Mine does.
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