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Post by RockawayHoya on Feb 12, 2011 19:06:11 GMT -5
The blog post that I read said the following:
1) Fab Melo benched because of his performance. Fab Melo says he has family issues, But Boeheim either didn't know and is finding about this now even though Melo thought Boeheim already knew, or Boeheim already knew about it and still doesn't care. Either way, a communcation problem for sure.
2) Boeheim whines about call because refs suck.
3) Rick Jackson probably fouled at some point but refs suck for missing it.
Seems like fans, staff and players are having a three way Editeding contest about who can cry more. So the answer to the original question in this thread is "no."
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Post by FrazierFanatic on Feb 12, 2011 19:24:06 GMT -5
The only team I know that whines about the refs at home, whines about the refs even though they shoot more foul shots, whines about the refs for every single call they dare to make against the Orangebabies.
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Post by FrazierFanatic on Feb 14, 2011 11:14:48 GMT -5
They're STILL whining about the offensive fouls a week later. Love how much the loss to us eats at them. My only concern is that if Boeheim keeps whining enough to the refs and the league, they will start letting Jackson dip his shoulder and blast his way through again, and he will actually start being effective again with the only move he has.
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Post by joey0403p on Feb 14, 2011 14:18:56 GMT -5
evreyone hates whining...but they call it 'working the refs' in the NBA for a reason. it does get you calls on occasion.
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Post by joey0403p on Feb 14, 2011 15:09:44 GMT -5
Just wondered over to their board... a few of them are ridiculous - but some seemed to actually have a rational approach. two things brought up by one poster that I would agree with...
the old refs are ridiculous. Burr, Cahll and some others have been around for decades. This can not lead to proper positioning - there is just no way.
secondly - there are a lot of anticipation calls. its gotten to the point now where if a ref calls a foul after it has occured everyone screams it was late. The reality is the whistle should come a second or two after the contact. at least to allow the ref to process what he saw before blowing the whistle.
I'm as bias'd as the next fan when watching g town games and do my best not to comment on the ref's during / after those games because it is impossible to be rational when watching my team. That said, watching other games where i don't have a rooting interest. I can say ref's are generally terrible; but outside of Duke - i've never really felt like 1 team got 'more' calls than another team. The charge call in college b ball is WILDLY inconsistent between games, sometimes in games between refs. Even something as objective as the 10 second violation has been inconsistent this year. I recall seeing a 10 second violation occur at both the 22 second (shot clock) mark AND the 26 second mark, both left me puzzled.
Really though - the anticipation calls are what upsets me the most. It is comical when watching other teams play - and blood boiling when watching our games.
again though - not sure you can say 1 team or a group of teams get the benefit more than others. (except duke - which is near criminal some years. granted i haven't watched them but a few mins here and there this year)
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Post by NCHoya on Feb 14, 2011 15:17:12 GMT -5
My biggest peeve with NCAA officiating is the block/charge call. In college, I find charges are called way too often, especially for the home team. I understand that it used to be the opposite almost to a fault, however, many of these "charges" are simply not the right call. Many times they are flops or the player slides in at the last moment. And why the NCAA does not put the half circle under the basket is beyond me.
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Post by joey0403p on Feb 14, 2011 16:34:27 GMT -5
I thought the half circle would be in ncaa by now. they've used it in sporadic preseason games. I think it is only a matter of time before it is instituted.
I'd also like to see the 3pt line come to some type of consistency with men's and women's. It has to be an adjustment for people to go back and forth between a gym set up for both and a gym only set up for the men. Plus the whole "it's one game" argument makes it pretty clear they just need to get together on it. I don't have any data - but i didn't think there was a huge difference (except perhaps in the season it was implemented) in % of made 3's between the year it was closer and now. Just come to an agreement and make both men's and women's the same. (i'd think ball size would be in this category too - but whatever)
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Post by tashoya on Feb 14, 2011 18:23:36 GMT -5
My biggest peeve with NCAA officiating is the block/charge call. In college, I find charges are called way too often, especially for the home team. I understand that it used to be the opposite almost to a fault, however, many of these "charges" are simply not the right call. Many times they are flops or the player slides in at the last moment. And why the NCAA does not put the half circle under the basket is beyond me. Thanks a lot Duke you floor-slapping pansies!
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Post by tashoya on Feb 14, 2011 18:24:54 GMT -5
I thought the half circle would be in ncaa by now. they've used it in sporadic preseason games. I think it is only a matter of time before it is instituted. I'd also like to see the 3pt line come to some type of consistency with men's and women's. It has to be an adjustment for people to go back and forth between a gym set up for both and a gym only set up for the men. Plus the whole "it's one game" argument makes it pretty clear they just need to get together on it. I don't have any data - but i didn't think there was a huge difference (except perhaps in the season it was implemented) in % of made 3's between the year it was closer and now. Just come to an agreement and make both men's and women's the same. (i'd think ball size would be in this category too - but whatever) I think they could certainly make the half circle and make the men's college 3 the NBA 3. I'd love to see that. As for the women's/men's differences, I think they make more sense.
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Post by HoyaSinceBirth on Feb 14, 2011 19:58:27 GMT -5
they didn't initially put the half circle in because there was a period where they weren't allowed to put any new lines on the court. They don't want to be changing the look of the court all the time. Since they added the men's line recently they weren't allowed to add the half circle right away. They put the half circle in during the "preseason" tourneys this year to test them out. Not sure when they're allowed to put them on the courts officially but as soon as they are the half circles will be there.
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