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Post by HoyaFanNY on Jan 6, 2011 10:15:26 GMT -5
Michigan was 3-9 in Rich Rodriguez's first year following a 9-4 season under Lloyd Carr. SDSU's W/L record for the past 5 seasons2006: 3-9 (Chuck Long) 2007: 4-8 (Long) 2008: 2-10 (Long) 2009: 4-8 (Hoke) 2010: 9-4 (Hoke) losses @mizzou, @byu, @tcu, Utah As usual, W/L records don't tell the full story. As a casual follower of TCU/Mountain West football, I have seen a handful of San Diego State games over the past few years. Hoke inherited a joke of a program. And those four losses this season? They came at Mizzou by 3 points, at BYU by 3, at TCU by 5, and versus Utah by 4. I'm not saying Hoke should be the next coach at UM (far from it), but it's interesting that the mere mention of his name provokes shrieks from the Michigan faithful. What's that you were saying a few pages back about hubris and coaching hires? Personally, I hope the Wolverines hire someone great. CFB is much more fun when Michigan, Notre Dame, and the rest of the classic football schools (no hifi, Florida isn't included) have strong programs. I also have a passing interest in the MWC. I see your point that Hoke had some narrow losses, but at the same time SDSU beat exactly one team with a winning record in the regular season. Other than that game (AF), the best team they beat in conference ended up with 3 wins on the year. Out of conference, their best win was over 4-win Utah State. They beat Navy convincingly in their bowl game as well, for what it's worth. However, given Navy's schedule, I personally don't think he should get the Michigan job because of it. I guess at the end of the day it comes down to what the SD columnist wrote in the article posted yesterday: "As much as I like Hoke, and I like him plenty, he really hasn’t done a hell of a lot." Maybe it would work out, but I would think Michigan can and must do better personally. In sum, I think one of the Michigan blogs said it best: if Hoke had been an assistant at Michigan State instead of Michigan, his name would never have come up in this process. that quote was from a person that hates the idea of hoke as head coach. if tressel wasn't an assistant for osu and then coached a successful subdivision school not named youngstown st then he would have never been head coach at osu. it's the same thing. hoke is a very legit candidate, regardless of where he coached.
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Post by adlai on Jan 6, 2011 10:29:04 GMT -5
The minor difference between Tressel and Hoke is that Tressel won four championships and finished second twice at a subdivision school. While the hiring was controversial at the time due to the level of competition he faced, it's impossible to say that he was not highly successful at that level. Hoke on the other hand has never even won a conference championship and only played in the MAC title game once. Their resumes do seem a bit different.
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Post by SFHoya99 on Jan 6, 2011 10:35:41 GMT -5
Who was that SD columnist? Canepa? If it was, I'd hire Hoke right away. Canepa's never been right about anything.
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Post by hifigator on Jan 6, 2011 15:10:08 GMT -5
Here we were having a nice conversation and then rooter had to go and bring up Florida....... Love you too, Boz.
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Post by HoyaFanNY on Jan 7, 2011 13:44:22 GMT -5
harbaugh is either staying at stanford or going to michigan. yes, i still think there is a chance he ends up in AA. now that his nfl tour is over, brandon can do his magic and pray bo speaks to harbaugh from the grave.
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Post by adlai on Jan 7, 2011 13:47:10 GMT -5
harbaugh is either staying at stanford or going to michigan. yes, i still think there is a chance he ends up in AA. now that his nfl tour is over, brandon can do his magic and pray bo speaks to harbaugh from the grave. I'm not getting my hopes up, but I really hope you're right.
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Post by hoyaLS05 on Jan 7, 2011 16:06:05 GMT -5
49ers, unfortunately.
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Post by SirSaxa on Jan 7, 2011 16:42:29 GMT -5
The 49ers can only hope he works out half as well as the last Stanford coach they hired! Bummer for the Cardinal though. It will be very interesting to see who they bring in (or promote) to replace him.
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Post by SFHoya99 on Jan 7, 2011 18:11:36 GMT -5
Walsh may have been at Stanford, but he also had prior NFL experience, serving with a couple of teams before going to Stanford.
It's a lot of money for someone with no NFL coaching experience.
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Post by HoyaFanNY on Jan 10, 2011 5:48:37 GMT -5
no nfl HEAD coaching experience.
well, move on to les is guess.
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Post by SFHoya99 on Jan 10, 2011 12:45:36 GMT -5
I didn't realize Harbaugh was an NFL assistant for two years. It's not much, but it's something.
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Post by HoyaFanNY on Jan 10, 2011 14:16:26 GMT -5
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Post by hifigator on Jan 10, 2011 14:23:10 GMT -5
Quack-Quack-Quack! Let's go Ducks!
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Post by kchoya on Jan 10, 2011 14:30:07 GMT -5
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Post by hifigator on Jan 10, 2011 16:04:52 GMT -5
Actually, it's the greed in me pulling for my son. His birthday is Christmas Eve. and for one of his presents I gave him an entry into the bowl pool downtown. Now several weeks later, there are exactly 2 people who could still win: and Auburn gives it to the other guy and an Oregon gives it to my son. So let's go Ducks! Quack-Quack-Quack attack!!!
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Post by jerseyhoya34 on Jan 10, 2011 20:47:56 GMT -5
I'm going with Auburn. Both teams seem a little tight in the early going, as is to be expected.
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Post by AustinHoya03 on Jan 10, 2011 21:11:24 GMT -5
Not that the Oregon defense needs any help right now, but how many holds has Auburn gotten away with in the first quarter?
On edit: Answer -- not as many as the number of missed reads by Oregon's Thomas.
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Post by jerseyhoya34 on Jan 10, 2011 23:07:29 GMT -5
I think Auburn is generally a crisper team and has controlled the tempo by keeping the offense on the field pretty well. Seem to be getting the right play at the right time.
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Post by thebin on Jan 11, 2011 0:17:35 GMT -5
The Duck qb looked like total schite all night, then it all made sense when i saw the smiles on his face seconds both just before and just after his team lost the national title game ...when his only concern seemed to be high-fiving Cam Newton before he lost the chance. Cowardly and confused performance by thomas followed by a disgusting display of nonchalance. He was not suited for the occasion in any way.
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Post by williambraskyiii on Jan 11, 2011 0:29:23 GMT -5
Duck qb looked like schite all night, then it all made sense when i saw the smiles on his face seconds both just before and just after his team lost the national title game ...when his only concern seemed to be high-fiving Cam Newton before he lost the chance. Cowardly and confused performance by thomas followed by a disgusting display of nonchalance. He was not suited for the occasion in any way. Same observations all around. Wow, should have watched Oregon a few times before deciding to put money on them. Other than 1-2 good throws, that Oregon QB was horrific in both his decision-making and execution. It looked like they were running the option in slow-motion. Auburn didn't really win that game as much as Oregon squandered chance after chance in the red zone. As close as that game was ultimately, the ending was incredibly anti-climactic to me. Oh well, glad college football is over. On to the stretch run for college bball...hopefully the Hoyas are prominently involved!
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