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Post by thebin on Jan 11, 2011 0:39:47 GMT -5
He looked panicked out there, like his mind was made up who was getting the rock, coverage be damned, before each snap and he wanted to get rid of the ball as fast as possible before he got hit. That i could forgive. Not joshing it up on the sidelines as they lost like it was an intrasquad scrimmage.
Never seen such a clear case of a player looking like he just didnt want it that badly.
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Post by RusskyHoya on Jan 11, 2011 1:22:54 GMT -5
He looked panicked out there, like his mind was made up who was getting the rock, coverage be damned, before each snap and he wanted to get rid of the ball as fast as possible before he got hit. That i could forgive. Not joshing it up on the sidelines as they lost like it was an intrasquad scrimmage. Never seen such a clear case of a player looking like he just didnt want it that badly. He's spent the season playing second fiddle to a Heisman Trophy candidate RB and a running game that was averaging 300 yards per game. When that was stymied, he was in uncharted waters and largely at a loss. As an Auburn fan, I'm really just stunned. I thought bringing in Chizik was a terrible move... and then Cam Newton came out of nowhere... Lots of credit is due to players like Fairley (even if he does think he's the second coming of Warren Sapp and is a punk far too frequently), Dyer, Kodi Burns, a truly grizzled offensive line that made the difference in many a game, and Wes Byrum, who lucked into a kicker's dream - hitting the game-winning field goal... from 19 yards out. I just hope that Newton & Co. really did get scared off by the Mississippi State fiasco, decided to wait a year until their NFL payoff, and this one is still on the books in 20 years.
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Post by AustinHoya03 on Jan 11, 2011 1:26:29 GMT -5
The Duck qb looked like total schite all night, then it all made sense when i saw the smiles on his face seconds both just before and just after his team lost the national title game ...when his only concern seemed to be high-fiving Cam Newton before he lost the chance. Cowardly and confused performance by thomas followed by a disgusting display of nonchalance. He was not suited for the occasion in any way. Unfortunately, that's typical in today's CFB world, where coaches increasingly say that "we play for us -- and that's it." (Whatever that means.) Thomas looked like a guy who doesn't give a flip about winning a championship for his school/football program. Where the hell is Lagarrette Blount when you need him to wipe a postgame smile off someone's face? Overall, I didn't think either team executed well. Where were the "genius" plays from Malzahn and Kelly? Mediocre game from Newton, who was lucky to have Dyer in the backfield tonight. I thought the major difference tonight was Auburn's defensive front, which did an excellent job of shutting down Oregon's rushing attack. Thomas never got to the outside, and James couldn't get much between the tackles, either. SEC fans will grow to be even more intolerable next season.
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Post by RDF on Jan 11, 2011 1:39:48 GMT -5
The spread killed Oregon tonight. Lamichael James is a "system" running back--he couldn't get the ball out of his own endzone on the safety--he's out of the game with a sore pinky finger (tape the damn thing to the ring finger and get back on the field) and they get stuffed from the 2 yd line with 4 running plays. You have to be able to get under center and provide defense some different looks--because what is use of having ball at the 1/2 yard line if you are going to take the ball at the 6 to begin a running play? The safety was just poor. Great backs get out of that--and he's great in space and lousy in traffic. It's why anyone who hypes him for NFL doesn't understand the NFL game at all and can't evaluate players on different levels. That was a horrific run that cost his team 9 pts in what ends up a 3 pt loss. Get into a weightroom and show some toughness.
Key was Auburn was better upfront and I give Oregon credit for hanging in there. They only played 1 truly great opponent in Stanford--who ran out of gas at Autzen and like all Oregon teams--they weren't very good away from Autzen for most part. Be it the Washington State game, the Cal game or the Oregon State game. They were getting worse offensively as season progressed--even the Arizona game in Eugene was a game for nearly 3 quarters and none of those teams were very good this year. Oregon defense played a nice game when they had to--and just got a gift from Malzahn when he didn't have a back in game when Auburn should've put it away. If he's got Dyer or even McCaleb on field with Newton--Matthews can't chase backside because he's got to hold for the zone/read.
Thomas isn't a great runner and that limits the Ducks. Cal was only team that really forced him to run the ball and he's not good at it. It limits their effectiveness but so many teams in Pac 10 don't have that DL that Auburn has---those guys are big/quick and they ate up Ducks OL--which is why Kelly uses the system he does--he has crappy OL and marginal talent-so he uses tempo to control game and conditioning to try and wear out opponents.
Any team that has time to prepare for Kelly's team gives him fits. It was Boise St to being year last season, Ohio State in bowl game. Then you see what Auburn did tonight. If you can prepare for the tempo and whip anyone upfront--doesn't matter how quick they want to go-because you will be getting into the backfield or hitting the QB.
Fun game to watch--but thought Oregon did a helluva job staying close--because Auburn was 2-3 TD's more talented and left a lot of scores on the field imo.
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Post by HoyaFanNY on Jan 11, 2011 6:28:44 GMT -5
this game looked like a season opener for both teams. the 30+ day break really hurts the game. the ncaa could care less but both teams looked rusty from the start.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 11, 2011 8:50:48 GMT -5
Congratulations to the 2010-2011 NCAA Division I Football Champions: The Eastern Washington Eagles.
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Post by HoyaFanNY on Jan 11, 2011 12:49:00 GMT -5
the 'national search' for the next michigan coach has now officially reached a Stage 5 clusterEdited.
jim harbaugh
jon gruden
gary pinkel
les miles
brady hoke??? come on down!
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Post by kchoya on Jan 11, 2011 13:45:13 GMT -5
Apparently they changed the rulebook on when you're "down" and when you're not.
I don't blame James for not getting out of the endzone on the safety. The Auburn defenders where in the backfield before he even got the ball.
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Post by kchoya on Jan 11, 2011 13:47:32 GMT -5
Dan Jenkins' tweet got me to thinking - I think TCU would've beaten either of those teams last night.
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Post by hoyarooter on Jan 11, 2011 14:10:05 GMT -5
Apparently they changed the rulebook on when you're "down" and when you're not. I don't blame James for not getting out of the endzone on the safety. The Auburn defenders where in the backfield before he even got the ball. Dyer wasn't down. Kind of a flukey play to ultimately decide the national championship, but kudos to Auburn's sideline urging Dyer to keep running.
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Post by Boz on Jan 11, 2011 16:20:13 GMT -5
Hoke it is. That was just well done from start to finish. On a related note, how on God's freaking name did we lose to these guys?[/url] (We being Georgetown, that is)
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Post by hifigator on Jan 11, 2011 16:27:44 GMT -5
Well, after that long and entertaining bowl season, my son's pool entry came up just short. An Oregon win last night and he would have taken the $1020 pot. Instead, he came in tied for 2nd and gets a round of "attaboys" in our little annual winner take all. That kind of sucked. Losing like that was awful. To fight back and get both the late TD and the 2 point conversion, only to let them go right down the field with no opposition absolutely sucked.
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Post by hifigator on Jan 11, 2011 16:42:24 GMT -5
As much as I really, really wanted the Quack attack to pull it out last night, it still tough to be too upset as an SEC fan. As most already know, that is now 5 straight Natty Tites for the SEC. Once again there is zero doubt what the best college football conference in the land is. Additionally, those 5 titles were won by 4 different teams! Further, in the 13 year history of the BCS, the SEC has now won over half of the championships, with 6 different teams combining to win 7 National Championships.
The SEC: Kings of College Football
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Post by RusskyHoya on Jan 11, 2011 17:01:37 GMT -5
Congratulations to the 2010-2011 NCAA Division I Football Champions: The Eastern Washington Eagles. Should we really be commending and encouraging a team that installed a bright red turf field? This is a mini-fad that needs to be killed quickly, unless we want to see Syracuse playing on an orange field at the dome and Oregon alternating between fields of neon green, diamond tooth thatched, and thousands of Nike logos on a weekly basis.
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Post by adlai on Jan 11, 2011 19:20:31 GMT -5
the 'national search' for the next michigan coach has now officially reached a Stage 5 cluster Edited. jim harbaughjon grudengary pinkelles milesbrady hoke??? come on down! Mary Sue Coleman should do the right thing and fire Dave Brandon after this debacle. So far, he's managed to not get a JH or a big name coach, get Robinson to transfer, and chase off at least half of the recruiting class. All that to actually downgrade from a RichRod to Hoke and force another painful transition back to a pro-style offense. What a disaster.
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Post by Boz on Jan 11, 2011 20:07:49 GMT -5
Is Robinson transferring? I had not heard anyone reporting that. Not that it would surprise me. Just saying all I've heard is bloggers saying "he'll probably transfer." Wait. DFW....is this OK to talk about?
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Post by AustinHoya03 on Jan 11, 2011 22:45:13 GMT -5
Mary Sue Coleman should do the right thing and fire Dave Brandon after this debacle. So far, he's managed to not get a JH or a big name coach, get Robinson to transfer, and chase off at least half of the recruiting class. All that to actually downgrade from a RichRod to Hoke and force another painful transition back to a pro-style offense. What a disaster. Fire Brandon! Fire Coleman! Everyone should be fired! After the firings, UM should go out and hire the best university president and AD available. Unless they don't want to come to Michigan. Then they should get the next best thing. And if that doesn't work out, then the board should probably just keeping looking and eventually hire the current president at The University of Louisiana - Monroe and the AD at Weber State. ON EDIT -- I thought MGoBlog's video response to the hire was pretty funny: mgoblog.com/content/its-hoke
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Post by HoyaFanNY on Jan 12, 2011 5:50:59 GMT -5
brian cook (mgoblog) is the typical rodriguez apologist. they pi$$ and moan for 3 years that he never got a fair shot and people didn't like him before he even coached a game yet they are doing the same thing to hoke. he's a hypocrite. rodriguez was a massive failure. there isn't any debate. not to mention the ncaa problems. i'd love to see the half a recruting class that has been chased off or anywhere that reports denard transferring other than blog posts from pro rodriguez marks. he might transfer but he hasn't yet. if he does, so be it. devin gardner is sold on michigan and so are most of the other players from everything i've read.
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Post by adlai on Jan 12, 2011 7:34:38 GMT -5
brian cook (mgoblog) is the typical rodriguez apologist. they pi$$ and moan for 3 years that he never got a fair shot and people didn't like him before he even coached a game yet they are doing the same thing to hoke. he's a hypocrite. rodriguez was a massive failure. there isn't any debate. not to mention the ncaa problems. i'd love to see the half a recruting class that has been chased off or anywhere that reports denard transferring other than blog posts from pro rodriguez marks. he might transfer but he hasn't yet. if he does, so be it. devin gardner is sold on michigan and so are most of the other players from everything i've read. Are you seriously implying that in retrospect you would have fired RichRod weeks before signing day knowing that we would replace him with Brady Hoke? I don't think it's a stretch to say that Brandon seriously butchered this process. In my book, a fourth year for RichRod with something like twenty starters returning would have been preferable to hiring Hoke after everyone else turned us down. Moreover, giving RichRod another year might at least have made other coaches with more substantial resumes than Hoke believe they might get a full chance to improve the program before getting run out of town. While I hope I'm wrong, I really can't see how Brandon could have done worse. If Hoke was the endgame, we could have had him next year or the year after. Plus, then he might have even have had a career winning percentage over .500.
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Post by HoyaFanNY on Jan 12, 2011 9:04:33 GMT -5
brian cook (mgoblog) is the typical rodriguez apologist. they pi$$ and moan for 3 years that he never got a fair shot and people didn't like him before he even coached a game yet they are doing the same thing to hoke. he's a hypocrite. rodriguez was a massive failure. there isn't any debate. not to mention the ncaa problems. i'd love to see the half a recruting class that has been chased off or anywhere that reports denard transferring other than blog posts from pro rodriguez marks. he might transfer but he hasn't yet. if he does, so be it. devin gardner is sold on michigan and so are most of the other players from everything i've read. Are you seriously implying that in retrospect you would have fired RichRod weeks before signing day knowing that we would replace him with Brady Hoke? I don't think it's a stretch to say that Brandon seriously butchered this process. In my book, a fourth year for RichRod with something like twenty starters returning would have been preferable to hiring Hoke after everyone else turned us down. Moreover, giving RichRod another year might at least have made other coaches with more substantial resumes than Hoke believe they might get a full chance to improve the program before getting run out of town. While I hope I'm wrong, I really can't see how Brandon could have done worse. If Hoke was the endgame, we could have had him next year or the year after. Plus, then he might have even have had a career winning percentage over .500. harbaugh was never an option given his desire for the nfl. miles may not have been offered the job since he tends to play a little fast and loose with ncaa rules and brandon doesn't want to go down that road again. so yes, hoke may very well have been the best choice since harbaugh didn't want the job. you are insane if you think bringing rodriguez back was a good option. his best win in 3 years was what? notre dame? wisconsin choke job his first year? please. the guy was a complete failure and had to go. quit crying about rich not getting a 'chance'. 3 years of the worst football in the history of michigan is chance enough. i don't care what hoke's record is. he brought two teams from garbage to bowls.
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