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Post by wrestlemania on Mar 28, 2010 19:04:34 GMT -5
Early reviews on the Iowa boards re: McC are pretty mixed -- some see it as Licklater all over again, others have a more grounded view of where the program is at right now.
Some of this has to be about McCaffrey's ability to recruit the east coast. Iowa is having trouble getting in-state guys to stay (and there aren't that many of them to begin with), and it won't get any better now that Northern Iowa is perceived as the better program.
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Post by DanMcQ on Mar 28, 2010 20:04:07 GMT -5
FWIW, one of the BC hierarchy told me a few months back that Skinner was the laziest guy at BC---maybe he's a great bench coach and has a very good staff, I'm not sure how hard he'll push with a LTerm guaranteed contract--he is coasting now at BC off his early real success. Interesting opinion for the predominantly white Irish Catholic Boston area hierarchy running that school to express. |
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Post by RusskyHoya on Mar 28, 2010 20:37:52 GMT -5
FWIW, one of the BC hierarchy told me a few months back that Skinner was the laziest guy at BC---maybe he's a great bench coach and has a very good staff, I'm not sure how hard he'll push with a LTerm guaranteed contract--he is coasting now at BC off his early real success. Interesting opinion for the predominantly white Irish Catholic Boston area hierarchy running that school to express. The deep south? Boston? Isn't that the place where the black guys are really lazy and all the white guys are just as lazy but they're mad at the black guys for being so lazy? |
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Post by damnhoya on Mar 28, 2010 22:07:34 GMT -5
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Post by jgalt on Mar 28, 2010 22:24:00 GMT -5
Am I the only one that thinks SJU (or any major conference team looking for a coach) should be going all-out to get Brad Stevens of Butler? And I don't say that only as a reaction to this year's Final Four -- Butler has won 4 consecutive Horizon league championships and plays an impressive brand of basketball. Plus having him at SJU would be great cuz we know exactly how to beat that system or should I say, crush it. No, youre not. He would a great hire for them. But i would have to think he would rather stay at Butler even if they cant pay him as much. Coaching Butler, like coaching Xavier, has got to be a pretty sweet job. You have good support from the school and fans, but the fans dont expect you to win a championship every year so you have pretty good job security even if you dont make the tourney. Plus at Butler you are in Indy where the recruiting is pretty good. If it were up to me i would stay at Butler until a place like UCLA or Kansas (basically a superpower) came calling. |
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Post by FLHoya on Mar 28, 2010 22:57:48 GMT -5
Coaching Butler, like coaching Xavier, has got to be a pretty sweet job. You have good support from the school and fans, but the fans dont expect you to win a championship every year so you have pretty good job security even if you dont make the tourney. Plus at Butler you are in Indy where the recruiting is pretty good. If it were up to me i would stay at Butler until a place like UCLA or Kansas (basically a superpower) came calling. I mean, Xavier is basically a coaching factory for major conference schools. Off the top of my head, Pete Gillen, Skip Prosser, Sean Miller, and Thad Matta went through there. There's probably more. Sort of like a coaching prep school. I'm sure it's a great job though--good program and it certainly does wonders for your career. I'd rather see Stevens stick around Indianapolis personally. The McCaffery hire at Iowa is a roundabout reminder that the last guy to jump from Butler didn't work out in his new job. Something cool about a (albeit older) guy like Jim Larranaga making it to the Final Four with the "little guy" and staying around and being happy. |
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Post by DanMcQ on Mar 28, 2010 23:48:35 GMT -5
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Post by hoyarooter on Mar 29, 2010 12:22:22 GMT -5
Please, St. John's, don't do this. Let Lavs stay at ESPN where he's decent. Take it from me, you can do WAY better. Like by hiring me, for instance, and I don't profess to be a coach.
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Post by NCHoya on Mar 29, 2010 13:37:49 GMT -5
Am I the only one that thinks SJU (or any major conference team looking for a coach) should be going all-out to get Brad Stevens of Butler? And I don't say that only as a reaction to this year's Final Four -- Butler has won 4 consecutive Horizon league championships and plays an impressive brand of basketball. Plus having him at SJU would be great cuz we know exactly how to beat that system or should I say, crush it. No, youre not. He would a great hire for them. But i would have to think he would rather stay at Butler even if they cant pay him as much. Coaching Butler, like coaching Xavier, has got to be a pretty sweet job. You have good support from the school and fans, but the fans dont expect you to win a championship every year so you have pretty good job security even if you dont make the tourney. Plus at Butler you are in Indy where the recruiting is pretty good. If it were up to me i would stay at Butler until a place like UCLA or Kansas (basically a superpower) came calling. Stevens is quite young, I agree he can wait it out a little bit longer before jumping. Once Hayward leaves, he should probably start looking outside. Until then, he really cannot screw it up at Butler. My biggest concern with him would be recruiting prowess, especially if he left the midwest. But a FF gives a coach a lot of credibility with ADs and recruits alike. |
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Post by SFHoya99 on Mar 29, 2010 14:08:50 GMT -5
He should pay attention to the fact that his predecessor jumped to Iowa and failed miserably.
He can afford to wait for a job in a reasonable situation.
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Post by DFW HOYA on Mar 29, 2010 14:11:57 GMT -5
Not that he's a candidate (he's practically in the coaches' witness protection program at SMU) but at least Matt Doherty is up front about his thoughts on St. John's: "Well, you know, I'm a New Yorker. My sister went there. My niece went there. It's not a good job. I mean, I'm just going to tell you straight up. St. John's has a little bit of an inflated feeling about themselves. It's not a good job. Paul Hewitt has a better job. Billy Donovan has a way better job." content.usatoday.com/communities/campusrivalry/post/2010/03/smu-coach-matt-dougherty-st-johns-is-not-a-good-job/1 |
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Post by theexorcist on Mar 29, 2010 14:14:23 GMT -5
No, youre not. He would a great hire for them. But i would have to think he would rather stay at Butler even if they cant pay him as much. Coaching Butler, like coaching Xavier, has got to be a pretty sweet job. You have good support from the school and fans, but the fans dont expect you to win a championship every year so you have pretty good job security even if you dont make the tourney. Plus at Butler you are in Indy where the recruiting is pretty good. If it were up to me i would stay at Butler until a place like UCLA or Kansas (basically a superpower) came calling. Stevens is quite young, I agree he can wait it out a little bit longer before jumping. Once Hayward leaves, he should probably start looking outside. Until then, he really cannot screw it up at Butler. My biggest concern with him would be recruiting prowess, especially if he left the midwest. But a FF gives a coach a lot of credibility with ADs and recruits alike. I'm actually not convinced of the need to leave. Butler, unlike GMU, has a longtime basktball pedigree and has dominated their conference. Butler can essentially become a better version of Gonzaga. And, not to put to fine an egoist point on it, but if he stays, he can become a god. If you're the coach at Kansas, you are just another coach in front of the Swaying Wheat. But, if you take Butler to consistent power status, you become the school. |
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Post by FromTheBeginning on Mar 29, 2010 16:51:29 GMT -5
In order to be in the coaches witness protection program, you really should have to have some credentials as a coach.
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Post by DanMcQ on Mar 29, 2010 18:56:24 GMT -5
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Post by jerseyhoya34 on Mar 30, 2010 0:46:19 GMT -5
According to media reports (Thamel and others), the Redmen are set to hire Lavin with an announcement to follow Wednesday morning. If this ends up happening, I think it is about as good as they could do with their search - high risk but high reward. If they can come up with enough cash to add Leitao and Rohrssen, wow...
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Post by DanMcQ on Mar 30, 2010 5:03:18 GMT -5
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Post by 757hoyafan on Mar 30, 2010 8:21:27 GMT -5
Skinner is out!
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Post by DanMcQ on Mar 30, 2010 8:46:59 GMT -5
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Post by TC on Mar 30, 2010 8:49:15 GMT -5
Interview with a job at another school while working for BC, get fired (hello Jagodzinski!). That's gotta hurt their future coaching search - who is going to want to work for DeFilippo?
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