Chris Wright Discussion

[roysgirlfriend]

I almost died when he threw the ball away out of bounds when we got the deficit down to 9 and WVU started the 1-3-1. Dribble a little son. Wright has been doing this all year. He is not a Big East caliber point guard. He has no ability to run the offense and make smart decisions.

In before "how many games has Chris Wright won for us." Yes, he can also be a deadly scorer and he creates opportunities for other scorers with his drives. But I would not accept that tradeoff because he can just flat out lose games for us with his lack of control.

That is not what the JTIII teams were like in good old days. Those teams valued smart, careful basketball. Not running around like chickens with our heads cut off.

[the_way]

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[Filo]

Ahh, the good old days. When men were men, sheep were sheep, and Hoya basketball players never turned the ball over.

Mods, please lock this lame excuse for a thread.

[FrazierFanatic]

Chris has been a factor in losses - just like pretty much every guy on the team. I was unhappy that Chris was making bad decisions and forcing way too much in the first half, but then I saw him play his heart out trying to help us get back in, and I couldn't stay on his case. Just a tough night all around. Gotta try to wipe it off our memories and stay positive for Saturday. If all are healthy, Chris and the guys will get it done.

[ColumbiaHeightsHoya]

In the good old days, everyone ridiculed John Wallace for his lack of athleticism. There will always be complainers of which this board has an abundance.

[SFHoya99]

Chris was my first half of BE season MVP, and for good reason. He was a very good player, and the "Big 3" moniker made a lot of sense. We had a 2 seed, had a shot at the Big East title, etc.

In the last five games before WVU, Chris' O Rating has dropped to 100, his assist rate to 15, and his 3 pt % has fallen to 18%.

It's amazing, but one of the reasons Chris is so streaky is almost entirely because his three-point shooting is incredibly streaky. That doesn't explain the lack of playmaking, of course.

He's slumping.

[jjherr27]

I feel like since he jacked that 3 when all we needed was 2 he has been out of his element. Its almost like his confidence is lacking a bit. I hope he gets it back in time for the BET.

[the_way]

Chris Wright is a creative talent, that is being stifled with the system.

his talent is being wasted.

he is thinking too much out there, and not just playing.

now compare him with a guy like Greg who was born to play in this system. Greg doesn't have to adjust.

I'm afraid Wright will still have growing pains next year unless III makes an adjustment.

[SFHoya99]

Chris Wright was doing great this year until he stopped hitting his outside shots and the team stopped rebounding so we stopped fast breaking.

[skyhoya]

Chris is just following JTIII's direction and adjustments. Perhaps some of the TOs were other player's failure to understand our system. Without Chris as the general on the floor, we flounder around alot.

[lurkerhoya]

I was talking about this yesterday with someone, and I think a lot of CW's deficiencies, if we'll call them that, stem from his inability to truly jump stop.

The easy comparison for CW is with AI, but AI had a knack for getting in the lane and drawing contact that CW simply cannot. That ability came from the ability to get in the lane, draw a defender off-balance with a jump stop, maybe even get him in the air, and then still have the ability to get to the rim. Chris just doesn't have that ability, so instead he just barrels into the lane, which means defenders know where he's going and don't even need to leave their feet to stop him.

If Chris was drawing loads of fouls per game, I think many of us would feel differently about a lot of his plays since he'd be going to the line for points (and subsequently getting his flow going from the field) instead of what he term 'Bad Chris' plays that are essentially turnovers.

So, Chris, if you're reading this, get those goofy looking shoes and get some vertical for next season.

[tashoya]

I'm confused as to how Chris is being wasted. He's not a great passer, though he's very good at times. He's not great at getting to the basket, though he's solid at times. He's not a great shooter, though he's really good at times. And his decision-making is not great but has been in certain games. Every one of these aspects is valued immensely by our system and Chris has improved in every aspect. I expect he'll continue to.

If we were a team with the run and gun, I'm sure Chris would have sexier numbers but he certainly wouldn't be improving as a player the way our system is forcing him to.

[NCHoya]

OK, let me get this straight after a game in which Chris goes for 21 pts, 6 boards, 7 assists to just 2 TOs we are having this discussion? We are focusing on one freaking TO in the span of a 40 minute game as evidence that he is not playing well. We are also talking about the only guy on the floor that plays hard the whole game.

Some of you are pathetic and will use any excuse to bash these players.

Not that I am looking for one, but if you want a scapegoat how about the other guard that had 6 TOs and has played zero defense the last month!

[lurkerhoya]

Fair point NC, but as I pointed out, he had well more than 2 TOs that don't show up on the stat sheet. To me, ill-advised drives to the hoop that result in a block are not simply missed FGs.

[SFHoya99]

But they are missed FGs. You can't double count them as turnovers.

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If you are going to pick on a guard for this game, it shouldn't be Chris. He wasn't great early but fueled the pseudo-comeback, and if others had played better, it might have been a real comeback.

[rustyshackleford]

Chris does kind of resemble a Kevin Braswell plus sometimes, but he is central to this team making any type of run in the tourney. And if we're going to start harping on great players who do stupid things sometimes we need to start talking about Greg's 4-5 turnovers per game or Jason's recent propensity to turn it over.

It looks like our players are tired. On top of that Austin was in the hospital and other players are playing sick. I can cut them a little slack as long as they don't lose every game from here on out. I expect with more depth and hopefully one more solid contributing recruit we'll be more prepared not to taper off next year.

[lurkerhoya]

I'm not picking on him. I was just pointing out an area where some improvement could go a long way for him and the team. Like any player, it's something where a summer spent developing it and it can be a valuable weapon in his arsenal.

And while yes, they are missed FGs and not turnovers, they are the same as a TO even if the stat sheet says otherwise. Taking those worthless drives is the same as a sloppy pass that goes the other way. They show up as shot attempts, but they are so low percentage it's the same as if he got stripped under the hoop before getting the shot off, which would be a steal and a TO. I know Chris had a decent stat line, but he was also 3-12 at one point in this game, with several of the plays I'm describing.

I don't think its unfair to point out that AI, who is the natural comparison for Chris, made a HOF career out of drawing contact and getting to the line, and that after watching Chris play for two seasons it seems to be a skill he could further develop if he's going to keep throwing himself down there, getting blocked and then looking up from the floor for a foul. I'm confident he can, but it just needs some work put into it.

Numbers-wise, take his game last night. 7-18 from the field, 2-5 from the line. If he can draw contact on 3 of those plays a game, I'll take 7-15 (and maybe even 8 or 9 with the added benefit of getting his shooting touch going) and 7-10. Factor in the points not going the other way on a fast break.

Goofy jumping shoes, put them in the budget.

[FrazierFanatic]

Actually they are more like turnovers; a true missed field goal is one that at least had a chance to go in, whereas some of Chris's forced shots in the paint have absolutely no chance. I also felt Chris helped dig our hole with some bad decisions early, trying to do too much to make up for Austin. That said, he played his heart out, helped us fight back - and was definitely not our biggest problem at the guard spot last night.

[NCHoya]

To me, if the team is losing all the players can improve. The only player I would say that has played at a consistently high level is the one in the hospital, Austin. The rest have ups and downs each game.

I just think this continued ranting on Chris makes no sense. He dominates the ball for us so obviously he will have the opportunity and risk to make the most plays and blunders. Last night, he was just trying to make something happen. He was quiet in the first half and III probably told him to be more aggressive witout Freeman there. Who else is going to create a shot on this roster?

I just have to shake my head sometimes. If John Wall played for GU, this board would probably complain about him too.

[Z]

Mar 2, 2010 11:47:58 GMT -5 NCHoya said:

OK, let me get this straight after a game in which Chris goes for 21 pts, 6 boards, 7 assists to just 2 TOs we are having this discussion? We are focusing on one freaking TO in the span of a 40 minute game as evidence that he is not playing well. We are also talking about the only guy on the floor that plays hard the whole game.

Some of you are pathetic and will use any excuse to bash these players.

Not that I am looking for one, but if you want a scapegoat how about the other guard that had 6 TOs and has played zero defense the last month!

NC, did you watch the game? Midway through the 2nd half, when we were down by 20+, chris was something like 2-10 from the floor for 4 points. Piling up stats in what was essentially garbage time does not a great game make.