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Post by thehandicapper on Feb 19, 2011 7:30:45 GMT -5
Went and saw Hopkins play against O'Connell last night. It was a pretty pathetic performance by DeMatha tonight. They were so much bigger inside yet has problems scoring in the paint. O'Connell's two guards Will Ferguson and Romelo Trimble were great tonight. Trimble is a Freshman and was the best player on the court tonight. Hopkins play was not good tonight. His coach was not happy with him and sat him for long stretches throughout the game. Friends that I went to the game with were not impressed with him, and do be frank were surprised he was going to gtown. This kid needs a lot of work.
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Post by RDF on Feb 19, 2011 9:59:58 GMT -5
Went and saw Hopkins play against O'Connell last night. It was a pretty pathetic performance by DeMatha tonight. They were so much bigger inside yet has problems scoring in the paint. O'Connell's two guards Will Ferguson and Romelo Trimble were great tonight. Trimble is a Freshman and was the best player on the court tonight. Hopkins play was not good tonight. His coach was not happy with him and sat him for long stretches throughout the game. Friends that I went to the game with were not impressed with him, and do be frank were surprised he was going to gtown. This kid needs a lot of work. Ferguson is a Soph and Trimble a FR-so that is a backcourt to follow coming up through the years. Hopkins plays with no urgency. Good thing is--he's built for the bench--and has talent--so he won't pull that crap in college-he'll either play hard or sit and watch others play hard. He's got a lot of natural talent-but always hate when a player's effort level if their weakness (he admits this too) because you can't make someone play hard--they have to want it. For those thinking I was a bit harsh on the first page-there are just too many games like this from a guy whose ability is so much greater then the effort he gives.
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Post by blueandgray on Feb 19, 2011 11:07:50 GMT -5
Sounds like he'll be a good practice player for Adams and Moses to pound on.
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Post by prhoya on Feb 19, 2011 12:03:58 GMT -5
Here's hoping the light switches on (and stays on)... scholarships are at a premum these days...
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Post by RDF on Feb 20, 2011 1:00:56 GMT -5
Here's hoping the light switches on (and stays on)... scholarships are at a premum these days... It will have to for him--or he'll NEVER play at Georgetown. That's the good news about recruiting--he wont' take minutes from Lubick, Moses, Henry, or Tyler Adams with a half ass effort. Then you add Bolden, and the numerous bigs being recruited in '12--and beyond--he'll have to play hard--and the great news is--if he does--he can really be a factor. Just my personal dislike for guys who you don't know whether they are bringing all they can going into a game. Talent wise--Hopkins is more then good enough to be a contributor--but talent doesn't mean anything if you half ass your way through a game/season/career.
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Post by btb (Account Inactive) on Feb 21, 2011 0:27:54 GMT -5
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Post by btb (Account Inactive) on Feb 21, 2011 0:30:39 GMT -5
Here's hoping the light switches on (and stays on)... scholarships are at a premum these days... It will have to for him--or he'll NEVER play at Georgetown. That's the good news about recruiting--he wont' take minutes from Lubick, Moses, Henry, or Tyler Adams with a half ass effort. Then you add Bolden, and the numerous bigs being recruited in '12--and beyond--he'll have to play hard--and the great news is--if he does--he can really be a factor. All you do is talk about kids and coaches! The DeMatha guards have been playing selfish this year and have been giving the ball to the bigs all season, but they are now... www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/video/2011/02/20/VI2011022002891.htmlJust my personal dislike for guys who you don't know whether they are bringing all they can going into a game. Talent wise--Hopkins is more then good enough to be a contributor--but talent doesn't mean anything if you half ass your way through a game/season/career.
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Post by EasyEd on Feb 21, 2011 10:28:44 GMT -5
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Post by RDF on Feb 21, 2011 11:56:43 GMT -5
It will have to for him--or he'll NEVER play at Georgetown. That's the good news about recruiting--he wont' take minutes from Lubick, Moses, Henry, or Tyler Adams with a half ass effort. Then you add Bolden, and the numerous bigs being recruited in '12--and beyond--he'll have to play hard--and the great news is--if he does--he can really be a factor. All you do is talk about kids and coaches! The DeMatha guards have been playing selfish this year and have been giving the ball to the bigs all season, but they are now... www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/video/2011/02/20/VI2011022002891.htmlJust my personal dislike for guys who you don't know whether they are bringing all they can going into a game. Talent wise--Hopkins is more then good enough to be a contributor--but talent doesn't mean anything if you half ass your way through a game/season/career. Is this not a board to talk about the "kids and coaches"? Is this not a thread to talk about Mikael Hopkins? I gave a review of his game last year--and a year later, kid has same issues with approach to game-which he himself admitted during the telecast of the blowout loss to St. Anthony's on ESPN. So the problem here is... ? Guy is talented--but doesn't bring consistent effort. He's not the first to be like this/won't be the last, but if he's going to continue his trend of playing inconsistent, he wont' see much time in college. Like it/dont' like it--that is how it goes for Mikael or any player.
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Post by Dhall on Feb 21, 2011 18:24:42 GMT -5
I've never seen Hopkins play, so this is more of a general comment: you are not talented if you don't play well on a regular basis, you are at most potentially talented.
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Post by cebuhoya on Feb 21, 2011 19:39:20 GMT -5
I've seen Hopkins since his soph year and am not surprised why Beejay Anya is now the focal point of their offense (as a soph). Hopkins has a habit of disappearing during long stretches of games. When I heard that we offered I was hoping that he'd step up his game to justify the offer. Unfortunately, that has not been the case. Hope he doesn't end up as Wesley Wilson light.
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Post by bronxhoya87 on Feb 21, 2011 21:43:03 GMT -5
If the kid has potential JT3 and staff will get him up to speed.
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Post by SirSaxa on Feb 21, 2011 22:19:58 GMT -5
If the kid has potential JT3 and staff will get him up to speed. I hope so too, but Henry Sims does not provide much to support your POV.
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Post by hoyaboya on Feb 21, 2011 22:58:46 GMT -5
If the kid has potential JT3 and staff will get him up to speed. I hope so too, but Henry Sims does not provide much to support your POV. Not sure what the point of the above comment was, but Hopkins is a much different player than Sims IMO. Hopkins is much more skilled/polished at the same stage, though he lacks ~3 inches in height compared to Sims. I don't think for Sims it's ever been about effort - he was just very raw when he arrived. By all accounts, Hopkins has the ability. It's just whether or not he's going to play up to his ability level.
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Post by HometownHoya on Feb 21, 2011 23:59:36 GMT -5
I'd go with Vernon Macklin as your example here
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Post by SirSaxa on Feb 22, 2011 0:48:33 GMT -5
I hope so too, but Henry Sims does not provide much to support your POV. Not sure what the point of the above comment was, but Hopkins is a much different player than Sims IMO. Hopkins is much more skilled/polished at the same stage, though he lacks ~3 inches in height compared to Sims. I don't think for Sims it's ever been about effort - he was just very raw when he arrived. By all accounts, Hopkins has the ability. It's just whether or not he's going to play up to his ability level. The original point was: If the kid has potential JT3 and staff will get him up to speed Sims was a top-50 recruit and Balto Co-POY. I'd say that qualifies as "potential", wouldn't you? But despite 3 years of JT3 and staff coaching, would you say they've "gotten him up to speed"? That's the point. JT3 and staff do a great job -- I don't disagree with that. But even they have not been successful with every recruit who's come in the door. Macklin is -- as was pointed out - another good example. Also, not sure how you define "effort", but if it includes focus and intensity ...then I'd say Henry's performance to date leaves much to be desired -- though there have been moments/games that show his potential and give us all hope.
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Post by nychoya3 on Feb 22, 2011 1:34:46 GMT -5
No one is successful with every player. Given where Henry was at a year ago, I'll give the coaches some credit for getting him this far to where he's useful. Mostly though I credit Henry for growing up and putting in the work.
As for Mikael, he was coveted by a lot of big time programs, he comes from good coaching at Dematha, and he has the tools. We don't need him to score 15 a game next year, but I think he will have a nice career.
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Post by HoyasAreHungry on Feb 22, 2011 10:11:51 GMT -5
^ ding ding ding....it's all about the players....if they put in the work and dedicate themselves mentally they can take themselves as far as they want to go (granted with the right physical tools). The staff can only put the players in position to succeed...if the players don't seize it or are not dedicated and want to take the easy way out they won't develop...plain and simple
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Post by RDF on Feb 22, 2011 12:00:15 GMT -5
Biggest difference for Henry's development--him accepting the role of playing as a 5 in the offense instead of thinking he was next Robert Horry---and he's been a nice contributor. Just glad he's got another year--because I expect him to have a very strong SR season and hopefully follow suit of the man that also wore #14--Ya Ya Dia--who was voted most improved player in the BE his SR year. (believe that was his award--but it might have been scholar athlete--know he was recognized by conference his SR season which was full of strong games and nice improvement)
Hopkins can be a significant player--if he wants to. He brings athleticism and skills--just needs to bring intensity each time out.
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Post by chep3 on Feb 22, 2011 13:02:37 GMT -5
You gotta hope that part of what makes him coast is knowing he can. He's not going to have that opportunity next year, as the minutes in the frontcourt are going to be tight. He won't start over Nate; he can lose minutes to Hollis at the 4; and you get the feeling that if Hopkins doesn't play with enough energy in practice, he's going to get worked by Jerrelle's hustle. Hopefully the combo of those factors lights a fire and this kid plays up to his potential once he's on campus.
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