The Stig
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Post by The Stig on Feb 24, 2009 11:07:27 GMT -5
I think the loudest boos actually came for a couple non-calls while we were battling for an offensive rebound.
I've never seen the Verizon Center crowd so p*ssed off at the refs. I think a lot of it was that we were already annoyed with the way the team was playing, and the general anger was just directed at the refs.
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Post by fsohoya on Feb 24, 2009 11:21:27 GMT -5
I think the loudest boos actually came for a couple non-calls while we were battling for an offensive rebound. I've never seen the Verizon Center crowd so p*ssed off at the refs. I think a lot of it was that we were already annoyed with the way the team was playing, and the general anger was just directed at the refs. I think people were a bit more PO'd at the refs at last year's 'Nova game, but otherwise I think Stig nailed it.
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Post by dcc33 on Feb 24, 2009 11:24:34 GMT -5
Student section chanting "FU refs" was in poor form. That said, the officiating was infuriating, and most of the booing in the Verizon Center was directly related to that. My section was pretty irate after Chris's missed dunk, where it seemed pretty obvious that he was fouled on the way up, and that his arm was grabbed, causing him to miss. It was comical that they wouldn't call half of our intentional fouls in the last 2 minutes.
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Post by HoyasAreHungry on Feb 24, 2009 11:35:39 GMT -5
the refs were atrocious....the boos were for them not the team....im glad we let the refs have it (the booing not the cursing....i actually didn't hear that chant I guess I was still dazed by what i was seeing)
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Post by CAHoya07 on Feb 24, 2009 11:45:14 GMT -5
BTW, "FU Refs" was only chanted by a minority of the non-band student section in the second half. I only heard it because my seats are right next to the student section, I probably wouldn't have heard it otherwise. Doesn't make it right, but let's not act as if the entire student section was joining in.
And the booing was mostly at the refs. Boy, everybody was pretty agitated and frustrated last night.
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Post by bubbrubbhoya on Feb 24, 2009 11:51:58 GMT -5
I think the loudest boos actually came for a couple non-calls while we were battling for an offensive rebound. I've never seen the Verizon Center crowd so p*ssed off at the refs. I think a lot of it was that we were already annoyed with the way the team was playing, and the general anger was just directed at the refs. Bingo. The boos were directed 100% at the refs, and this was the moment that the whole place erupted. Wright and a couple others were getting harrassed during a prolonged stint under the rim, and the refs just sat on their whistles (makes them tast better?). The whole arena went nuts--I'd say half of the side sections was standing up and booing the refs. The refs absolutely deserved it then as well as during the "phantom possession" when it seemed that there was a whistle, but then play continued for a bit, followed by ref confusion, which prompted the zebras to go and take a look at the replay (of what, we never did find out). The upshot was that Louisville inexplicably got the ball, and no call was ever made. Pathetic. The FU will remain controversial, but the boos showed an informed fan base.
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Post by fsohoya on Feb 24, 2009 11:57:01 GMT -5
We can't really pin this loss on the refs, but that just makes their atrociousness more frustrating. Nothing went our way.
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Post by prhoya on Feb 24, 2009 12:48:51 GMT -5
Nice article that pretty much sums up our season and what we're feeling... Only the team knows exactly what happened. But, I still believe.
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Post by tlphoya on Feb 24, 2009 12:56:51 GMT -5
I wanted to go home after the game last night and rewatch to see exactly what the situation was when the refs were calling fouls on us, but I just couldn't stomach it right then. It seemed to me that they would call 4-5 fouls on us and then a few make up calls on louisville later in the half. While the overall foul counts might have been similar I think they timing of when they happened were just unbelievable. My dad was a bball ref and would always get on me about giving the refs a hard time. I'd like to think he wouldn't have been mad at me last night. I was yelling at the refs but no obscenities! I'll try to find some time and prove my hypothesis. Stupid work gets in the way of everything important :-) .
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Post by JohnJacquesLayup on Feb 24, 2009 13:23:51 GMT -5
Agree with Bando. Think about it: As we're down double digits, not playing well, we are chanting "We Are . . . GEORGETOWN!" I can only imagine the 'ville fans chuckling and thinking to themselves "Yes, you are."
And yes, cheerleader, of course we are always Georgetown. That doesn't mean you need to proclaim it at awkward times.
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Post by PhillyHoya on Feb 24, 2009 13:28:15 GMT -5
BTW, "FU Refs" was only chanted by a minority of the non-band student section in the second half. I only heard it because my seats are right next to the student section, I probably wouldn't have heard it otherwise. Doesn't make it right, but let's not act as if the entire student section was joining in. And the booing was mostly at the refs. Boy, everybody was pretty agitated and frustrated last night. That explains why I never heard it. Sad and embarassing, but not surprising.
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Post by rosslynhoya on Feb 24, 2009 14:02:05 GMT -5
I think the loudest boos actually came for a couple non-calls while we were battling for an offensive rebound. I've never seen the Verizon Center crowd so p*ssed off at the refs. I think a lot of it was that we were already annoyed with the way the team was playing, and the general anger was just directed at the refs. Bingo. The boos were directed 100% at the refs, and this was the moment that the whole place erupted. Wright and a couple others were getting harrassed during a prolonged stint under the rim, and the refs just sat on their whistles (makes them tast better?). The whole arena went nuts--I'd say half of the side sections was standing up and booing the refs. The refs absolutely deserved it then as well as during the "phantom possession" when it seemed that there was a whistle, but then play continued for a bit, followed by ref confusion, which prompted the zebras to go and take a look at the replay (of what, we never did find out). The upshot was that Louisville inexplicably got the ball, and no call was ever made. Pathetic. The FU will remain controversial, but the boos showed an informed fan base. The "phantom possession" you speak of came shortly after that series of non-calls under the basket (I swear I saw Greg punched right in the face). We came down with an offensive rebound and were working the ball around the perimeter again and suddenly the shot clock ticked to zero. It had never reset EIGHT SECONDS EARLIER when an off-balance three clanked off the rim. There's no question that the shot clock should have reset and I think the officials were at least aware of it, hence the delay, therefore the FU chant.
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Post by fsohoya on Feb 24, 2009 14:32:06 GMT -5
Agree with Bando. Think about it: As we're down double digits, not playing well, we are chanting "We Are . . . GEORGETOWN!" I can only imagine the 'ville fans chuckling and thinking to themselves "Yes, you are." And yes, cheerleader, of course we are always Georgetown. That doesn't mean you need to proclaim it at awkward times. Actually, the Louisville fan next to me -- for some reason I always have a fan of the other team next to me -- was commenting to a friend about how it doesn't matter how bad the team is, at L'ville the fans are loud and supportive. We need to be exactly the same way, and there is no awkward timing for the "We are Georgetown" chant. Heck, we need to be most supportive and proud when the chips are down, which frankly anyone involved in any competitive activity knows! When you're losing is exactly when you need to dig deepest and get the most support. Lots of people on this board complain when they think the team has "stopped fighting," but we make constant excuses for ourselves! Arguing over this kind of thing really burns me up and reminds me of why I am so often appalled by our "fans." We need a total attitude adjustment!
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Post by JohnJacquesLayup on Feb 24, 2009 14:47:26 GMT -5
You're right. A boaShut upl, arrogant chant is just what the fans should be doing when getting killed. You look (and by all appearances are) retarded when you do that kind of stuff.
Hey, let's just go all the way with this and start chanting "WE'RE NUMBER 1" for the rest of the season. You know, because at least our attitude would be good.
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Post by fsohoya on Feb 24, 2009 15:01:57 GMT -5
You're right. A boaShut upl, arrogant chant is just what the fans should be doing when getting killed. You look (and by all appearances are) retarded when you do that kind of stuff. Hey, let's just go all the way with this and start chanting "WE'RE NUMBER 1" for the rest of the season. You know, because at least our attitude would be good. If you can't tell the difference between "We are...Georgetown" and "we're number one," I'm not sure you should really be the one throwing the "r" word around.
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Post by JohnJacquesLayup on Feb 24, 2009 15:07:42 GMT -5
The intent of both chants is the same.
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Post by fsohoya on Feb 24, 2009 15:13:16 GMT -5
The intent of both chants is the same. Actually, no. "We are...Georgetown" clearly connotes school pride. "We're number one" clearly connotes that we think we are the best at the sport being played. Why do you think the movie title was "We are Marshall"? It's not because the football team was number one.
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Post by JohnJacquesLayup on Feb 24, 2009 15:23:28 GMT -5
They obviously don't mean the same thing (and I never said they did), but the intent of both is to boast and show pride in your team. You're reading something into my posts that isn't there because you're passionate about the "We are...Georgetown" chant. This isn't important enough for me to continue discussing.
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Post by SirSaxa on Feb 24, 2009 15:30:29 GMT -5
They obviously don't mean the same thing (and I never said they did), but the intent of both is to boast and show pride in your team. You're reading something into my posts that isn't there because you're passionate about the "We are...Georgetown" chant. This isn't important enough for me to continue discussing. It is important to show support for the team, especially when they are down. Some may feel the "we are" chant is boaShut upl. Perhaps there is another chant/cheer to suggest? Personally, the "we are" chant to me is simply reminding the team and the fans that we are Hoyas, with a great hoops history, and we never give up. We are GU and we have pride in that. However, i would like someone to teach the student body how to do the chant. "We Are", beat, beat, "Georgetown"! Maybe JT3 can teach everyone at MM. Or maybe someone needs to hand out chant/cheer sheets. It is much more effective when done the traditional way.
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Post by prhoya on Feb 24, 2009 15:35:15 GMT -5
I agree with Sir.
Eric, do the cheerleaders lead the crowd? How do you, the cheerleaders, do it? With the beat, beat?
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