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Post by TheCashew05 on Feb 3, 2005 17:10:48 GMT -5
Let's recap: You think the band is ineffective and that cheerleaders have no role in rallying our fanbase. Interesting perspective. You don't think that if the cheerleaders took a proactive role in organizing our student section that it could eliminate the problems of multiple cheers and lack of coordination? You correctly summed up what I'm saying, JohnJacques. I think GUHoya2007 is right on with the cheerleaders- they don't do much in terms of starting cheers. If they did, fine; but I don't hold out much hope for that. They smile, do their thing, yell go hoyas for the camera, and the student section really starts the chants. As for the band, they do their thing as well, and play pep music and cheer. I just think that if the band moved up, and the students without instruments filled up the whole front of the student sections, it would be louder on the court. I have more faith in students coordinating chants, and if we have more upfront starting things out, I think it will carry more to the back, and we'll be louder and in unison more often.
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Post by DrumsGoBang on Feb 3, 2005 17:11:14 GMT -5
I have says this many times before, mostly on the last message board when it was around but this is what needs to happen.
Step #1 First switch the band and the student section where they are now. At first this doesn't seem to do anything, but it does. This puts the band right behind the vistors bench. I know that when I was in band at a few Big East Tournements, MSG people told us that the horns had to point away from the bench because they players couldn't hear and where distracted. Well for our home court I say we point the horns right at the vistors bench and play some loud funky music to make them deaf.
Step #2 The Dance team. Stop giving them seats in the student section. I love how they show up every game, but I notice that during the game most of them are talking of their cell phones and not watching the game. What we should do is so what a lot of other schools do. Make the dance team like another set up cheerleaders on the oppisite side of the arena and have them sit on the baseline and start cheers. This way if they both do their job we will have cheer starting people on both sides. Also give them outfits like the Miami dance team. I'm glad they are out of the Big East but I miss the Miami dance team. mmmmmmm....
Step #3 Move the media. It's been mentioned a bunch of times here. We don't need that whole section for them. Move them somewhere else. We only need a few seats Since Rich and TV crews already have seats, all we need to provide room for the Post, Times, AP, Visiting teams Paper, plus about 2 others.
Step #4 Move Students to the other side. We need student section on both sides. Everyone agrees with that. Keep the young alumni where they are. We need a more melo section right near our bench.
Step #5 This might not be possible, but alternate rows in sections for free tickets to school, community groups, and for vistors fans. From what I have noticed is that people in the free seats tend to cheer for the home team. This dilutes the vistors crowd with people cheering for Georgetown.
Step #6 Cheerleaders with those horn things. Yes, maybe even bringback male cheerleaders. Those things make noise by banging them, and help to actually start cheers.
Step #7 Let the band play. Step#1 doesn't work as well if the band doesn't get to play a lot. People still look at ads if there is music in the backround. Also do fan of the game during halftime. I don't care who brought the cutest kid. If it doesn't go to Jeff Greens Mom it doesn't matter.
Step #8 Better Halftime show. Enough said.
Step #9 Fire the people who need to be fired. We all know who is left in the Atheltic department that needs to be fired. These changes aren't going to happen until we get people who know what they are doing. I still don't even know what albano mullet man does.
Step#10 Admitt you have a problem
Step #11 Then start drinking
Step #12 Drink beer with straws
Step #Alpha-15 - TOWELS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! everyone needs to bring towels. Three's Towel Team GO!
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Post by GUHoya07 on Feb 3, 2005 17:17:29 GMT -5
Step #2 is right on- Get the damn dance team out of the student section. They come in and put their ridiculous little reserved seat papers down on seats. Then they leave for half the game, cause fights when everyone is angry that they are reserving seats, and when they are there they dont pay attention to the game at all. If they really need seats then give them seats in some empty section up somewhere. They shouldnt be in the student section, and most definitely not in the first 5 rows when they dont even care about the team.
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Post by TheCashew05 on Feb 3, 2005 17:18:05 GMT -5
I still don't even know what albano mullet man does. great post, but albino mullet man is a crucial part of gu hoops. I don't care what he does, he's one of the funniest looking people I've ever seen at MCI along with Charlie "retarded dophin" Villanueva and Shrek Cornette. Albino mullet man deserves fan of the game one day. or at least bubble vision.
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Post by LCPolo18 on Feb 3, 2005 17:29:19 GMT -5
As for the band, they do their thing as well, and play pep music and cheer. I just think that if the band moved up, and the students without instruments filled up the whole front of the student sections, it would be louder on the court. I have more faith in students coordinating chants, and if we have more upfront starting things out, I think it will carry more to the back, and we'll be louder and in unison more often. Honestly dude, next time you're at a game take a look around. The band cheers along with every chant that the student section starts. If you look around the whole student section during a game, there's so many people not paying attention that I doubt you would have the same kind of faith in the students over the band. People can't contribute to or start a chant if they're not paying attention, it just doesn't happen. In terms of unison, it's not usually a problem of the sound carrying up, it's a problem of the sound carrying down. Chants that start in the front usually catch on in the back. Chants that start in the back aren't heard by the front rows, who then start their own ones. So pretty much people like you in the back just need to be louder if you want your chants to be effective and heard by everyone.
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Post by HoyaSox04 on Feb 3, 2005 17:30:54 GMT -5
Step #2 is right on- Get the damn dance team out of the student section. They come in and put their ridiculous little reserved seat papers down on seats. Then they leave for half the game, cause fights when everyone is angry that they are reserving seats, and when they are there they dont pay attention to the game at all. If they really need seats then give them seats in some empty section up somewhere. They shouldnt be in the student section, and most definitely not in the first 5 rows when they dont even care about the team. You're absolutely retarded if you want the Hoya Dance Team out of the student section. Come on, are there better women to look at during the course of the game? I think not. Lord knows I've done my fair share of staring at them. I'm debating a marriage proposal to one of them. Jesus, these women are 8 million times better looking than the cheerleaders, and you want to kick them out?
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Post by DrumsGoBang on Feb 3, 2005 17:31:52 GMT -5
How can you say that? Albano Mullet Man is pure evil. He is like a some sort of super villian.
Also I have more steps
Step #45 - Let Jack pee on the runway from the locker rooms to the court for the vistors. Maybe the star player will trip on the pee and hurt his foot.
Step #24 - Have cheer sheets with the other teams roster on them. I know the names of the Georgetown players. I want to know the names of the doofy white kids on the other team so I can yell at them. Also have Hoya Blue pratice the cheers before the game.
Step #1812 - Respect the damn national Anthem. Now I'm not a fan of the current administration but I respect the Anthem. Students have to stop phone conversations and graping each others asses during the Anthem. That is unless that ass is mine, you are a hot and legal girl, and my girlfriend is not around.
Step #44 - Tear down the damn Canadian flag. There is no hockey anymore!
Step #50 - Have Hoya blue sponser making funny signs. I remember the best one ever: We have two Boumtje's, one for you and one for your mama!
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Post by DrumsGoBang on Feb 3, 2005 17:37:09 GMT -5
Yes, move the dance team. Go back and read my steps! If you want women then go out with the St John's team after games to the strip clubs.
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TOWELS
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Post by Bahstin on Feb 3, 2005 17:43:08 GMT -5
Not everyone wants the students on both sides. In my time at Georgetown, both scenarios existed. I thought it was a huge improvement when they put all the students on one side. It is way more intimidating to have the student section go all the way back. Plus, it keeps all the cheers together and thus louder.
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Post by Hoyabliu on Feb 3, 2005 17:45:16 GMT -5
I posted this on the band thread before realizing that no one mentioned the dance team there. Maybe we can move the dance team to the rows behind the band?? But I think the only way that would be possible is if we made it an official "dance team section" and they stayed in their uniforms and maybe had some coordinated cheers during the game too. Right now, the dance team really doesn't contribute much to the games other than basically performing a 1 minute routine to music I hate and looking good, which I do appreciate hahah
go band! go hoyas!
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Post by FrostbackHoya on Feb 3, 2005 17:45:57 GMT -5
Step #44 - Tear down the damn Canadian flag. There is no hockey anymore! Ya know I'd have to post something... What? It offends you? Then the one at the Embassy across from the Capitol must be really painful. Or maybe it's just a flag. It would be nice to have Hoyas banners hanging at MCI -- although they would be crowded out by all those Caps and Bullets banners... ;-)
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Post by CAHoya07 on Feb 3, 2005 17:46:38 GMT -5
How can you say that? Albano Mullet Man is pure evil. He is like a some sort of super villian. Also I have more steps Step #45 - Let Jack pee on the runway from the locker rooms to the court for the vistors. Maybe the star player will trip on the pee and hurt his foot. Step #24 - Have cheer sheets with the other teams roster on them. I know the names of the Georgetown players. I want to know the names of the doofy white kids on the other team so I can yell at them. Also have Hoya Blue pratice the cheers before the game. Step #1812 - Respect the damn national Anthem. Now I'm not a fan of the current administration but I respect the Anthem. Students have to stop phone conversations and graping each others asses during the Anthem. That is unless that ass is mine, you are a hot and legal girl, and my girlfriend is not around. Step #44 - Tear down the damn Canadian flag. There is no hockey anymore! Step #50 - Have Hoya blue sponser making funny signs. I remember the best one ever: We have two Boumtje's, one for you and one for your mama! DrumgsGoBang, your posts always crack me up. Keep up the good work. Towels. Beer with straws. Hell yeah.
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Post by LCPolo18 on Feb 3, 2005 17:50:14 GMT -5
It would be nice to have Hoyas banners hanging at MCI -- although they would be crowded out by all those Caps and Bullets banners... ;-) They have our national championship banner up at MCI. From the student section it's to the right of the jumbotron.
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Post by GUHoya07 on Feb 3, 2005 17:51:45 GMT -5
Yeah, but we mean more banners. One banner isnt exactly impressive, we need final four and Big East championship banners and so on.
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Post by HoyaChris on Feb 3, 2005 17:53:55 GMT -5
Step #44 - Tear down the damn Canadian flag. There is no hockey anymore! Toronto Raptors
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Post by TBird41 on Feb 3, 2005 17:54:28 GMT -5
Step #44 - Tear down the damn Canadian flag. There is no hockey anymore! True, there is no more hockey , but there's still the Toronto Raptors...
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Post by Coast2CoastHoya on Feb 3, 2005 18:01:02 GMT -5
This might be farther up the thread, but did anyone notice how it looked like those two sections on the "wings" of the student section (Sections 114 and 119, usually filled with opposing fans) seemed to be student sections last night? that's nice. i like that. if we can't get our students moved to both sides or - gasp! - the halfcourt area, wrapping us around rather than just moving us into the rafters is great. Shove the opposing fans in the attic.
other comments: 1. As to the band: moving the band would be tough because of logistical considerations equipement, conductor stand, etc.), unless it was moved to the bottom of section 115 or 118, where Broadus could still conduct, equipment could still be placed, and the band could still be alongside the tunnel (for ease of ingress and egress). sight lines wouldn't be bad (wouldn't want to deprive the band of one of its best perks!), and it would be heard by MUCH more of the student section, and by the opposing bench (b/c change in directional projection).
2. Dance/Step teams: I agree with DrumsGoBang 100%. That has been a pet pieve of mine for years. Most of the time they don't even cheer, and leave halfway through the second half. Give those seats to fans that are going to go nuts all game long. Make the Dance Teams feel loved and happy by putting them someplace good but not where rowdy fans should be.
3. Moving the students. Student section should be in the best seats in the house. The team only exists because of them. Simple. In the alternative, having us in the lowest seats possible on both sides is good. Also provides continuity with the young alums, which is clearly needed since the YAs are usually WAY too mello.
4. Cheering/Cheers: First off, it has to be said that this year's cheering by the students has been great. Now, as to getting the students to cheer in unison: Education! i think it's Hoya Blue's job to get the word out to the student about how to cheer, when to cheer, WHAT to cheer (if i have to endure another "let's go hoyas" during a defensive stand, i'll start throwing dukes) and who to follow. Megaphones=GREAT. More of those, the better. That one dude down front who has one is very effective in getting the other students to follow along. I really don't care who starts the cheers, as long as they're in keeping with tradition, timely, correct, and sufficiently loud.
that's all outta me. man it was nice to be so dominant in a game last night.
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Post by TBird41 on Feb 3, 2005 18:06:00 GMT -5
4. Cheering/Cheers: First off, it has to be said that this year's cheering by the students has been great. Now, as to getting the students to cheer in unison: Education! i think it's Hoya Blue's job to get the word out to the student about how to cheer, when to cheer, WHAT to cheer (if i have to endure another "let's go hoyas" during a defensive stand, i'll start throwing dukes) and who to follow. Megaphones=GREAT. More of those, the better. That one dude down front who has one is very effective in getting the other students to follow along. I really don't care who starts the cheers, as long as they're in keeping with tradition, timely, correct, and sufficiently loud. hmmmm.....maybe if they put "cheers" on the "cheer" sheet it might help. Or maybe they should just keep making stupid jokes about bench warmers and pretending they're witty. That might help with education.
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Post by hoyatables on Feb 3, 2005 18:19:36 GMT -5
Oh, and another thing about this whole "move the band out so the students can sit in their spot." The members of the band ARE students, too--and they are students that by and large are RABID basketball fans (unless things have changed and it is no longer a drinking organization with a basketball problem?). So really, the student section DOES incorporate the band area; it's just that the students sitting there are holding instruments and playing during timeouts.
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Post by FLHoya on Feb 3, 2005 19:35:42 GMT -5
2. Dance/Step teams: I agree with DrumsGoBang 100%. That has been a pet pieve of mine for years. Most of the time they don't even cheer, and leave halfway through the second half. Give those seats to fans that are going to go nuts all game long. Make the Dance Teams feel loved and happy by putting them someplace good but not where rowdy fans should be. Here's what happened with the Dance Team last night: There was some debate over where they had staked their claim with their "reserved" pieces of paper. The issue centered around the 4th and 5th rows of the student section. About 10 minutes prior to the game, the dance team members--who had not yet made an appearance in the student section--returned to that area to find "their" seats had been taken. It was unclear where they actually were--a few of their signs were found crumpled on the ground in the general vicinity, but no one knew who had taken what and put it where. About 10 members of the team came back and proceeded to get in an argument with two kids sitting in the 4th row over the seats. The 2 kids said there were no signs on the seats they sat in when they arrived--that they in fact where on the fifth row seats. The Dance Team protested, called over an MCI usher, and after some discussion, apparently the Dance Team won out. I do not know where those 2 kids went. The sad part was that those two kids had not only dressed up for the game, but they had been among the first people to make it to the Arena two hours before the game. They were forced to give up their seats to the Dance Team "saving" policy--when it may or may not have been their fault for "taking" those seats. In the end it was probably a misunderstanding between the two parties, but it was still unfortunate. Once the game started, the Dance Team stayed for I'd say until the first TV timeout, when they went down to prep for their routine. If memory serves they did their routine in the second or third TV timeout. Thereafter, appx. half of the team members returned for the final minutes of the first half, most paying only slight attention to the game. By halftime, they were all pretty much gone. During the second half, their seats were filled by some other people who came down to the front, so at least they didn't go to waste. With the exception of the part where the usher had to get involved last night, this is a pretty typical case of what happens with the Dance Team. I agree with the person upthread who wondered why the Dance Team couldn't be placed somewhere in the Arena--on the sidelines perhaps--to do some routines and help with cheering. On the basis of them being performers, they're allowed to walk around the tunnel areas and sidelines anyways w/o a pass that I know of. So why do they NEED those seats in the student section in the first place?
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