SFHoya99
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Post by SFHoya99 on Nov 16, 2010 13:06:59 GMT -5
I'm in the no knowledge of Kendrick camp as well but, as an addendum, doesn't really sound like the kind of kid that would fit well with us in terms of our team-oriented style of play. Actually, despite rumors of him being upset not starting, etc., Kendrick is very much a team player on the court. Much more of an all-around guy than a straight scorer.
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Post by FrazierFanatic on Nov 16, 2010 13:14:35 GMT -5
Trust. The. Coaching. Staff.
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Post by bronxhoya87 on Nov 16, 2010 13:23:18 GMT -5
Jelan come on down kid. When would he be eligible?
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Post by EasyEd on Nov 16, 2010 13:29:23 GMT -5
Take a pass.
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Post by HoyaSinceBirth on Nov 16, 2010 13:42:27 GMT -5
I trust the staff. If they want him here then I trust it's the right decision.
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Post by FrazierFanatic on Nov 16, 2010 15:45:12 GMT -5
I trust the staff. If they want him here then I trust it's the right decision. Exactly. If they still have any interest, they will look into anything that may have happened at Memphis and decide whether that affects their interest.
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Post by prhoya on Nov 16, 2010 16:13:45 GMT -5
Good points made by all from both sides of the fence... I wonder what Jelan wants for himself. Does he see himself as a one-and-done (especially after the transfer wait), two-and-done, etc...? If so, he will be looking for the team with the most minutes available. That might not be GU. What we do know is that JT3 will not promise him a starting spot, that they will talk it over (again), and that, at the end of the day, Jelan and JT3 will know where both are standing. Again, TTS (Trust the staff). BTW, I'm sure JT3 will consider all of our comments/suggestions/advices...
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Post by MCIGuy on Nov 16, 2010 16:27:00 GMT -5
Bx, Whats good son? I feel the same way about the Kendrick kid. WE NEED TALENT. Not that badly. He sounds like a cancer.
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Post by SirSaxa on Nov 16, 2010 16:55:00 GMT -5
BTW, I'm sure JT3 will consider all of our comments/suggestions/advices... Doesn't he always?
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Post by hoyarooter on Nov 16, 2010 16:55:05 GMT -5
I'm not so sure we can just blithely say that if he doesn't work out, we'll cut bait on him. If we do that, how badly will it hurt our graduation rate (I forget what the acronym is for that - I want to say APR, but in my world, that means annual percentage rate).
Ultimately, I am willing to trust the staff on this one, as I don't foresee that they would do anything that they envision could backfire in a big way.
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Post by dreamhoya on Nov 16, 2010 17:18:19 GMT -5
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Post by SFHoya99 on Nov 16, 2010 17:22:55 GMT -5
I'm not so sure we can just blithely say that if he doesn't work out, we'll cut bait on him. If we do that, how badly will it hurt our graduation rate (I forget what the acronym is for that - I want to say APR, but in my world, that means annual percentage rate). Ultimately, I am willing to trust the staff on this one, as I don't foresee that they would do anything that they envision could backfire in a big way. The graduation rate issue - and it would hurt if he left/was dismissed - is not the biggest issue. Here's two bigger issues: 1. There is one open scholarship this year and next year. That'd be Kendrick's, and presumably he'd play half a freshman year next year. It cuts down on remaining 2012 scholarships from 2 to 1 while filling up a wing spot. That's not the worst thing in the world, but given the need for PG in that class, it might begin to rule out Ochefu, etc. Again, if it works out, that's great. If it doesn't, it may cost us a chance to grab someone in 2012. 2. Any disruption he may cause while here. So there's issues. The questions are myriad, and none of them are ones we're going to be privy to. The staff may not get it right, but how can you not trust them in this situation? None of us has close to enough information.
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Post by SirSaxa on Nov 16, 2010 18:32:53 GMT -5
Wait a minute! You mean that story was from a week ago? And after all that more things happened and Jalen got kicked off the team?
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Post by prhoya on Nov 16, 2010 18:36:45 GMT -5
I'm sure it'll be included in JT3 and Jelan's conversation.
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Post by hoyarooter on Nov 16, 2010 22:36:14 GMT -5
I'm not so sure we can just blithely say that if he doesn't work out, we'll cut bait on him. If we do that, how badly will it hurt our graduation rate (I forget what the acronym is for that - I want to say APR, but in my world, that means annual percentage rate). Ultimately, I am willing to trust the staff on this one, as I don't foresee that they would do anything that they envision could backfire in a big way. The graduation rate issue - and it would hurt if he left/was dismissed - is not the biggest issue. Here's two bigger issues: 1. There is one open scholarship this year and next year. That'd be Kendrick's, and presumably he'd play half a freshman year next year. It cuts down on remaining 2012 scholarships from 2 to 1 while filling up a wing spot. That's not the worst thing in the world, but given the need for PG in that class, it might begin to rule out Ochefu, etc. Again, if it works out, that's great. If it doesn't, it may cost us a chance to grab someone in 2012. 2. Any disruption he may cause while here. So there's issues. The questions are myriad, and none of them are ones we're going to be privy to. The staff may not get it right, but how can you not trust them in this situation? None of us has close to enough information. I didn't say it was the biggest issue. I only raised it because I didn't see where anyone else had done so, and there is no denying that it is an issue. I agree that the two issues you raised (and that had already been mentioned) are bigger issues - but the graduation issue shouldn't be ignored.
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Post by HometownHoya on Nov 17, 2010 1:42:27 GMT -5
Aren't the chances that he goes early to the NBA? Effecting us much like Summers or maybe Jeff did
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Post by SirSaxa on Nov 17, 2010 7:31:08 GMT -5
I'm not so sure we can just blithely say that if he doesn't work out, we'll cut bait on him. If we do that, how badly will it hurt our graduation rate (I forget what the acronym is for that - I want to say APR, but in my world, that means annual percentage rate). SF added two good points, but getting back to this one for a moment, to me the APR is very important, but even more important is how we handle people. Pops always stressed education, giving kids a chance, building men, etc. JT3 does too. So if we take this kid, I can't picture JT3 taking the attitude that "we'll just see if it works out and if not we'll cut him free". Never gonna happen. I don't know if Coach and staff want the kid or he wants us. But I DO know that if he ends up here, JT3 will bring him in with the intention of making him a full-fledged member of the team and of the GU community, and to be here until he either graduates, or demonstrates enough to go early to the NBA.
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Post by capcenterhoya on Nov 17, 2010 11:23:24 GMT -5
1. There is one open scholarship this year and next year. That'd be Kendrick's, and presumably he'd play half a freshman year next year. It cuts down on remaining 2012 scholarships from 2 to 1 while filling up a wing spot. That's not the worst thing in the world, but given the need for PG in that class, it might begin to rule out Ochefu, etc. Considering scholarships are year to year renewals, this is not really a concern at all unless JTIII completely misjudges a player's talent and potential. There will always be room on our roster for 5 star caliber players. One may disagree with the ethics of this strategy, but it's clear JTIII's primary goal is to build the best team he can.
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Post by SFHoya99 on Nov 17, 2010 11:44:02 GMT -5
Scholarships are one year renewals, but if Jelan comes, and then has to leave, it restricts our focus. Much of the 2012 class will be committed by summer next year, and signed by this time next year.
If he has an issue with PT or something in December of next year, that scholarship is either not used in 2012 or going to a spring signee and not necessarily our top choice. There's an opportunity cost.
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Post by RDF on Nov 17, 2010 11:58:22 GMT -5
I don't think anyone is talking of "cutting him loose" as much as if he were to come into the program--it would be on terms of "This is how we expect you to do things and if you don't--we won't tolerate it". If Kendrick has anger issues--that is only going to be magnified when you are in a situation where you regret your decision/don't feel comfortable. He's pretty friendly with a few guys--especially Markel--so that couldn't hurt and he really seemed to enjoy his time on Georgetown campus at MM for his visit in '09 and Hoyas were in it throughout his recruitment. I'd highly doubt they hadn't heard/observed some of the issues we've learned about recently--so it shouldn't be as much of an issue as it would be if they never recruited him initially.
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