TBird41
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Post by TBird41 on Nov 16, 2010 11:16:48 GMT -5
All I know about this subject is that Kendrick got kicked off of Memphis for his behavior despite being a McDonald's All American. That's not just a red flag, that is a GIANT RED FLAG. Memphis isn't a program that cares about anything but winning. Kendrick might be a gigantic talent, but a program that didn't care about their star being the driver in a drive by murder KICKED KENDRICK OFF THEIR TEAM.
True, I don't know the details, but if being an accomplice to murder doesn't bother Memphis, what did Kendrick do?
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Post by harlemhoya on Nov 16, 2010 11:19:45 GMT -5
He cold cocked Joe Jackson in the face last summer, causing him to miss the summer trip to the Bahamas. He threatened a teammate a month ago, earning a two week suspension from the team. After being reinstated earlier in the week and playing in the exhibition win over cbu, he looked pretty good. Then in shoot around last night he mouthed off to the coaches about not starting. He was not on the bench during the game and was promptly dismissed from the team this morning. The kid has some anger management issues he needs to take care of before ever playing college ball. Josh has complete control of this team, Wesley wither spoon was late for shoot around and was not allowed to start and Chris crawford missed class earlier in the week and was not allowed to play until the second half. Kendrick played for three high schools and four aau teams in four years, he obviously has some deep rooted problems. I hope he can get his head straight for his sake. Since he was enrolled in classes and practiced with the team and played in an exhibition game he will be eligible to play for someone else in January 2012.
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Post by bronxhoya87 on Nov 16, 2010 11:33:40 GMT -5
Harlem is on the case like an erstwhile Matlock. That is a pretty long list of incidents. Would you still take him? Bronxie says recruit talent or lose to it. We need someone with an edge here. If it does not work out we jettison him. Doubt he goes to Gtech because Hewitt is on his way out. UGA Bronxie could see though.
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Post by bronxhoya87 on Nov 16, 2010 11:36:53 GMT -5
It sure would be nice to see our team with elite next level talent for once. Jeff Green leaving early hurt us as did Monroe leaving. We would have had 2 Final Four teams with talent all over the floor. Looks like we could get to that level in 2012 provided we land Oechfu and a talented wing player.
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TBird41
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Post by TBird41 on Nov 16, 2010 11:38:08 GMT -5
Harlem is on the case like an erstwhile Matlock. That is a pretty long list of incidents. Would you still take him? Bronxie says recruit talent or lose to it. We need someone with an edge here. If it does not work out we jettison him. Doubt he goes to Gtech because Hewitt is on his way out. UGA Bronxie could see though. Thanks to Harlem for the info. I'd still pass. If you want someone with an edge and talent, recruit someone with talent that plays with an edge ON THE COURT, not someone who has an edge off the court which leads to him punch teammates, mouth off to his coach and get himself kicked off a team that values talent over almost everything else. Chemistry issues have sub-marined Hoya teams before--why bring in a ticking time bomb?
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Post by sleepy on Nov 16, 2010 11:41:03 GMT -5
we've had players break chairs over teamates backs. seemed to workout back then. dont know anything about the kid other than what has surfaced i do know bronxie is right in that we need some kids with an edge just dont know if this one is worth it.
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Post by SFHoya99 on Nov 16, 2010 11:44:13 GMT -5
So, I have no knowledge of Kendrick at all...
...but didn't we just go through several years where everyone blamed underperformance on chemistry issues? I'm not saying it's always a problem, but sometimes talent is not worth it.
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Post by bronxhoya87 on Nov 16, 2010 11:47:45 GMT -5
If he cause chemistry issues he is out of here simple as that. He has to know he has strikes against him so he should be on his best behavior. Give him a go...see what happens. We already spent money recruiting him let us see what happens now. We need the talent.
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TBird41
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Post by TBird41 on Nov 16, 2010 11:47:55 GMT -5
we've had players break chairs over teamates backs. seemed to workout back then. dont know anything about the kid other than what has surfaced i do know bronxie is right in that we need some kids with an edge just dont know if this one is worth it. Ummmm...what? Really? When did that happen?
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Post by tashoya on Nov 16, 2010 11:51:13 GMT -5
I'm in the no knowledge of Kendrick camp as well but, as an addendum, doesn't really sound like the kind of kid that would fit well with us in terms of our team-oriented style of play.
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Post by bronxhoya87 on Nov 16, 2010 11:54:41 GMT -5
I'm in the no knowledge of Kendrick camp as well but, as an addendum, doesn't really sound like the kind of kid that would fit well with us in terms of our team-oriented style of play. JTIII disagrees since he recruited him hard.
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Post by alleninxis on Nov 16, 2010 12:03:56 GMT -5
All I know about this subject is that Kendrick got kicked off of Memphis for his behavior despite being a McDonald's All American. That's not just a red flag, that is a GIANT RED FLAG. Memphis isn't a program that cares about anything but winning. Kendrick might be a gigantic talent, but a program that didn't care about their star being the driver in a drive by murder KICKED KENDRICK OFF THEIR TEAM. True, I don't know the details, but if being an accomplice to murder doesn't bother Memphis, what did Kendrick do? too much is made of 'It's Memphis and they kicked him out!' Pastner has proven to run a tight ship with the current kids on his roster. Far different from Calipari. I'm not saying Jelan doesn't have issues, but this 'If Memphis' stance is a little short-sighted.
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Post by sleepy on Nov 16, 2010 12:04:03 GMT -5
tbird back before you could crawl.
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Post by lucky on Nov 16, 2010 12:08:25 GMT -5
I've never seen him play either, but he was ranked highly and well thought of by most member of this board while he was being recruited initially. However, if he is a talented as that what would stop him for declaring for the NBA draft this spring and never set foot on another college campus? Someone in the the league would take a crack at him with a second rounder for sure.
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Post by russodj on Nov 16, 2010 12:10:26 GMT -5
I don't know anything about the Kendrick situation in particular other than what's been reported but kids who play with an edge are different than kids who cause problems with the staff and with teammates. By all accounts Trawick is a kid who plays with an edge but is a great teammate and those are the kids that are going to fit in better with JTIII.
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Post by harlemhoya on Nov 16, 2010 12:20:18 GMT -5
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Post by TBird41 on Nov 16, 2010 12:22:52 GMT -5
tbird back before you could crawl. OK, whatever. Enlighten me aged one: How, exactly, did a team with players that were performing WWF moves on each other perform? And what happened to those players after their fight?
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Post by RDF on Nov 16, 2010 12:34:58 GMT -5
Memphis is not worried about Kendrick--because they did a poor job initially of "over-recruiting"--they had too many guys who do the same thing and it was bound to happen that someone wouldn't be happy with minutes/playing time. Crawford is a local kid--important for Pastner to keep happy---you've got Witherspoon already established--the Barton Brothers, Joe Jackson--another local kid who was a big recruiting get for him and he's got Adonis Thomas coming in next year--Pastner's not worried about losing Kendrick.
Jelan is a kid who shouldn't have gone there in first place. When you are unhappy--things can happen and just need a change of scenery. Georgetown recruited him hard, and he's got a relationship with Markel Starks--remember that MM video/picture/article where it was Markel, Nate, Riley (yep--the good ole days he was commited, LOL) standing with Kendrick and Markel said they were going to get his "friend to join him....." and mentioned how he's stayed with Jelan/family in Atlanta and vice versa when Kendrick's come to DC.
Kendrick would come in--practice with team for season--if it's not working out-then it's on him--if it does-you have a player who is already learned the system, and ready to contribute. His skill set/size is perfect for Georgetown--think Darrel Owens--but Kendrick is more aggressive and better with ball. He'd bring size--and would have chemistry with every returning player, not to mention that it doesn't effect Trawick because that is type of size/players you want--bigger/versatile and we've got some solid smaller guards already--Jason, Vee, and Markel returning.
Again-it's all speculation at this point--but Nolan (Alleninxis) provided the info (thanks btw) that Hoyas have contacted him--have good established relationship with him and if you look at others who were mentioned-I'd put Georgetown ahead of them in terms of fit/style and just because you make one mistake choosing a program--doesn't mean you can't rectify it with a 2nd chance.
Just love idea of a transfer if he fits-because he can learn things and contribute faster. Worked with Pat, worked with Hollis, and hope if staff chooses to do so--it works with Jelan. Off court stuff is always 2 way thing--you get 1 side and guy who leaves is "bad apple". Pastner is not proven--seeing him and talking with him over Summer--he's nice guy and far classier then D-Bag Pearl, but he is learning it's not just about talent--it's about fit/building a roster.
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Post by RDF on Nov 16, 2010 12:36:51 GMT -5
tbird back before you could crawl. OK, whatever. Enlighten me aged one: How, exactly, did a team with players that were performing WWF moves on each other perform? And what happened to those players after their fight? This crap happens all the time--it's not big deal as long as it's kept inhouse and doesn't transfer to off court issues. I've heard of players punching coaches in CFB and CBB too and some of those teams are most successful in sport. Families have issues and how they deal with them is reflective of how they are--so you just move on.
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Post by williambraskyiii on Nov 16, 2010 12:45:44 GMT -5
OK, whatever. Enlighten me aged one: How, exactly, did a team with players that were performing WWF moves on each other perform? And what happened to those players after their fight? This crap happens all the time--it's not big deal as long as it's kept inhouse and doesn't transfer to off court issues. I've heard of players punching coaches in CFB and CBB too and some of those teams are most successful in sport. Families have issues and how they deal with them is reflective of how they are--so you just move on. Didn't wesley wilson punch someone out? also, if the GU program evinces anything, it is the spirit of redemption or second chances. I know it may be cliched, but AI embodies this more than anyone. He was the one that broke a chair over someone's head (or at least was accused of such). If JTIII thinks he can handle Jalen then I don't see a problem taking a chance on him. As others have mentioned, you gotta make it right with second chances, because there are rarely third ones. [though Tiki Mayben would disagree].
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