DonkDonk
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Post by DonkDonk on Mar 27, 2006 13:04:22 GMT -5
really, dcgator, still here? I mean really?
I can't tell if Noah looks like a really primitive man or what humans will look like in the future (kind of like Charlie Villanueva) but he sure looks weird to me.
So it's settled. He's an alien "heading to Indianapolis while my team stays home."
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Post by Admin on Mar 27, 2006 13:20:08 GMT -5
Was it just natural incompetence, or was there a valid reason Craig took a pass on Noah? I think we've reached the end of the line, again.. Rule 3 of the message board warns against repetitive posting. You've had 50 posts to move past your disputes with Craig Esherick, and it isn't working. People are tired of it. So that's it. Enjoy the off-season, but it's time for you to take another break.
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Boz
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Post by Boz on Mar 27, 2006 13:24:42 GMT -5
I think we've reached the end of the line, again.. Rule 3 of the message board warns against repetitive posting. You've had 50 posts to move past your disputes with Craig Esherick, and it isn't working. People are tired of it. So that's it. Enjoy the off-season, but it's time for you to take another break. AND THE CROWD GOES WILD!!!! STANDING O FOR DAN MCQ!!!!
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Post by SoCal Hoya85 on Mar 27, 2006 13:30:58 GMT -5
I second Boz's enthusiasm.
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Eurostar
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Post by Eurostar on Mar 27, 2006 13:31:04 GMT -5
reminding me of dudley is just a comment... not a compliment or put down. both are super annoying, unless they are on your team. if noah was a hoya, no one would be complaining about his antics. there would only be talk of how he energizes the team and how great a competitor he is. there would be NO ONE in your "glad we don't have these type players" camp.
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Post by williambraskyiii on Mar 27, 2006 13:32:58 GMT -5
save one
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Post by TX Hoya on Mar 27, 2006 13:38:09 GMT -5
For those of you who were in school during the Esherick years and watched most of his games, the guy was one of the worst coaches with Xs and Os as well as clock management. It was pathetic. His term at the helm was an embarrassment to our program - it's unfortunate that I was forced to watch his teams during my time on the Hilltop as opposed to the well-coached team we put on the floor today.
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Post by hoyarooter on Mar 27, 2006 13:57:57 GMT -5
Maybe I'm just piling on here, but I have to agree that edstimes' post is ridiculous and unnecessarily hateful. I had no use for Esherick. But let's face it, Noah was not considered a top prospect in high school. Going after Guibunda rather than Noah may have been a mistake (certainly Roy and Jeff weren't mistakes), but no one could have reasonably said at the time that that was a stupid decision. It was just a judgment call that didn't work out. It happens.
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Post by guru on Mar 27, 2006 13:58:05 GMT -5
For those of you who were in school during the Esherick years and watched most of his games, the guy was one of the worst coaches with Xs and Os as well as clock management. It was pathetic. His term at the helm was an embarrassment to our program - it's unfortunate that I was forced to watch his teams during my time on the Hilltop as opposed to the well-coached team we put on the floor today. Just when you think "edstimes" is gone, he returns as "marshallwhite"! This guy is diabolical, and his obsession with bashing Esherick is turning a little scary.
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Massholya
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Post by Massholya on Mar 27, 2006 14:21:19 GMT -5
And two... Again, as I said in my original comment, I'm not against emotion. In fact, I love it. But when a guy like Noah is shouting after every block, complaining about every call, and pounding his chest after every dunk, to me it seems more like he's trying to draw attention to himself. That's the part that's distasteful to me. Maybe you enjoy it. Maybe you want a guy like that on your team. As for myself, I've played on teams with guys like that and the act wears thin pretty quickly. So you can take him E-star. As for me, I'll pass on his WWE persona.
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Boz
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Post by Boz on Mar 27, 2006 14:25:45 GMT -5
My only problem with Noah is "Jo-Ah-Keem".
There's something really, really wrong with that. I'm not sure what, but something.
Buddy, your name is "Wah-Keem." Just accept it. The way you dress, be happy people arent' calling you "Juwanna."
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hifigator
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Post by hifigator on Mar 27, 2006 14:59:45 GMT -5
Why did Jim Calhoun pass on Ryan Gomes? He got Emeka Okafor and Caron Butler. We got Jeff Green and Roy Hibbert, AND Esh recruited him when he saw something in him. Noah was a late bloomer. Esh didn't pass on Noah. He recruited him. Noah CHOSE to go to Florida. Its funny how Esh gets the blame for everything, but people don't know what really went on behind the scenes. Esh was a lame duck coach the day he took over for JT2. But Esh's blind loyalty made him oblivious to the fact. I am not real good with this computer thing, but there was an article in our paper (Gainesville Sun) a week or so back on this very issue. At least from that perspective Joakim wanted to go to Georgetown and even tried to talk the school into recruiting him. For some reason they didn't. He did have a growth spurt that started to wards the end of his junion year. He grew something like 7 inches in a year or so. He actually was a point guard as a junior. No wonder he can handle the ball so well for a "big." In any case, at least from that writer's perspective, Noah wanted to go to Georgetown but they didn't want him. It also mentioned that he went to hoops camps at G'town for something like 6 or 7 years in a row and that Patrick Ewing gave him his first basketball. I am not trying to "rub your nose" in it in any way, but it isn't like Noah "chose" Florida over Georgetown.
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HarbinHoya
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Post by HarbinHoya on Mar 27, 2006 15:03:29 GMT -5
This whole thread is completely pointless. Who cares that we didnt recruit Noah, hes not the most amazing player or anything, he had a decent game against us, but by no means a stellar performance, if we had beaten Florida no one would be talking about this and we cant recruit him now, so who cares why Esherick didnt recruit him. I dont think we need another 50 page thread to determine that Esherick was a sub par leader for the Hoyas. We now have a new coach who is recruiting good guys, lets focus on that.
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hifigator
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Post by hifigator on Mar 27, 2006 15:07:32 GMT -5
And two... Again, as I said in my original comment, I'm not against emotion. In fact, I love it. But when a guy like Noah is shouting after every block, complaining about every call, and pounding his chest after every dunk, to me it seems more like he's trying to draw attention to himself. That's the part that's distasteful to me. Maybe you enjoy it. Maybe you want a guy like that on your team. As for myself, I've played on teams with guys like that and the act wears thin pretty quickly. So you can take him E-star. As for me, I'll pass on his WWE persona. I can understand someone thinking that who hasn't seen him play all year, but that couldn't be farther from the truth. He is a very emotional player and it really is spontaneous. He also isn't a "crybaby" looking for calls. Everyone gets a bad call now and then and feels like they got the shaft. He doesn't complain as much as most others, let alone more. As far as drawing attention to himself ... you are off your rocker. Since day one this team has been a TEAM. Those four sophomores are inseparable, on and off the floor. You only remember the chest pumping, but there are just as many hugs on the bench during a timeout and just as many pick me ups when someone makes a mistake. I understand disappointment when you lose. I have been there and done that far too much myself, but don't try to twist it around and make a positive into a negative. The natural raw emotion from these guys who are totally unselfish is amazing. They really do enjoy seeing the other guys in the spotlight and not because they are scared of it, they are just honestly happy for the other guy.
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Post by kchoya on Mar 27, 2006 15:17:36 GMT -5
Plus our basketball budget can't afford Noah's makeup bill. Worst Florida makeup since Katherine Harris. I'm satisfied with our part man, part ravenous beast. Damn straight!
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hifigator
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Post by hifigator on Mar 27, 2006 15:23:47 GMT -5
My only problem with Noah is "Jo-Ah-Keem". There's something really, really wrong with that. I'm not sure what, but something. Buddy, your name is "Wah-Keem." Just accept it. The way you dress, be happy people arent' calling you "Juwanna." That's kind of strage don't you think? You dislike the guy because of his name .... it's not like he had much say in that matter is it? And for the record, don't pay attention to the CBS guys. Hell, they can't even get our coaches name right. It is Billy Donovan NOT "Dunovan." Noah's name is pronounced "Joe-Kim" just like that. The boy's name "Joe" and the girl's name "Kim." I have a german friend "Joahim" (sp?) and it is pronounced "Yo-ah-kim"
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hifigator
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Post by hifigator on Mar 27, 2006 15:30:01 GMT -5
I'm satisfied with our part man, part ravenous beast. Damn straight! Come on, are you guys serious? You lost a basketball game to a pretty dang good team and your response is to whine about the way one guy on the other team looks? I expected more of you than that. You are Georgetown. You have tradition. And losing in the Sweet 16 to anyone is no embarrassment. Responding like this, complaing about his hair ... his name ... his "makeup" ... now that's embarrassing. I wouldn't have expected such silliness from Georgetown.
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Post by dairishhoya on Mar 27, 2006 15:47:25 GMT -5
Just returning from Minneapolis and having seen Noah play in person I'm really not that impressed with his "game."
As a fellow HoyaTalk member pointed out while we were watching the UF v. Nova game -- Noah plays basketball like a tennis player. It's all about him. He plays the team sport as though it's an individual sport.
He thumps his chest and mugs for the camera on routine plays. He contests every call made on him or around him (why he doesn't get more technical fouls for his antics is beyond me). He knows the crowd is in the stands and plays to them.
As williambraskyiii said maybe this is the type of behavior UF fans and coaches want. Yes, he is extremely athletic -- like a pogo stick -- and hustles his butt off, but as a basketball player he is incomplete and at times takes away from the team sport.
I for one happen to appreciate the team sport more than individual personalities
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Btw hifigator, stand up for your team all you want, but don't dismiss criticism just because you don't like it or you think it's sour grapes ... I was in the Metrodome and this happens to be the impression that I was left with after watching both UF games.
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Post by TBird41 on Mar 27, 2006 16:04:31 GMT -5
Come on, are you guys serious? You lost a basketball game to a pretty dang good team and your response is to whine about the way one guy on the other team looks? I expected more of you than that. You are Georgetown. You have tradition. And losing in the Sweet 16 to anyone is no embarrassment. Responding like this, complaing about his hair ... his name ... his "makeup" ... now that's embarrassing. I wouldn't have expected such silliness from Georgetown. We aren't complaining. We're mocking. There's a difference. We appreciated the BASKETBALL talk from gator fans prior to that game. That game is now over. So we don't really care anymore, and we don't care if you find our jokes "embarrassing". Now go away or Roy will eat you.
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Boz
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Post by Boz on Mar 27, 2006 16:10:51 GMT -5
Noah has a French tennis player father, a Swedish sculptor mother, wears a dress and has a ponytail.
You are absolutely right. There is nothing remotely funny about any of that.
I apologize for my juvenile attempts at making a joke at his expense. How stupid of me.
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