mrsixer123
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Post by mrsixer123 on Dec 5, 2007 20:52:08 GMT -5
"nba scouts have to take notice hoy roy can not finish strong around the rim in traffic"
A direct quote from the game analyst!
Oh I know, roy iis not up for bama so he is playing soft yet again
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Post by BeantownHoya on Dec 5, 2007 20:58:07 GMT -5
Excellent point Mr. Sixer.
I have also had to hear about "free throw offense" about 10 times this game. He is doing a great job as an analyst. Either way as long as analyst says it, well it must be true.
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mrsixer123
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Post by mrsixer123 on Dec 5, 2007 21:02:50 GMT -5
Keep the blinders on all you want, roy is playing soft as cotton. Period
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Post by strummer8526 on Dec 5, 2007 21:30:10 GMT -5
As much as I thought the commentator was a total idiot, I agree with sixer at this point. I'm sending at text to my friend about it right now, but seriously. Roy needs to start using his size and strength.
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Massholya
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Post by Massholya on Dec 5, 2007 21:44:14 GMT -5
roy has a very high center of gravity and often gets pushed out by stronger players. He really needs to work on his lower body strength.
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HoyaNyr320
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Post by HoyaNyr320 on Dec 5, 2007 21:55:03 GMT -5
Keep the blinders on all you want, roy is playing soft as cotton. Period Last year, you repeatedly posted about how we lacked a true point guard and how we would not be able to overcome this fatal flaw. As the season progressed, our guards played better and you stopped talking about our "lack of a true point guard." This year, you are repeatedly posting about Roy being soft. We are only 5 games in here- I fully expect Roy and the rest of guys to play an entirely different game during the Big East season. For now, I'm very pleased with Roy's 14 point, 9 rebound, 4 block effort and the fact that our team dominated during crunch time. If Roy is still "soft" come Big East play, you can come back and whine on this message board.
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MCIGuy
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Post by MCIGuy on Dec 5, 2007 22:06:46 GMT -5
It was not one of Roy's better efforts. It hurt that after early success he didn't seem to get touches for the last fifteen minutes of the first half but in the second when he had opportunities he blew some shots that he can make in his sleep. And he missed too many free throws. But I've seen him score in traffic against tougher and better teams than this. Maybe he does need to exert himself more, maybe he's relying too much on the hook and by all means he needs to get nastier and a bit more selfish. However I don't see him playing soft. Hendrix couldn't even establish position against him in the second half and we're talking about a kid who even bullied Texas A&M's frontcourt. One game and one commentator does not make a season.
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Post by LeRoyHoya on Dec 5, 2007 22:27:43 GMT -5
Personally, I like Jimmy Dykes as an analyst. He doesn't normally get the top games in the country, but he normally is knowledgable and much more tolerable than most. I thought it was pretty good when he drew up the free throw play and Georgetown ran it exactly as diagrammed. I would have taken my victory and stopped, rather than talk about the same thing the other end of the court.
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Post by Dhall on Dec 5, 2007 22:42:44 GMT -5
It's no coincidence that Roy was most productive at the beginning and end of the game ... when the rest of the starters were on the court with him. Basketball is a team sport. He's going to be much better surrounded by Wallace, Sapp, etc. as opposed to Wright, Freeman, Rivers. Just like last year.
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lichoya68
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Post by lichoya68 on Dec 5, 2007 22:54:39 GMT -5
agree with above post but do think the commentators are right he needs to be more aggressive and finish HARD with dunks scores and going to the hoop for bounds agree its team and he does come out at money time and i love him but what if he was 20% more aggressive and assertive OH WHAT A NITE gohoyas congrats bama wasnot bad and i think it was dajuann with 18 and nine rebbies that was the mvp cause he hite some key threes at money time and had three rebbiees at the end at critical time go hoyas beat jacksonville ps do they still have artis gilmore?? go hoays ;D
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Post by lichoya68 on Dec 5, 2007 22:55:39 GMT -5
nasty selfish roy roy roy oh YESSSSS YES YES GO HOYAS GO ROY ;D ;D ;D ;D
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Post by bubbrubbhoya on Dec 5, 2007 23:02:06 GMT -5
Roy has proven himself many times against tough opponents down low. When he has a hard time is when four guys jump him every time he's under the hoop with no call. It's true that he can improve his strength and finishing, and I'd also like to see him get mean every game, but he got jobbed a LOT by the refs tonight. He wasn't the only one, either, as there were a lot of scrums under the Georgetown basket that went without a whistle.
Also, I'm glad to see that you haven't changed, ixer. You are HT's rock!
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Post by hoyatables on Dec 6, 2007 0:03:38 GMT -5
Ultimately, the Hoyas succeed with a balanced attack. Roy is a key weapon in our arsenal, but he can't be the only one. With Jeff gone and no other clear superstar (yet), Roy is the easy target for an opposing team, and Gottfried's squad did a very good job of jamming Roy up in the middle. Roy was doing his best to get open and get the ball, but few opportunities presented themselves. Towards the end of the game, however, when the offense started to flow more properly and the rest of team started to hit some shots with consistency, Alabama had to spread their defense out, which opened up Roy for some passes and moves. In order for Roy to be most effective, the rest of the offense needs to be enough of a threat that Roy is not "the" option, but rather one of at least three and at best five options.
That all said, Roy did seem a little off his game, and missed some layups and hook shots that he tends to make. I chalk that up to the general beating he received down low. Roy did draw a number of fouls in the process, and tended to hit many (though not most) of his foul shots. I don't think that Roy looked "soft" under the basket; rather, I think he recognized the fact that he was generally double and tripled teamed, and did his best to draw fouls and avoid costly turnovers.
Just my two cents.
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Post by WVHoyasfan on Dec 6, 2007 0:34:23 GMT -5
The only thing that I want Hibbert to work on is when he gets a rebound and gets ready to put it in the basket he brings brings the ball down instead of keeping the ball over his head. He is 7.2 but he becomes shorter like 6.2 b/c he brings the ball down were the defenders are.He difinently needs to work on that.
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Post by FLHoya on Dec 6, 2007 7:08:50 GMT -5
Ultimately, the Hoyas succeed with a balanced attack. Roy is a key weapon in our arsenal, but he can't be the only one. With Jeff gone and no other clear superstar (yet), Roy is the easy target for an opposing team, and Gottfried's squad did a very good job of jamming Roy up in the middle. Roy was doing his best to get open and get the ball, but few opportunities presented themselves. Towards the end of the game, however, when the offense started to flow more properly and the rest of team started to hit some shots with consistency, Alabama had to spread their defense out, which opened up Roy for some passes and moves. In order for Roy to be most effective, the rest of the offense needs to be enough of a threat that Roy is not "the" option, but rather one of at least three and at best five options. That all said, Roy did seem a little off his game, and missed some layups and hook shots that he tends to make. I chalk that up to the general beating he received down low. Roy did draw a number of fouls in the process, and tended to hit many (though not most) of his foul shots. I don't think that Roy looked "soft" under the basket; rather, I think he recognized the fact that he was generally double and tripled teamed, and did his best to draw fouls and avoid costly turnovers. Just my two cents. This is about where I stand too. There's always the temptation for the crowd at a game to scream GIVE IT TO ROY!--and why not, he's the star after all--but teams are in fact focusing their defensive effort on Roy this year. I also think Alabama did an excellent job defending Roy from about the 10-12 minute of the first half until the final possession, and Fairfield did a better job than people gave them credit for. It's more than just GIVE THE BALL TO ROY!--the rest of the team has to hit their shots to keep the defense honest, and THEN (not just through brute force of feeding the ball inside at all costs) will the opportunities start to present themselves. Roy improved from the foul line last night and got quite a few attempts, so that's a positive. What I like most though about Roy's game the past two go-rounds is that the key offensive play in crunch time was set up by a Hibbert ASSIST from the post (Sapp's 3 last night and Rivers' +1 layup on the baseline against Fairfield). The post-game interview with the big guy said a lot too--he wants to get the other guys involved because he recognizes the defense is collapsing on him and trying to be physical. Sign of a great player, not just trying to do it one way, but getting it to the guy best positioned to make a play.
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mrsixer123
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Post by mrsixer123 on Dec 6, 2007 7:17:51 GMT -5
Some of you on this board are clueless. I have tried to put up with the new regime, but I am and never will be a homer. I call it llike I see it, always have, always will
That being said, let me find a board with fans that can actually speak the truth, and not ignore flaws in their team in addition to not ignoring bigot comments.
Have fun in your candy land like board where all is good every single game
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Post by DanMcQ on Dec 6, 2007 7:53:40 GMT -5
Mrsixer: Point me to the 'bigot comments' in this thread? I see posts that agree and disagree with your basketball points. I am also unclear what you mean by the 'new regime'? Who are you talking about?
I fail to see where posters are expressing that 'all is good every single game'. In fact, most posters agree with your premise that Roy needs to finish stronger around the rim. Go back and read the prior game threads and you'll find plenty of posters who see flaws in the team so far.
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Post by prhoya on Dec 6, 2007 7:56:28 GMT -5
Some of you on this board are clueless. I have tried to put up with the new regime, but I am and never will be a homer. I call it llike I see it, always have, always will That being said, let me find a board with fans that can actually speak the truth, and not ignore flaws in their team in addition to not ignoring bigot comments. Have fun in your candy land like board where all is good every single game I recommend the U of Maryland's board.
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Post by strummer8526 on Dec 6, 2007 8:43:06 GMT -5
Some of you on this board are clueless. I have tried to put up with the new regime, but I am and never will be a homer. I call it llike I see it, always have, always will That being said, let me find a board with fans that can actually speak the truth, and not ignore flaws in their team in addition to not ignoring bigot comments. Have fun in your candy land like board where all is good every single game Maybe I'm too new to know what this means, but what's the "new regime"? Also, I think this should be in the running for worst post of the year. And I had agreed w/ the original point, so you can't say that I'm being "a homer."
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Post by ExcitableBoy on Dec 6, 2007 8:55:55 GMT -5
Some of you on this board are clueless. I have tried to put up with the new regime, but I am and never will be a homer. I call it llike I see it, always have, always will That being said, let me find a board with fans that can actually speak the truth, and not ignore flaws in their team in addition to not ignoring bigot comments. Have fun in your candy land like board where all is good every single game Yeah, you could look at it like that. Or, you could look at the first seven games of a college season as just that. We're 6-0 this season (looking down the barrel of a 7-0 start) and were 4-3 in our final four season last year. If you are seriously angry with Roy or any other Hoya for that matter, you might want to reevaluate things. These are amatuer athletes representing Georgetown extremely well and winning basketball games. We've got the record, the ranking, the players, and the coaches. I'm not sure how refusing to buy into your hype that Roy is not a great college backetball player will help me enjoy this season any more. Call me ignorant if you want, but I would prefer to enjoy this year's team for what it is (undefeated and ranked #4) than wait for another year with a more perfect team with a more perfect 7'2" center. EDIT: Jumped the gun on 7-0.
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