HoyaChris
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Post by HoyaChris on Aug 17, 2011 10:41:20 GMT -5
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Post by HoyaChris on Jul 24, 2011 22:11:31 GMT -5
Nothing would be better than having a big who can bust up the Syracuse zone with a jump shot from just below the free throw line. Each of Porter, Hopkins, and Whittington seem like good candidates.
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Post by HoyaChris on Jul 8, 2011 14:57:35 GMT -5
This is not a history rewrite. I had a long conversation with Calvin Hill (Grant's father) on a Dallas Cowboys flight and we discussed his recruiting in detail. Calvin downplayed the Mary Fenlon story and said that in the end, Grant's decision came down to the comparison between JTJr. and Coach K. To paraphrase, Big John was right across the river and never showed up for a South Lakes home game, while Coach K always seemed to be at the games despite being several hundred miles away.
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Post by HoyaChris on Jul 8, 2011 12:21:51 GMT -5
Pops and company recruited well in late '80's--they just didn't keep some valuable parts or replace them. Think of it this way--with Mourning playing in Dapper Dan in '88, Vitale was talking about Chris Jackson being a possibility for Georgetown-but word was Kenny Anderson was a heavy lean to Georgetown--so you had 2 of the best college players in country ready at the guard position to take over--and end up with Joey Brown. Then you had John Turner leave-and Larry Johnson wanting to come--but Hoyas back off and end up with Brian Kelly. Grant Hill doesn't come-but Robert Churchwell does. This is why recruiting is important. If III ever has Broadus back on trail with Kirby--Georgetown will be bringing in hauls of talent. I think the point is that our recruiting would have been great if the personal recruiting commitment was from Pops and not from the "and company". For example, Big John never went to see Grant Hill play in person, leaving that task to Esch.
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Post by HoyaChris on Jul 8, 2011 9:33:22 GMT -5
One can only imagine how amazing our late 1980s and early 1990s teams would have been if JTIII's father had put in one tenth of the effort of his son on the recruiting trail.
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Post by HoyaChris on May 28, 2011 18:30:49 GMT -5
One point that is working very strongly in favor of the league staying together is that the league is close to a monster TV deal and that deal is being negotiated by Hoya Paul Tagliabue.
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Post by HoyaChris on May 20, 2011 19:46:52 GMT -5
The 7.7 per game is from last year. This year he averaged 13.2. He seems to have had some injury issues and has not played since April 1st although his team is in the playoffs. He is 23 and would be going into his third college season.
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Post by HoyaChris on Apr 29, 2011 5:02:31 GMT -5
I watched the Hoyas' open practice before the VCU debacle. For the last half hour, Moses had one end of the court to himself, working with a coach on receiving entry passes with his back to the basket and making various moves going in either direction. Moses was working hard. All of the other players - including the walk-ons - were running drills at the other end of the court.
Moses is clearly a superior athlete. He is all arms and legs and muscle. He also has no neck which means that his height will understate his wingspan. And he runs the court extremely well for a big man.
When you take an athlete who is willing to work hard and coach him up there is tremendous upside. I think JT III spent last year waiting for everything to click and it didn't happen. I think there is a good chance that things click this year and Moses sees double figure minutes. By his senior year he will be a beast.
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Post by HoyaChris on Apr 13, 2011 6:16:49 GMT -5
Watching all of the video clips, the thing that has me the most excited is Otto's ability to hit the 12-15 foot turnaround from the top of the lane, or in other words, the shot you need to have to destroy the Syracuse zone.
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Post by HoyaChris on Mar 29, 2011 17:15:28 GMT -5
I tend to agree with HoyaChris...with a couple of exceptions. Note sure I would say Austin is "clearly behind" Wingate...in my mind they are within a few spots of eachother...i think its debatable. Austin Freeman on that team probably does very well. Certainly not the defender Wingate was though. I'd also put Austin well ahead of Mark Tillmon. While Austin was clearly a better scorer than David Wingate, Wingate's defense was good enough to sustain a 15 year NBA career and he scored enough off of his defense to score more total points than Austin. I actually think the Mark Tillmon comparison is among the closest matches with Austin. Mark actually outscored Austin in his Freshman, Sophomore and Senior seasons. In fact, Mark's senior season is Austin's senior season without Austin's season-ending slump. Both were Big East first team and honorable mention All American. Mark's career numbers are pulled down by a junior year in which he played hurt for the whole season. And Tillmon was a far better defender.
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Post by HoyaChris on Mar 29, 2011 12:59:43 GMT -5
In my view Austin ranks somewhere between 14 and 21 on the list of greatest Hoyas of the Thompson Era - i.e. the period from 1972-3 to today). Based on accomplishment and contribution to team performance, I would have him clearly behind Patrick, Reggie, Sleepy, Zo, A.I., Jeff, John Duren, Craig Shelton, Derrick Jackson, Roy, David Wingate, and Charles Smith and Mike Sweetney in a group with Dikembe, Greg, Othella, Michael Jackson, Merlin Wilson, Victor Page and Mark Tillmon.
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Post by HoyaChris on Mar 23, 2011 17:08:11 GMT -5
Jeff is clearly a far better fit for the Celtics' offense than for the Thunder's. The player movement and the ball movement are big benefits.
The real interesting thing to watch is on defense. The Thunder would basically switch on anything and Jeff was an enthusiastic switcher. The Celtics expect you to fight through screens which has the effect of substantially reducing mismatches. As of right now, Jeff still seems like he is fighting a tendency to switch.
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Post by HoyaChris on Mar 22, 2011 14:46:57 GMT -5
Hey, they shot 78% in the first half. They have to cool down in the second.
We've already beaten Providence three times. Making the Final Four will be easy.
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Post by HoyaChris on Mar 17, 2011 20:52:27 GMT -5
Chris looked good at practice today, but you could tell that he was trying to work his left hand while dribbling. His three point shooting was OK from the corner, but almost perfect from the wings.
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Post by HoyaChris on Mar 17, 2011 1:39:23 GMT -5
The Hoyas have played VCU just once before. We did not win.
Before Hoya fans were traumatized by the mere thought of playing lower seeded teams in the NCAA (thank you Davidson and Ohio U), there was a time when we were traumatized by playing schools from southern Virginia in the postseason. Four times in a five year period from 1977 to 1981, the Hoyas lost post-season games to schools we had never heard of - to ODU and VCU in ECAC South NCAA play in games in 1977 and 1978, to Virginia Tech in the 1977 NIT (OK we had heard of Virginia Tech) and to James Madison in the 1981 NCAAs. By far the most traumatizing of these games was the loss to Virginia Commonwealth.
The Hoya team that met Virginia Commonwealth in the ECAC South play-in game was - up to that point - the best team in Georgetown basketball history. It featured three of the top ten players to have (still) ever played for Georgetown in senior guard Derrick Jackson who would leave the school as the team's leading career scorer and the superlative sophomore pair of John Duren and Craig Shelton. The Hoyas had been ranked in the AP top 20 for most of the back half of the season subsequent to beating Holy Cross and Alabama in the Holiday Festival at MSG.
The ECAC (East Coast Athletic Conference) was a not really a conference but a collection of independent East Coast teams that predated the formation of -among others - the Big East. The teams were split into - I think - three divisions and the South included teams such as Villanova, West Virginia, George Washington, Navy and ourselves. At the end of the season some sort of selection committee would choose four schools to play-in to the newly expanded NCAA Tournament. Georgetown won this play-in in 1975, beating West Virginia on the famous Derrick Jackson shot at the buzzer and archrival GW in 1976 while an injury-riddled 1977 Hoya team lost to ODU at McDonough.
1978 was my senior year and our confidence was high as we headed several hours early to get good seats at GW's new on campus arena. We spent most of the extended pre-game speculating as to how many years it would be before we got a new arena - confident guess at the time about five years - and it was maybe only ten minutes before game time that we noticed that Derrick Jackson was not on the floor. Our emotions spiralled down from confusion to concern to panic because Derrick had been the constant in our Georgetown watching lives, leading the team in scoring for the prior three and a half seasons. As it turns out, DJ was stricken with an ulcer attack and would never play another game for Georgetown. The team too seemed out of sorts, got down early and was never really in the game losing by a final score of 88-75.
Now as it turns out, VCU was much more talented than we could possibly have known in the pre-internet age. The team included future NBA star Gerald Henderson and future NBA player Edmund Sherod. But the killer for us was a freshman small forward named Danny Kottak who scored about 27 points playing on an injured ankle. I am still haunted by the memory of basket after basket going in off glass from 20 feet.
Georgetown too validated its talent level, recovering from the shock of losing Derrick to win two NIT road games without Derrick and lose in the NIT semifinal in the Garden on a half court heave back when the NCAA tournament was smaller and the NIT meant something.
I feel like Friday's VCU game has Kharmic significance. My memories of the first VCU game are particularly acute. One of our group was a prolific and talented photographer who spent the pre-game taking pictures of our favorite subject, ourselves, as we waited for the game in the stands. I found one of these pictures by chance a week or so ago before the bracket came out. Another friend, with whom I have shared almost every big Hoya moment of the past 35 years, bought a group of old Georgetown Today magazines on Ebay and discovered a chance picture of me taken during the NIT run. Most scarily, I spoke with John Duren before the Syracuse game and the topic was his recollection of the first VCU game and how strange it had seemed to be playing without DJ.
This is more than coincidence. On Friday night I will be at the game sitting next to the friend who took the pictures that night and the friend who found the old magazine. Friday night will hopefully bring a Georgetown team buoyed by the return of a critical player rather than the sudden loss of one. 33 years ago the universe broke my heart and Friday it gets to pay me back.
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Post by HoyaChris on Mar 12, 2011 8:49:15 GMT -5
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Post by HoyaChris on Mar 1, 2011 9:00:14 GMT -5
Looking down from up in the nosebleeds isay less than 200 in the lower bowl discounting the team tickets behind the bench and may be less. the 200s had a greater percentage but less than 20% of the total. yes they did have a couple of orange boxes not much you can do about that especially when box owners are selling the tickets. I thought the 400s was easily 60/40 Georgetown with a lot of students with older parents. First time for me at Verizon loved the place and will be back soon. It is not generally box owners selling their tickets. Rather, those boxes are owned by companies who are primarily purchasing for the Caps and the Wizards. Often those boxes are empty for Hoya games. Usually those boxes are targeted by Syracuse alums who work at those firms and then filled up with their friends. In some small way, you have to respect a firm that would reserve a box for the janitor.
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Post by HoyaChris on Feb 24, 2011 13:37:49 GMT -5
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Post by HoyaChris on Feb 23, 2011 23:15:02 GMT -5
Obviously one of the worst played Hoya games in a long, long time.
The game is almost irrelevant compared to Chris's hand.
I'm going to sit down and take a long look at the standings, but there is a reasonable chance that we are looking at playing on Tuesday if we can't win one of the next two.
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Post by HoyaChris on Feb 19, 2011 21:48:22 GMT -5
i am amazed they only outrebie us 27-25 but killed us on their offensive boards i think we musta got SOME key rebbies at the end adn hollis HOWS ABOUT THAT BLOCK and that drive to the hoop and 11-12 foulshots and chris 8-8 and me thinkg six for six at the end CRUNCH TIME close but a wins a win and third place all alone WRIGHT NOW BABY go hoyas beat cinncy ;D ;D The 27-25 margin does not include team rebounds which we probably lost by something like 10-1. The official box will more accurately reflect our rebounding deficit.
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