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Post by hoya9797 on Apr 24, 2023 20:09:18 GMT -5
If he is “At best a bench warmer in the NBA”, how is maximizing his value and earning potential while in the college ranks a sign of immaturity? If anything it shows he is realistic about his pro prospects and is making sound financial decisions. Kansas and Kentucky may not be academic powerhouses compared to Georgetown, but they are the Harvard and Yale of college basketball, plus they have big time boosters. The myth of the high level college athlete choosing a program for the “value of education” is dead. If GU wants to compete, it will assign value just as Hunter is doing. If GU is hoping recruits will come for the “education”, it’s going to be tough going. In the ever-shifting world of NIL and college basketball transfer portal, what Hunter D is doing is probably shrewd I suppose and pretty blatant, but I also sense some of what hoya18 says and feels. I don't know a lot about HD, but the buzz of coming off as immature and jerky is there, and there is something unseemly about wooing him with big NIL bucks and going big time on that front. Why it unseemly to try to pay someone who has value? That’s all that’s happening here.
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Post by hoya9797 on Apr 19, 2023 13:46:08 GMT -5
Again, this is what happens when you do single elimination tournaments. For example, KenPom said that Houston was 81.3% to beat Miami. That means that, on average, if they kept playing Miami would win about 19 out of 100 times. While those are low odds, it still shows that in the long-run Miami is going to win a fair number of times. Alabama was 75% to beat San Diego State. Again, that means that if you played 100 games, San Diego State would win 25 times. That's a lot, and while "unlikely," San Diego State winning in that scenario isn't crazy. KenPom had the San Diego State/Creighton game at basically 50-50, San Diego won by 1 point. So, not sure what you think this even tells us. Florida Atlantic's odds of beating Tennessee were 30%, and Florida Atlantic was actually just over 50% to beat Kansas State, so again that's another 50-50 game. When you have a single elimination 50-50 type game, variance/luck/who is hot is going to affect the outcome a lot more in that one game. A single game like that is virtually useless in telling us who is really "better." I am not sure if anybody here plays poker regularly (or did in the past), but if you do, you'd know that 20% outcomes, even if unlikely, happen ALL THE TIME. All due respect to you and your precious kenpom, but Houston is not beating Miami 81 out of 100 times, as anyone who watched the game would tell you. Furthermore, Maryland is not slightly superior to Miami, as KenPom would have you believe. Statistical analysis of NCAA Men's Basketball can be instructive, but your reliance on it to mask your ignorance and/or indifference to the games being played is a real bore. Maryland beat Miami by 18 so maybe they are more than slightly superior. Surely that one result matters the most when comparing the two.
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Post by hoya9797 on Apr 19, 2023 5:32:31 GMT -5
#24 Miami beat #2 Houston and #5 Texas #14 San Diego State beat #4 Alabama, #12 Creighton and #17 Florida Atlantic #17 Florida Atlantic beat #6 Tennessee and #21 Kansas State Rankings are post-tourney KenPom. It’s almost like weird things happen in very small samples.
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Post by hoya9797 on Apr 18, 2023 11:01:11 GMT -5
For example, a key reason the Big 12 got 7 of their 10 teams in the tourney was because people nationwide thought the Big 12 was the best league. How exactly do you support this one? KenPom had the Big 12 as the top conference by a pretty wide margin. Was that just because people nationwide thought it was the best? Does he have a variable to adjust his formula for what people nationwide think to be true?
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Post by hoya9797 on Apr 17, 2023 20:45:24 GMT -5
At least he knows what he needs to work on... Any consistency with that shot and he could be dangerous. This is the main reason he couldn’t get PT here. His shot is a line drive so he can’t consistently hit 3s. All his shots are midrange shots (2003’s worst shot in modern basketball) He should just join Seton Hall but looks like his PT their will be limited while he furthered develops as a guard instead of small forward and while Shaheen works on his shot. He’s still looking at Manhattrn college which would be able to offer him a lot of PT. So kind of the same situation with Hall/Georgetown (less PT) vs a lot of minutes (Manhattan college) 28% of his shots last year were midrange 2s. Given that he was playing in a Pat Ewing system, that’s really good.
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Post by hoya9797 on Apr 16, 2023 8:32:55 GMT -5
What a ride for this guy. Gets the big recruit and promotion and, less than a year later, he’s shown to be a complete fraud, his recruit isn’t coming (after a terrible senior year), and he’s off to another place trying to save another coach’s job. I doubt this stop will be any different.
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Post by hoya9797 on Apr 15, 2023 9:18:33 GMT -5
With that "contributor," we are learning that it wasn't Ewing; it wasn't JTIII; it wasn't Ronnie; etc. etc. It's Georgetown. Guy is a first-class GU troll and needs to go on ignore. I told the board this last year around this time. Boya and 9797 aren't GTown bball fans. I don't care how much recruiting info Boya brings to the site. It's just a cover to attempt to hide his true intentions. To make this site not enjoyable for true fans🤷🏾♂️ I don’t know why you’d think that about me. Never did. I was on one beat the entire time - Pat Ewing was a horrible disgrace and needed to go. I was there very early and was proven to be 100% correct. I love GU and GU hoops and am very excited about Cooley and what I think is coming.
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Post by hoya9797 on Apr 12, 2023 14:25:25 GMT -5
This seems like insane hyperbole. But, have you watched him play? I've played with Kidd in summer runs when he was in high school and saw Nash and Stockton a lot in early college year. Watch Aiden a bit in high school, but quite a bit at St. Mary's and watched a lot of practices and games with Roway and summer runs with college and pro player in summer, whien he was in high school. There are a lot of similarities. I love the double down on this absurdity. Don’t back down and don’t change.
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Post by hoya9797 on Apr 10, 2023 17:23:09 GMT -5
FWIW, my comment about Don Reid (one of my favorite Hoyas of all time) and Henry Sims was to refute the comment that good players never have to sit for a year or two in college. Henry Sims was indeed a stud in HS. It was documented fairly well that he did not really work too hard at GU (by his own admission) until he was an upperclassman, at which point he played very well. Don Reid's HS numbers were okay at best. But Big John saw his frame and correctly figured what he would look like after a few years in the weight room. The guy was a beast as a junior and senior and had an amazing NBA career, give where he began. I have no idea what will happen to Allen, but hope it works out for all involved. What do you mean by sit? I’d say a guy like Anglin who didn’t play at all in half the games and averaged 3 mins per game over the season would be a guy who had to sit for a year. That is not what either Reid or Sims did and that is not a common thing for a good player to do. For sure Reid and Sims improved a lot by their junior and senior years but it’s not like they never played and then all of the sudden were good.
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Post by hoya9797 on Apr 10, 2023 12:16:07 GMT -5
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Post by hoya9797 on Apr 8, 2023 19:05:20 GMT -5
Northwestern has had the same head coach since 2014. There was a change in coaching staff wasn't head coach. The plan that was worked out for his offer wasn't what he was going to walk onto the Northwestern campus with. Northwestern seemed to be fine with him decommitting. Rowan committed to Texas not long after the decomit. He committed in late August 2021 and decommitted in late Dec 2021. Seems strange that there would have been some major coaching staff change at that point in the year.
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Post by hoya9797 on Apr 8, 2023 18:21:00 GMT -5
Thanks. Sort of ended up answering my own question. Texas roster says he went to Prep school in MA last three years but did live various places growing up, including DC. Unless his folks still live here (maybe they do) not sure that is much of a draw or leg up and not sure I really should care that much one way or another… His parents still live near campus (not that that is a draw). He was always in Jelleff shooting and working on his game sine early elementary school days. He played up two levels much until high school and played with Noah Batchelor for four years of travel ball. He went to St. Albans his freshman year then went to Mass. for prep school for their basketball program. Kid is passes amazingly well, can create for others, sees the court in transition and half court incredibly well, and can shoot really well from 3, as well as easily get to the basket. Maryland was pitching him hard, but chose Northwestern. That was before Noah decided to decommit and go to Maryland out of IMG. Maryland doesn't seen to be in need of a point guard. Northwestern had a coaching change and Rowan decommitted and went to Texas to red-shirt his freshman year. I think that gets us to current. Northwestern has had the same head coach since 2014.
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Post by hoya9797 on Apr 4, 2023 15:08:13 GMT -5
And again, the question itself is improper. It's not a bilateral choice of (a) benching Primo completely, and (b) playing other people. If you benched him, the goal is to make him play better or adjust his behavior. Most kids will respond to sitting on the bench by changing their play to fit their coach's goals. And, if they don't, you didn't recruit well or you're not a good teacher/motivator. No your retort is improper--the question is who do u replace him with? Hoyas would have beaten St Johns had he not gotten hurt. For Those few minutes he sat on the bench we all saw what happened. So again, to teach this lesson, who would u replace him with? How about anyone else? They were as bad as they could be with him so what’s the harm in trying something new? It’s not like we’d be messing with success here.
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Post by hoya9797 on Apr 3, 2023 18:34:17 GMT -5
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Post by hoya9797 on Apr 2, 2023 11:49:44 GMT -5
Wouldn't the courts strike down any effort by the NCAA/conferences/etc. to limit NIL payments or impose some kind of salary cap? It seems like the courts have already answered the question of whether the NCAA (or any other college sports institution) has the right to have any say whatsoever over the money that college athletes can make through selling their NIL rights. I don't think there is any chance there will ever be any kind of salary cap/limit on NIL payments for this reason - the courts have probably already ruled that this would e illegal. There are salary caps in all the major sports, how could the courts say it is ok in MLB, NBA etc but not NCAA? I’m no lawyer but probably because the cap (or tax in MLB) are collectively bargained. College athletes are not part of a union and can’t do that.
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Post by hoya9797 on Apr 2, 2023 10:19:43 GMT -5
Between the transfer portal and NIL, your roster is uncertain from year-to-year. I miss having guys for four years and watching them develop over time. The value of a GU degree has gone to the wayside. You have to adapt and I'm glad we are, but yeah I miss the old days too. Its what made it a better game than the nba for me. I'm glad players got paid, but I wish there were mechanisms to level the playing field (cap) and promote roster stability as well. I disagree that there should be a cap. But, if you want stability, have the schools pay the players directly (as they always should have been) and put them under contract.
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Post by hoya9797 on Apr 1, 2023 15:51:57 GMT -5
That's certainly one way to peace out - bridges don't need to be left standing I guess Seems like he should have put the quotes around fans.
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Post by hoya9797 on Apr 1, 2023 15:48:05 GMT -5
On a related note, hope those 10 year old tweets dug up on a Hoya related Twitter account (that just went private) are fakes. If not, yeesh Which account?
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Post by hoya9797 on Apr 1, 2023 8:52:36 GMT -5
Congratulations to Malcolm. I wish him the very best. It seems to me that he could have been developed to be a much better player. I dont understand why he was not. I’ll bet he was an excellent student. It’s a real mystery why most of the guys failed to develop over the last six years.
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Post by hoya9797 on Mar 27, 2023 18:41:31 GMT -5
Brandon, I wish you all the best in your future endeavors, and I am sorry for all of the dismissive and disrespectful commentary about you on HoyaTalk. I know this was a tough year, and I hope you know that the most vocal elements here on HoyaTalk do not represent the viewpoints of the majority of Hoya fans, who actually appreciate the hard work you put in on behalf of us all. Best of luck moving forward. Why do you think you can speak on behalf of the majority of the fans?
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