hoya9797
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Post by hoya9797 on Jun 23, 2022 10:26:10 GMT -5
I really don't think my thoughts matter at all. It is clear that the Trumpers on this platform have a plan which is to spew as much negative and hate around this platform and others any chance they get with the hopes that it creates another 1/6 on the Hilltop and Ewing along with others are fired. By any means necessary... So not matter if Ewing does anything positive or negative, the plan is in full operation. You complained about the level of talent... He rebuilds the roster and goes and get significantly better talent and the Trumpers have found a way to bash it (even though many of the new pieces have proven their worth of the college level). You complain about the previous collection of coaches... He rebuilds the coaching staff and before you have seen them work together 1 day, the Trumpers bash it... You complained about the fact that he never does interviews and informs the fanbase... He does an interview and the Trumpers bash him in the interview... And true... He is not the best of communicators. But the guy gave the Trumpers what they wanted. (I appreciated the fact that I heard from him. Thanks Coach Ewing. Keep working hard.) So really, posting anything on this site is a waste of time, especially if it is outside of the Trumper's script and plan to overthrow the men's basketball operations. Please leave political references like this out of the discussion, or move them to the Blue and Gray Board. Part of the reason Georgetown basketball is a fun distraction from life is getting AWAY FROM the political world and that nonsense. That some people need to bring politics into every discussion about everything is really indicative of the bigger cultural malaise of this country. (And yes, I do have strong feelings about politics, as most Georgetown alumni do, but this isn't the place to discuss it.) Anyway, please leave politics out of this Board. It's not productive, as the instant I saw the political reference I tuned out of whatever point you are even trying to make. Nothing wrong with the political analogy if it makes sense. This one, however, is f-ing ludicrous and, as noted above, completely backwards.
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Post by hoya9797 on Jun 22, 2022 17:26:57 GMT -5
"I'm so excited to be part of the Hoya family. When you think of Georgetown, you think of Coach John Thompson, the tradition and the history and that was one of the reasons it is so appealing to me. To be a part of Coach Ewing's staff - knowing him as a Hall of Famer and a legend, but more importantly, what this program means to him - it makes you want to work just as hard to do some great things in the BIG EAST." - Assistant Coach Pat Baldwin Maybe they’ll win a game in the Big East. It’s been awhile.
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Post by hoya9797 on Jun 21, 2022 15:13:12 GMT -5
Just curious... If Ewing would have stated in the interview that he took responsibility for the team that he put on the floor last season and for the 0-20 outcome, what would the comments have been today? Would they have been any different than those we are getting today? It would not matter the same people that are complaining about Ewing not accepting responsibility for the team debacle last season will continue to decry his coaching. If he were to admit his failings, he would get credit for acting a bit more like a grownup and less like the terrible selfish person he seems to be. But, this is unrelated to his historically bad coaching which will be roasted for as long as he's a coach.
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Post by hoya9797 on Jun 21, 2022 14:31:18 GMT -5
Honestly, much of the work Aminu needs to do is solitary. He needs to develop a much larger vocabulary of shots. He bull-rushed past countless opportunities for lack of a midrange game. And wouldn’t that be easier to do against kids your age than versus men who can dominate you physically? This is one of the most mystifying early entry decisions that I’ve ever witnessed. He should have transferred and seen if a real college coach could have helped him improve.
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Post by hoya9797 on Jun 21, 2022 10:34:53 GMT -5
Right- much better to obsess over every interview and critique everything with an eye toward Monday-morning quarterbacking. Seems like obsessing over the details is what people in the program should be doing. This interview was bad. If I were a coach recruiting against Ewing, I would be showing this to all the players and explaining exactly why playing for a bad, unaccountable coach would make for a very bad time.
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Post by hoya9797 on Jun 21, 2022 9:11:20 GMT -5
My guess is that they think it is a short interview with limited viewership and do not think much of it in any respect. That is the exact lack of attention to detail and ignorance that I’d expect from GU basketball.
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Post by hoya9797 on Jun 21, 2022 8:59:07 GMT -5
I wonder what Ewing and the people at Georgetown thought of that interview. Are they pleased with it or are they horrified by what a mistake it was to let that happen? Ewing probably thinks he looks like a genius but the rest must be concerned.
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Post by hoya9797 on Jun 21, 2022 7:19:11 GMT -5
He played in the NBA for 17 years and has been coaching this team for 5 seasons - you think he hasn't had media training from real sports PR professionals? He's not going to change. Correct. deleted Ewing’s first PR head left because of Ronny, and Mex Carey would have been a big help too. Watch the interviews and it’s not hard to see he’s not prepped with answers to easy questions to prepare for. I don’t think it’s the lack of media training that causes him to be a delusional selfish deleted who refuses or is unable to accept his prominent role in this mess. A PR person may tell him that it would be a good look for him to take some of the heat for this failure under his watch but what indication is there that he’d willingly accept responsibility for something he clearly does not think his his fault? He’s not going to listen to anyone.
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Post by hoya9797 on Jun 20, 2022 20:31:35 GMT -5
Good coaches win close games. To be fair...there were not really many close games. Ewing is living in a bit of an alternate universe.
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Post by hoya9797 on Jun 20, 2022 19:56:54 GMT -5
He evaluated the kids, gave the kids scholarships and coached the kids. The kids went 0-20. It’s the kids’ fault. 😉 Let’s go through some of the spots on our Ewing Interview Bingo Card that we filled during this interview: Blamed the talent level of the team for last year’s misery - Check. Referenced Drake’s “Started From the Bottom” lyrics - Check. Said he’s not a quitter - Check. Preached patience with this year’s squad due to “a lot of new faces” - Check. Said his team was “right in” most of the games last season. A season in which they lost 21 games in a row. - Check. hilltophoops.substack.com/p/patrick-ewing-accept-responsibility-georgetownAlso, there is the “everyone has doubted me my whole life” thing which is hard to square with his #1 recruit, four time all-American, #1 in the draft, and many time all-pro career. He’s been doubted as a coach but that’s been because he’s a terrible coach and he’s given everyone ample reason to doubt him.
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Post by hoya9797 on Jun 20, 2022 19:47:40 GMT -5
Has a coach ever thrown his entire team under bus like Ewing has? It's clear that some of these interviews from his former teammates weren't just sour grapes. He seems to truly believe nothing is ever his fault. That interview is so full of clichés and nonsense. I wonder how his interviews with NBA GMs went. The fact that he’s the Georgetown coach tells you how his NBA interviews went.
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Post by hoya9797 on Jun 20, 2022 12:28:04 GMT -5
I really don't want to fuel the Anti-Ewing crowd, but if I am being honest I got absolutely nothing out of this interview. When I hear opposing coaches do these types of spots you get a better "sales pitch", and walk away feeling a bit more inspired. I get this isn't his strong suit, but if I have to hear him reference the stupid Drake song one more time, I think I am going to throw my phone out of the window. I mean had we not won the BET that year, would have anything else to say. It literally is the only stump speech he has for these types of spots. His inability to think strategically extends beyond just coaching, it includes media relations. He’s very well-rounded.
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Post by hoya9797 on Jun 18, 2022 7:04:30 GMT -5
So then what do YOU do on HoyaTalk? I don't know....maybe discuss the upcoming season. Maybe wait to see how things turn out before considering it a failure. On your job do you only talk about the negative? All day. Over and over? Not even new negative things. The same negative issue over and over.🤷🏾♂️ I get 9797. He isn't a GTown fan. He's a infiltrator/troll whose only purpose is to make our life miserable on this site but others have followed his lead. I understand that things have been bad but isn't the definition of fan to be hopeful of better results? Ewing has done everything possible to put a better product on the court except resign. We know that's not happening. So as fans we should be in watch and see mode...imo But I am and I care about the entire university not just the basketball team. And what Ewing is doing is bringing disgrace on the school and making it a worse place. This APR thing should be the last straw but I guess it will be excused away like everything else he does. The only productive thing he can do now is resign but we know that’s not happening.
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Post by hoya9797 on Jun 17, 2022 9:19:51 GMT -5
This has been true all along. Ewing is convinced he’s the smartest man in the room. We may have to start considering the possibility that Ewing is the smartest man in the room. He receives $4M/year for completely failing at his job - and he keeps that job despite going winless in the conference and embarassing the university off the court. Yeah, it’s true he has been able to exploit a broken system. I guess he’s got a shrewd business sense. His basketball mind leaves a lot to be desired.
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Post by hoya9797 on Jun 17, 2022 9:14:49 GMT -5
This roster can compete with any in the BE. Last season was terrible for all of us. Ewing is staying and I'm good with that. There's positives to that imo which goes far more than wins n losses. Staff and player personnel have been improved. LETS RALLY around this team and go from there. What positives, beyond wins and losses, has Ewing brought? It can’t be the constant turnover, discipline problems, or academic progress so what is it?
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Post by hoya9797 on Jun 17, 2022 9:11:35 GMT -5
We may have to start considering the possibility that Ewing is not a strategic mastermind. We may have to start considering the possibility that Ewing thinks that he is a strategic mastermind. This has been true all along. Ewing is convinced he’s the smartest man in the room.
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Post by hoya9797 on Jun 17, 2022 8:11:37 GMT -5
We may have to start considering the possibility that Ewing is not a strategic mastermind. I don't think Ewing actually gets to pick his assistants. I doubt that’s true. At the very least, I’m sure he has some input.
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Post by hoya9797 on Jun 17, 2022 7:52:48 GMT -5
We may have to start considering the possibility that Ewing is not a strategic mastermind.
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Post by hoya9797 on Jun 17, 2022 7:29:14 GMT -5
From the richly ironic department, our devotion to preserving the legacy of Big John through Patrick has essentially destroyed Big John’s greatest legacy—that of a winning basketball team whose players made exemplary academic progress. We are all the way through the looking glass to an historically losing program whose academic progress stinks out loud. If Ewing still has the deflated basketball in the office, that would be about the most hypocritical thing I can imagine.
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Post by hoya9797 on Jun 16, 2022 19:57:02 GMT -5
Wonder if Ewing established a bit of a relationship with Pat Baldwin Sr. while recruiting his son, and that it helped Ewing feel comfortable bringing him in (and vice versa). While not much success as a HC, he does have a long history as an assistant continually moving up -- usually a good sign. I also like that not only did he coach at Northwestern, but that he was also a player there -- doesn't say much about basketball ability, but he knows what its like being at a great university and the rigors of going through it as a player. As much as players can sometimes be divorced from the reality of the everyday student's experience, it did seem in my time on the hilltop that there were still real expectations on the players in the classroom and on campus that aren't present at every institution. Having coaches who get that and can sell that (presumably) in recruiting seems valuable. Otherwise, curious if Ewing would ever talk about why he chose Baldwin as the 3rd AC over other options. You might need to check the APR scores to see how seriously the basketball team is taking school these days.
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