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Post by hoya9797 on Aug 23, 2022 13:11:01 GMT -5
This would be Ewing's 6th year if he somehow decided to adopt a player. But more than likely with NIL now they could simply create a gofundme site or get a donor to pony up NIL money for the tuition if scholarships aren't available. The issue is not as much how to pay tuition but about how the player counts against the scholarship limits. The rules may have changed but, at one point, a recruited player couldn’t be moved to walk on status to free up a scholarship.
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Post by hoya9797 on Aug 22, 2022 12:59:23 GMT -5
Fetterman isn't exactly Daniel Webster but he's taking advantage of a particular vortex facing the Republicans. Because the base is whipped up to such an extent that they think of the Cheney family as a bunch of lefties (think about that one for a moment), capable Republican candidates in many states are simply not entering races for the sheer fact that it's not worth the effort. Pennsylvania, with a Republican senatorial pedigree of the likes of Hugh Scott, Richard Schewiker, John Heinz, Arlen Specter, et al. is left with fronting a celebrity doctor from NJ to run in the seat. It won't serve the GOP well for Fetterman's first question in the debate to be, "So, Dr. Oz, what exactly have you done for Pennsylvania?" Georgia, with Republicans up and down the ballot, has left a key Senatorial race to a candidate who hasn't lived regularly in the state in 40 years and thus leaves the Democrats facing an untested candidate versus a more seasoned opponent. In the list of reasons why Sen. Herschel Walker is a disaster, not living in Georgia for 40 years is very low on the list.
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Post by hoya9797 on Aug 19, 2022 16:11:36 GMT -5
I agree they weren't that good, and yes, those transfers weren't nearly as egregious as others. In isolation, transfers like Sibley or Berger are the types you do not mind seeing as much, but I still think with development both guys had potential. The Wahab/Akinjo/McClung/Carey type transfers are much more problematic, though. Berger had 3 times the minutes at 15 MPG, yet show only 30% from 3 for SD State (He shot 46% for us) and .5 assists a game. For someone with below average athleticism and an undersized shooting guard, who is just a 3pt specialist this is horrible. Once again the big thing that none of us see is all the practice time that the coaches have to evaluate a player. All we get for these bench guys are a minute here or there on TV during real games (or Kenner when we have Kenner) so it really doesn't make sense for people to act like they know what they are talking about when their data is so much more incomplete compared to the coaching staff. For example with Berger we had 68 minutes of garbage time (and no Kenner) to evaluate him whereas Coach and the staff likely had let's say 5 and a 1/2 months (22 weeks) at 2 hours a day/5 days a week = 10 hours a week = 220 hours = 13,200 minutes. So an armchair fan has 68 minutes of data vs the staff that has 13,200 minutes of data and yet the armchair "fan" thinks he or she knows so much more than the staff on these players. That’s probably a good point about a team coached by someone other than Pat Ewing. All bets are off with this guy and it’s pretty safe to assume that whatever he thinks is right is not.
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Post by hoya9797 on Aug 19, 2022 8:37:13 GMT -5
While we are talking Georgetown and DePaul, Pat Ewing would give his left nut for Joey Meyer’s Win/Loss record. Joey Meyer: 231-158 overall (59.4% winning percentage), 7 NCAA Tournaments in 13 seasons Patrick Ewing: 68-84 overall (44.7% winning percentage), 1 NCAA Tournament in 5 seasons Joey Meyer is demonstrably a far better coach than Patrick Ewing - it's not even close. You could do this all day with pretty much anyone you choose. Pat Ewing is one of the worst coaches in major college basketball history.
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Post by hoya9797 on Aug 18, 2022 10:15:06 GMT -5
The APR requirements will have to go away or be drastically adjusted with the current state of transferring in CBB. Hoyas are are ahead of the curve here but others will catch up (drop to join us) as more kids cut and run as soon as the coach looks at them sideways or doesn’t offer enough playing time or $$$ Sure, things have changed but they have changed for everyone. Maybe the benchmark number has to be adjusted but the important thing is where we are relative to our peers. Being in the bottom 10% is inexcusable or at least would have been prior to Ewing. Claiming that Ewing is ahead of the curve is hilarious.
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Post by hoya9797 on Aug 18, 2022 9:48:21 GMT -5
Except "the heat" is not on. Did the administration provide any comment on what expectations are? Did they lay out what Georgetown basketball should be, or did they spend the last year dodging and ducking any comment? There's no standards of success here - if Ewing wins 5 Big East games this year, everyone chalks that up as an improvement. If no one on the team graduates, if we hit the APR red line (which the program probably does due to the last couple of years), nothing changes. What gets measured gets done, and if you don't care about any of the yard sticks or metrics - and none of the fans or administration do, that's not a formula for success. The guiding purpose of this organization is to employ the son of the guy who was Coach 26 years ago - that's why this Coach was hired, why he was extended, and that's why he continues to have a job. There's no heat here, there's a contract that needs to run it's course, I don't understand why people are pretending that there is urgency or a hot seat. Also : DePaul, last 3 years - 11 BE wins Georgetown, last 3 years - 12 BE wins We Are Georgetown = We Are DePaul Well, you are half right, which is an improvement. Of course, Ewing should have been fired after last year and he wasn't, for reasons that have been discussed ad nauseum. But if Ewing wants to remain coach beyond the current extension, the heat is on. If you were correct, III would still be the coach. Since the APR situation didn’t result in immediate firing, it’s clear that there are no standards for Ewing. He has completely destroyed everything GU basketball used to stand for and the admin is ok with this. I dont get it.
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Post by hoya9797 on Aug 17, 2022 20:24:16 GMT -5
Since my copy and paste did not work, google Trey Gowdy double standard. You will defend this guy to the end. I guess that white supremacy agenda meant a lot to you.
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Post by hoya9797 on Aug 17, 2022 15:57:51 GMT -5
Hey look! There is an open thread for the purpose of discussing all the things you love/detest about Pat, Ronny, Jack, Lee, etc. Would y'all be so kind as to keep said discussion here, instead of putting it in EVERY SINGLE OTHER THREAD? Thanks in advance. I would say the bigger danger is that this board is on the verge of collapse. And thing is that is something the people on here have some control over with their behavior and actions. We can’t even talk about Kenner. Clown World. There was a 22 page thread about Kenner. There was lots of talk about it.
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Post by hoya9797 on Aug 17, 2022 15:48:14 GMT -5
I want to hear more about how Ewing is an above average coach. I can’t fathom how anyone could think that.
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Post by hoya9797 on Aug 17, 2022 7:06:44 GMT -5
www.nj.com/setonhall/2022/08/seton-halls-holloway-wants-to-play-pressure-defense-utilizing-a-rotation-of-nearly-a-dozen-guys.htmlI’m a skill development guy so just getting guys better, getting confidence in their shot but we haven’t really done too much team stuff this summer,” he said. He added: “Guys got better from when they first stepped on campus to when they left so that’s a positive sign.” Seton Hall has another loaded non-conference schedule with games at reigning NCAA champion Kansas and against Iowa, Memphis, Nebraska/Oklahoma, Florida State/Ole Miss/Stanford/Siena and at Rutgers. “It’s ridiculous,” Holloway said. “The schedule is really hard, so we gotta get totally healthy and totally right.” He added: “I’m a little worried about that, but we’ll figure it out.” I was under the impression that new coaches had to clear the schedule of any challenge.
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Post by hoya9797 on Aug 16, 2022 11:19:10 GMT -5
It is amazing how the benchmarks have changed from this - and in academic success - to no benchmarks whatsoever in any category other than coaching celebrity. The thing most people fail to consider when yearning for a coaching change is that things can get worse. That being said I'm not sure any change could do worse now. There is a place somewhere in this nearly infinite universe where there is a coach worse than Pat Ewing. It’s just not on this planet.
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Post by hoya9797 on Aug 16, 2022 8:29:07 GMT -5
Seems like a fair take before preseason even has begun with almost an entirely new team. As long as Pat Ewing is in charge, the default position is that the team is bad. It’s really hard to overcome incompetent leadership.
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Post by hoya9797 on Aug 12, 2022 10:31:22 GMT -5
Yes, not sure why I had November on the mind! You got JTIII’s teams mixed up with Ewing’s teams.
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Post by hoya9797 on Aug 11, 2022 10:30:13 GMT -5
Not enough new coaches.
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Post by hoya9797 on Aug 11, 2022 2:58:17 GMT -5
Given the way TV ratings have declined overall across all types of programming, those are likely records that will never be beaten. This is a nit pick, but difficult to understand why this was posted in "The current state of our Hoya basketball program". The days that are being referred to are long, long gone and getting further in the rear view mirror with every day that Ewing/Ronny still have jobs. If stuck in 80s nostalgia isn’t the current state of the program, I don’t know what is.
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Post by hoya9797 on Aug 11, 2022 0:12:28 GMT -5
Well, here's one Fox talking point, for those unaware. The FBI planted documents in their raid on Mar-a-Lago. The evidence? Hey, who needs evidence? This sounds like something that would only come from people who know the FBI found some very bad things in those boxes.
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Post by hoya9797 on Aug 4, 2022 10:57:30 GMT -5
It still amazes me that Vill keeps winning and getting ranked without any 7 footers. Guards and more guards. In the modern game, the value of 7 footers is less (arguably, by a good margin) than it would have been 20+ years ago. This is why there is little or no place for guys like Roy Hibbert anymore, even in the NBA, whereas in years past, guys like that would have enjoyed longer careers. Thankfully we have such a modern, forward looking coach who lives on the cutting edge.
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Post by hoya9797 on Aug 1, 2022 15:02:49 GMT -5
I suppose you have to say that to keep up this charade but I don’t think you believe this for a second.
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Post by hoya9797 on Aug 1, 2022 14:58:06 GMT -5
Rice was gone. Likewise Aminu. Do you think Holloway was forced out? I am glad there is no real argument that Carey was forced out. So, there were at least two spots for transfers with four spots opening and only two freshmen coming in. There seemed to be some strong indication that Beard and Billingsly were on there way out by their own choice. Obviously transfers happen and have happened for years. So it was clear there were going to be several spots open. What do you think would have happened if all the guys that could have come back decided they wanted to stay for at least another year? Do you really think Ewing would have let that happen?
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Post by hoya9797 on Aug 1, 2022 11:12:26 GMT -5
Long post short I will answer that question on your behalf: no one I'm not avoiding the question. Ewing haters will look at his record as evidence while I look at actual games. There have been very few games in which I saw a coach "outcoach" Ewing. When we had talent we battled against everyone we played. For instance when we had our best team under Ewing we were tied 33-33 at half against Duke. Morko makes a super lazy inbounds pass that gets stolen for a uncontested layup, Duke goes on a run and we lose. That was against the GOAT. I guess Ewing instructed Morko to make that pass. Ewing has outcoached Boeheim. I'm not saying he's the best but I would say he is on par with most P5 coaches. Losing to a more talented team doesn't mean you are a worse coach. The better team is supposed to win. And there have been few times when Ewing had the better team and lost. Most of the really bad loses came the year of the insurrection and last year....also your better coaching usually comes from the lower levels...imo Counterpoint: despite the fact he once coached in a game where his team was tied at half against Duke, the overall record really matters, his terrible recruiting matters, his pathetic player retention matters, the absolutely atrocious APR matters, and his comically inept communication style matters. Together, that is the job of a college basketball coach and nobody is worse than Pat Ewing. Why anyone wants to defend this guy is beyond me.
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