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Post by hoya9797 on Sept 14, 2022 16:29:51 GMT -5
Sure, Ewing is just the unwitting victim of those unfortunate events. Bingo....how do you handle the situation in your field. You finally get a shot at your dream position. Year 2 you get the recruiting class that you want and things are going up. 1 problem your alpha recruit can't stand your beta recruit. Your business is starting to get a little buzz and most night you see the potential but it still rocky. This may be your last and only shot at your dream position. Also you haven't done enough to get equal or better replacements yet. How would you handle the situation? Don't forget that even though there is tension, Ewing's record was getting better each. YR2 was better than YR1 and YR3 was trending to be better than YR2. Georgetown head coach is Ewing’s dream job?
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Post by hoya9797 on Sept 14, 2022 12:44:39 GMT -5
If you’re labeling Willard as Mr. Mediocre, how do you label Pat Ewing? When yall find one coach that went through what Ewing went through with the mutiny and came out of it with a positive record I'll join the mob. No coach survives the Mackinjo situation with a positive record. And please before you say it, no coach is kicking his best player off the team until it is definitely unsalvageable. Poor Pat Ewing, so unlucky.
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Post by hoya9797 on Sept 14, 2022 8:55:46 GMT -5
I don't think we are using the same definition of "mediocre." Merriam Webster: "of moderate or low quality, value, ability, or performance : ORDINARY, SO-SO." Cambridge Dictionary: "ordinary and not very good:" Leitao was not "ordinary" or "so-so." He was really bad/horrible. Mediocre is about .500. Ordinary. Leitao is .467 which is within the ordinary and not very good range. Randy Whitman who was a loser everywhere he is at .406 which is less than ordinary or horrible. .500 at the high major level is nowhere near ordinary.
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Post by hoya9797 on Sept 14, 2022 8:02:44 GMT -5
Holloway is taking every opportunity to promote his program.. They are so lucky that Mr Mediocre himself decided to take his talents to College Park. Honestly Holloway is a huge upgrade over Mr Mediocre. Was great timing for Seton Hall fans. 8-4 vs Pat Ewing
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Post by hoya9797 on Sept 12, 2022 13:41:04 GMT -5
And to be fair to Coach Ewing he also prioritizes NBA leave athletic and length (LeBlanc, Pickett, Maclung, Galen Alexander, Riley, Murray, Q, Bradley e0, Mozone, Heath, Primo, Bass) but last year just happened to be a year where we had below Big East level athleticism across other board (save Aminu). That was his fault for having such a below level athletic team. tre king would’ve helped and he probably should have brought in an army of nba level athletes even if it meant running out of scholarships. But he didn’t and he paid the price He paid no price. Many of the students he brought to GU did but, make no mistake, nothing has happened to Ewing.
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Post by hoya9797 on Sept 11, 2022 8:23:15 GMT -5
Someone threw away the deflated basketball. 0-20 after five years on the job will force you to change your philosophy or have it changed for you. It’s win at all costs now and the program will live or die off Nickelberry’s recruiting. Pat is still Pat. Interested to see how the new lineup fares in the BE. The thing is, it’s not the “deflated basketball” philosophy that got us to this point. Ewing abandoned that almost immediately. It’s clear what the problem is here and it’s not that GU is clinging to an antiquated idea of melding athletics and academics.
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Post by hoya9797 on Sept 9, 2022 11:51:17 GMT -5
It's amazing to me that a kid gets run off the team and people are so committed to being abject homers that they argue it is in his best interest. What amazes me is that “fans” of the team always assume the worst about the coach and the program when anything changes on the roster. Not one person here knows what the conversation between Patrick and Malcolm was like, so nobody knows what actually happened. What has happened over the last five years that has earned Pat Ewing the benefit of the doubt?
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Post by hoya9797 on Sept 8, 2022 16:09:28 GMT -5
Who’s to say that this wasn’t a strategic move by the Hoya staff. Ha, good one.
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Post by hoya9797 on Sept 7, 2022 14:35:46 GMT -5
There was clearly no forethought put into some of these decisions. Patrick Ewing’s MO.
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Post by hoya9797 on Sept 6, 2022 15:06:04 GMT -5
Although I am clear eyed about what needs to be done to have a consistently good Division 1 team and that may mean recruiting over a player, I had not considered that the decisions you highlight, some questionable, required that a scholarship player had to go. And I agree there are redundancies on the current roster that are likely to lead to unhappy players looking to transfer after the season. It’s a perpetual cycle that can only be broken by getting rid of the head coach.
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Post by hoya9797 on Sept 5, 2022 12:27:22 GMT -5
The primary goal of the bball team is to win basketball games, so let’s not get any more knotted up in this student athlete nonsense than we already are. You can’t be Victor Page U and Student Athlete U at the same time. That’s hypocritical. Now, I grant you we are and should prob continue to strive to be somewhere in the middle. But just stop with the Malcolm Wilson indignation. He might well belong on the Hilltop as a student. He never belonged on the hoops team as a bona fide D1 player. Nor did Ig. Let’s all move on. Well said. Its just the Ewing hate... Its down to the bone marrow. No matter what decision he makes whether its the wrong decision or the right one, it won't ever be good enough for some people here. Its the strategy. But, I'm with you. Moving on... Maybe one day, if he ever makes a good decision, we can see if the “Ewing hate” persists.
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Post by hoya9797 on Sept 5, 2022 12:22:08 GMT -5
The primary goal of the bball team is to win basketball games, so let’s not get any more knotted up in this student athlete nonsense than we already are. We kept a coach and the CoS after 0-20. The raison d'etre is not wins. We could also be a losing program that does right by the student athletes, but we're not that either. This should be pinned to the top of this board since it perfectly describes GU basketball in 2022.
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Post by hoya9797 on Sept 2, 2022 21:46:12 GMT -5
Ewing is probably a bad enough coach to think kenner league performance matters.
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Post by hoya9797 on Sept 2, 2022 9:00:28 GMT -5
His profile still lists his Comcast sportsnet gig and NBAtv. I wonder contractually how many side gigs most other major basketball programs chiefs of staff maintain? I'm pretty sure that the chief of staff at Duke, Kansas, Nova, Creighton and all of our other competition has guys with a lot of side gigs. It just makes too much sense not to. Here’s the Duke CoS - no side gigs listed. goduke.com/staff-directory/mikaela-ryan/419
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Post by hoya9797 on Sept 2, 2022 8:16:41 GMT -5
It’s obviously a good thing that Wilson gets to finish at GU, something that it seems he valued quite a bit. It’s nice that at least one of the guys both felt this way and was able to find a way to make it work.
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Post by hoya9797 on Sept 1, 2022 18:25:38 GMT -5
Like the Iraqi minister of propaganda, Theodore is already trying to spin this and is in back pedal mode considering Malcolm is still the team and would get a ring if we were to make some noise. He’s not on the team.
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Post by hoya9797 on Aug 29, 2022 14:10:14 GMT -5
We can definitely surprise to the upside this season. We have some talent on the roster. Maybe get to 8th.
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Post by hoya9797 on Aug 29, 2022 10:51:48 GMT -5
Hoyas predicted 9th in the Big East, 88th in the country by The Hoops Resource: thehoopsresource.com/ncaa-college-basketball-rankings-all-363-teams-in-2022-23/thehoopsresource.com/2022-2023-big-east-college-basketball-preview/"I think you got to like Ewing’s portal work. Getting Wahab to come back really put it over the top for me. He’s one player that had played better under Ewing in the past before he left and Ewing does seem to at least get something out of his bigs. I do not believe Wahab did anything to discredit his ability at Maryland this past season and I had him ranked higher than most. Ewing is still the coach, but this level of talent will bring expectations, and that’s a good thing coming off an 0-fer in the Big East. I think it’s got to be NCAA or bust this season, or he’s likely fired. He fluked his way to an Auto-bid NCAA team once, I think he can get there at large now, possibly with this level of talent. At least he should get this team into the bubble conversation with the talent. Ultimately the talent is there but I don’t have much faith in the coaching." Pretty optimistic.
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Post by hoya9797 on Aug 23, 2022 14:00:29 GMT -5
I’m guessing your understanding of what happened at Creighton is not accurate. I don't think you understand what is going on Double97. Maybe not and, as I said, the rules may have changed. But, fairly recently, it was clear that you can’t just make a scholarship available by moving a recruited player to walk on. I do know that.
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Post by hoya9797 on Aug 23, 2022 13:56:00 GMT -5
The issue is not as much how to pay tuition but about how the player counts against the scholarship limits. The rules may have changed but, at one point, a recruited player couldn’t be moved to walk on status to free up a scholarship. Then how was the Plantation Master McDermott able to pull it off with his son. I’m guessing your understanding of what happened at Creighton is not accurate.
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