krey23
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Post by krey23 on Feb 12, 2007 23:57:46 GMT -5
For anyone who hasn't seen the clip it's on ESPN.com under the game summary. PEII really didn't do anything except bump into him as he walked by. No push, no elbow, just a bump
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CO_Hoya
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Post by CO_Hoya on Feb 12, 2007 23:58:26 GMT -5
I can't believe I'm weighing in on this.
Watching the replay, Alexander is clearly at fault. As prhoya and others have said, he obviously was taking out his frustration on Wallace, and made no effort to see if he was alright or help him up after clipping him from behind (there is a reason that's a 15-yd penalty in football - knee injuries).
The reactions of Ewing and Beilein were both emotional responses to something that took place in front of them. Dumb on both sides, but those things happen.
Alexander, on the other hand, just steamrolled a smaller player because his team was getting embarrassed.
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Post by dajuan on Feb 12, 2007 23:58:33 GMT -5
EDITED West Virginia! They're a bunch of God damned cowards.
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Bando
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Post by Bando on Feb 12, 2007 23:58:46 GMT -5
I was at the game. Here are my views. 1. It was a bump. It probably should have been a T. It was not a "Thug" hit. 2. PE Jr should have cooled it, based on the principle that he may get suspended for a dumb decision for the game against Villanova. This would be Very. Not. Cool. You don't win the battle only to lose the war. 3. Beilein should not have touched PE Jr. Coaches don't touch players, especially based on the principle that coaches are there as teachers. Beilein should be suspended for the next game and fined. Woody Hayes got fired for punching a player. Coaches shouldn't interject themselves into the playing field (except in rare cases to shield a player and defuse the situation in an all-out brawl). 4. My stomach turns when the board basically wants PE Jr to bring out the knives on someone. These are kids. In almost every case, the posters on this board are older than the players - sometimes twice their age or more. In the pro game, I can see the Flyers picking fights and making people bleed. Encouraging someone to hit someone else at this level just seems sort of sick. I'm not saying that the team shouldn't play hard, and that they should play to the limits of what will be called by the refs. But this half-baked mishmash of bushido and honor killings seems insane. 5. Georgetown didn't win in the 80s because they started fights. They won because they played fundamentally sound defense that was aggressive. People played up the fights because it was easier to stereotype the Hoyas as a bunch of thugs. They weren't then and they aren't now. 6. The really sad part about this is that Georgetown destroyed WV. Absolutely eviscerated them. Many people aren't talking about that. That's the pity. Amen.
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FLHoya
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Post by FLHoya on Feb 12, 2007 23:59:37 GMT -5
See, Marquette fans...you could have been our rival if only Tom Crean had touched Patrick Ewing inappropriately.
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prhoya
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Post by prhoya on Feb 13, 2007 0:00:24 GMT -5
6. The really sad part about this is that Georgetown destroyed WV. Absolutely eviscerated them. Many people aren't talking about that. That's the pity. There's another thread for that.
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Post by wildhoya on Feb 13, 2007 0:01:07 GMT -5
Beilein quoting hillary: sports.yahoo.com/ncaab/recap?gid=200702120229"I think Hillary Clinton said it takes a village, right?" said Beilein, explaining his role in the confrontation. "So I was part of a village. I said, 'You don't do that.' That's all it takes." You're not in the village anymore, Mr. Beilein.... welcome to the big city....... hoya saxa
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WVHoyasfan
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Post by WVHoyasfan on Feb 13, 2007 0:02:12 GMT -5
EDITED West Virginia! They're a bunch of God damned cowards. And Ewing isn't??
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Post by dajuan on Feb 13, 2007 0:04:44 GMT -5
Stop it, Patrick Ewing stood up for a teammate. He didn't go over the line. He just did what basketball players do when their teammates get hassled.
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Post by dajuan on Feb 13, 2007 0:06:42 GMT -5
And by the way, how about Beilein's attire tonight. He looked like a 14 year-old going to a Freshman mixer. A pair of khakis, a white shirt, a tie and no blazer?
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TBird41
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Post by TBird41 on Feb 13, 2007 0:08:56 GMT -5
Is it just me, or does everyone have the order wrong? 1. Wallace is undercut by Alexander. Bei-Lame goes nuts, grabs Jessie (?), there's the 5 minute "time out" where teh refs fail to get things under control, allowing WVU the opportunity to add another cheap shot (see #3) 2. Gtown gets the ball, Wallace misses a jumper. 3. WVU brings the ball up the court, hoists up an awful three. Alexander takes a running start from the 3pt. line and slams into Roy's back like he's trying to run block him. The Refs call a foul. PE2 steps up for Roy and gets a T 4. Alexander misses 1 of 2 5. Roy makes his free throws. Here's the play by play: sports.espn.go.com/ncb/playbyplay?gameId=270430046&period=2It starts at the 15:18 mark, and Ewing's foul isn't listed as a Tech.
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Post by Aw My God! on Feb 13, 2007 0:10:03 GMT -5
We need a little more Clubber Lang on this team....
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bubbrubbhoya
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Post by bubbrubbhoya on Feb 13, 2007 0:13:01 GMT -5
See, Marquette fans...you could have been our rival if only Tom Crean had touched Patrick Ewing inappropriately. Infamous Inappropriate Touchers: 1. Mark Foley 2. Marv Albert 3. Bill Clinton 4? John Bee-Line
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Bando
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Post by Bando on Feb 13, 2007 0:13:24 GMT -5
Wow, the WVU scout board has now added homophobia to it's litany of quasi-racist Georgetown taunts. We now have "thug", "ghetto", and "inner city" as euphemisms for the n-word. Way to further sterotypes about your state, WVU fans!
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lichoya68
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Post by lichoya68 on Feb 13, 2007 0:14:09 GMT -5
OK PATRTICK NEEDS TO KEEP COOLER BUT HE WAS DEFENDING LITTLE JON AND JUST BUMPED ALEXANDER ONLY BUMPED NO COACH SHOULD EVER I REPEAT EVER PUSH A PLAYER MAYBE PATRICK COULDA GOT A FOUL OR TECHNICAL BUT BEILEIN SHOULDA BEEN TOSSE FOLKS HE PUSHED A PLAYER A KID A COLLEGE PLAYER BYE BYE IN MY BOOK BUT PATRICK SHOULC HUSTLE AND PLAY HARD BUT NNEDS TO STOP SOME OF THIS STUFF OR THEYLL ALL GO AFTER HIM TO GET HIM GOING GO HOYAS GO PATIRCKS HUSLTE BUT USE HIS HEAD AND TOSS BEILEIN TOSS A COACH WHO PUSHES THE PLAYER THATS BAD BAD BAD [SS BEAT NOVA ;D
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lichoya68
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Post by lichoya68 on Feb 13, 2007 0:15:26 GMT -5
PS THE WEST VA. FAN WHO YELLED OUT GUSUCKS AT THE BEGINNING OF THE NATIONAL ANTHEM ALOT OF CLASS ACTULLY I THINK HE GOT TH EHOYAS GOING ALOT OF CLASS GO HOYAS BEAT NOVA WITH CLASS
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vcjack
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Post by vcjack on Feb 13, 2007 0:15:31 GMT -5
Wow, the WVU scout board has now added homophobia to it's litany of quasi-racist Georgetown taunts. We now have "thug", "ghetto", and "inner city" as euphemisms for the n-word. Way to further sterotypes about your state, WVU fans! Oh yeah, that guy sure is classy, I like how he responds to me by wishing bringing the DC snipers into the picture, hick
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miamihoya
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Post by miamihoya on Feb 13, 2007 0:17:50 GMT -5
I applaud Ewing for defending his point guard...Alexander knew that ball was going out of bounds (or a backcourt violation), and went for jon's legs. I like my teams to have a little passion and intensity. Should every player be like Ewing? No. But every team needs a Ewing to let teams know you wont be pushed around. Beline was out of line in grabbing PEjr, and both should have earned techinicals. At the end of the day, it shouldnt be a big deal. Alexader took a cheap shot at jon, PEjr gave him a shove, beline got upset. Thats all there is to it.
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Post by dajuan on Feb 13, 2007 0:18:06 GMT -5
T Bird, you're missing the key element. Between Wallace getting undercut and Beilein tweaking out is PEJ walking through the guy that undercut PEJ. Then, Beilein gets Editeded and runs about 5 yards onto the court to grab PEJ and scold him. This is when everyone really started to get riled up in the stadium. Then, the referees checked it out on the monitor, saw that no one should be assessed a Technical Foul and play resumed. After this, things had calmed down a bit. The Hoyas miss, Alexander fouls PEJ (not really anywhere near the rebound). PEJ then starts outwardly jawing at Alexander and points at him as he's walking away. This is what they Teed him up for.
Then the whole thing calmed down and Beilein walked around like a moron in khakis and a white button-down for the rest of the night.
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Bando
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Post by Bando on Feb 13, 2007 0:19:17 GMT -5
Wow, the WVU scout board has now added homophobia to it's litany of quasi-racist Georgetown taunts. We now have "thug", "ghetto", and "inner city" as euphemisms for the n-word. Way to further sterotypes about your state, WVU fans! Oh yeah, that guy sure is classy, I like how he responds to me by wishing bringing the DC snipers into the picture, hick The funny thing is that he thinks he's being witty, vcjack. I forgot to mention the many varieties of "DC is a hellhole/ghetto/murder capital/cesspool". Does anyone know if Idiocracy was shot in Morgantown using locals as extras? ;D
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