Oh My!
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Post by Oh My! on Nov 30, 2006 15:15:33 GMT -5
*white flag* Good points here.
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bmartin
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Post by bmartin on Nov 30, 2006 16:25:53 GMT -5
You guys are all forgetting that most of Jeff's big scoring spurts in the past two seasons were when he was playing center with Roy on the bench. Only a few times last season did he and Roy excel in the same game. He scores when he gets the ball at the elbow with a big slow guy guarding him. He does not try to drive on smaller, quicker defenders. Last year when Roy went to the bench, D.J. and Jeff played off each other. A lot of Jeff's assists were to D.J. and vice versa.
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Locker
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Post by Locker on Nov 30, 2006 16:34:29 GMT -5
I'm confused. Do some posters no longer consider JTIII their home boy?
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Post by ColumbiaHeightsHoya on Nov 30, 2006 16:40:42 GMT -5
I think four posts in a row in the same thread officially DQ's you. NO EFFORT, YOUR OUT ON STRIKES BIG GUY!!!
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SFHoya99
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Post by SFHoya99 on Nov 30, 2006 16:42:33 GMT -5
I think four posts in a row in the same thread officially DQ's you. NO EFFORT, YOUR OUT ON STRIKES BIG GUY!!! Eh, they were all foul tips. It's still 0-2.
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Big Dog
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Post by Big Dog on Nov 30, 2006 16:43:50 GMT -5
You guys are all forgetting that most of Jeff's big scoring spurts in the past two seasons were when he was playing center with Roy on the bench. Only a few times last season did he and Roy excel in the same game. He scores when he gets the ball at the elbow with a big slow guy guarding him. He does not try to drive on smaller, quicker defenders. Last year when Roy went to the bench, D.J. and Jeff played off each other. A lot of Jeff's assists were to D.J. and vice versa. This is a terrific insight that I think many, many people have forgotten. Until tournament time, it was virtually impossible to get Green and Hibbs going well at the same time, and even then it seems like that only happened in the OSU game. How many minutes did Hibbert get against Duke last year? Virtually none. Perhaps part of the problem (seriously) is that Hibbert is getting too many minutes. Green would prefer to play closer to the basket, and Hibbert is in any case a defensive liability who starts sucking air awfully quickly.
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Big Dog
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Post by Big Dog on Nov 30, 2006 16:46:10 GMT -5
Re-reading my own post only makes me feel more pessimistic about the course of this season. Of course Hibbert is going to continue to get major minutes because that's just the way things go. Even if we were better off limiting Hibbert to 20 minutes a game, its hard to see JTIII keeping a 7'2" NBA prospect off the floor that much. Which means there may be no solution.
At a minimum, I guess I'd like to see JTIII go more regularly to a smaller lineup.
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Dhall
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Post by Dhall on Nov 30, 2006 17:12:26 GMT -5
The previous few posts may be onto something. It was the second half last night and maybe a little too late, but for a few minutes the lineup was starters minus Hibbert plus Macklin. I don't recall each sequence, but I do seem to remember thinking that our offensive "flow" was better with Macklin in there and he does provide some rebounding (though still not a great defensive player) and can get out on the break. It's definitely different than dropping in Owens for Hibbert, but maybe going with Wallace, Sapp, Summers/Egerson, Green and Macklin can be an interesting non-Roy lineup.
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