hoyaLS05
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Post by hoyaLS05 on Nov 11, 2006 19:10:36 GMT -5
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bmartin
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Post by bmartin on Nov 11, 2006 21:05:26 GMT -5
The team really needs to work on making entry passes to Hibbert. Hartford packed in the zone and left the threes open. Almost everyone would rather get into a 3-point shooting contest with Georgetown.
Still, Roy was working to get position but Wallace was the only player who threw entry passes quickly and accurately. The other guys did not see the move coming, waited too late and either telegraphed the pass, passed it into a double team, or missed the opportunity entirely and passed the ball around the perimeter. There were also late passes to Jeff when he tried to work in the middle of the zone.
Some of those threes you have to take, but the first look on the wing should be for a pass to the low post.
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Post by StPetersburgHoya (Inactive) on Nov 11, 2006 21:34:47 GMT -5
No one has said it yet - but I would like to congratulate J Wall on a very solid game. I think he can step up for us throughout the season.
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Post by CO_Hoya on Nov 11, 2006 21:36:09 GMT -5
So, for those who saw both, how does this game against Hartford [[ u]box score[/u][/color]] compare last year's against JMU [[ u]box score[/u][/color]] (yes, I know that JMU was a road game)? JMU post game discussion from last year: link
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Post by StPetersburgHoya (Inactive) on Nov 11, 2006 21:47:24 GMT -5
Last year's game against JMU is a pretty good comparison in the sense that Hartford clearly was up for the game and watned to come oout and be world-beaters. It took a late run to put them away as well.
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Post by FLHoya on Nov 11, 2006 22:16:55 GMT -5
Last year's game against JMU is a pretty good comparison in the sense that Hartford clearly was up for the game and watned to come oout and be world-beaters. It took a late run to put them away as well. Yeah but can't you say that about any team for a low-major conference (or in JMU's case a mid-major conference) that plays a major-conference, ESPECIALLY Top 10 school? The theme coming out of the JMU game from those who attended in person was that JMU and their fans treated this as their home game of the century--true story, I saw a kid wearing a "Beat the Hoyas" shirt on the Metro downtown this summer and tried to buy it off of him. Hartford wasn't playing in front of a super-charged crowd (if we'd played in CT I'd buy that). Rather, they're actually despite their preseason buzz or lack thereof a pretty well coached team who ran their offense and defense to a very high level of proficiency today and caught us not doing the same with ours. I'll be interested to see how they do the rest of the season, but I think they'll perform better than last in the AE Conference and show this game to be less of a fluke (from their perspective).
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Post by DanMcQ on Nov 11, 2006 22:35:23 GMT -5
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Post by lichoya68 on Nov 11, 2006 22:51:07 GMT -5
need to stepit up ALOT vs vandy they stil have most of the three point shooters that beat us last year at home and were playing there need to step it up alot the d the hustle the offense going to the hoop go hoyas one by one next one pretty big ;D ;D ;D
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Post by hoya73 on Nov 11, 2006 23:54:53 GMT -5
Well, I'd love to be able to comment on the game but I'll have to go for a question instead: So I try to listen to the game through the webcast and it tells me that the feed is unavailable outside the U.S. unless I am a member of the armed forces stationed abroad. Any suggestions? ... Join the Air Force or join the Corps.
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Post by StPetersburgHoya (Inactive) on Nov 11, 2006 23:58:54 GMT -5
Well, I'd love to be able to comment on the game but I'll have to go for a question instead: So I try to listen to the game through the webcast and it tells me that the feed is unavailable outside the U.S. unless I am a member of the armed forces stationed abroad. Any suggestions? ... Join the Air Force or join the Corps. Or you could get something to mask your ip address.
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Post by Nevada Hoya on Nov 12, 2006 0:03:40 GMT -5
The freshman "beat-ups"?
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Post by StPetersburgHoya (Inactive) on Nov 12, 2006 0:08:14 GMT -5
That's what the America East board thinks of us.
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Post by millerj9 on Nov 12, 2006 0:13:44 GMT -5
That's what the America East board thinks of us. link?
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Post by StPetersburgHoya (Inactive) on Nov 12, 2006 0:19:20 GMT -5
That's what the America East board thinks of us. link? LINK
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Post by DanMcQ on Nov 12, 2006 2:07:13 GMT -5
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Post by kghoya on Nov 12, 2006 2:18:42 GMT -5
this was the first home game i have missed since i became a season ticket holder 4 years ago after college so i dont know exactly what happened...but let me just say that i was sick to my stomach when i saw the score flash on the bottom of espn while i was out at a bar after the notre dame air force game in colorado springs
i would expect the same from crawford all year long...the guy is a bricklayer...i know how some people documented his prolific shooting touch over the summer, but give me a break
sapp and wallace need to step it up for this team to have a chance against the better teams on the schedule
ashanti cook will look better and better all year long...he was straight money at the end of the last year which has resulted in much of this current hype
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Post by RDF on Nov 12, 2006 2:49:36 GMT -5
I think the key to this team is how III approaches the season--he's in love with Tyler Crawford and while the guy deserves a few games to show his worth--he can't stick with someone if they keep missing shots--I don't care what they shoot in practice, it's about doing it at GAME time that matters.
Wasn't able to see this game but will see the Vandy game and looking forward to see the more "uptempo" version of offense. If you aren't a great shooting team, might as well get out and try to get some cheap hoops--and for all of the talk of "who is going to step up" why did it NOT surprise me that Jessie Sapp was involved in 2 game changing plays?? The guy is money--and does more then Ashanti Cook ever could--because Sapp is an all around player where Cook was a fine offensive player. Sapp can get a board, steal, assist, defensive stop, and has hit 2 of the biggest shots of Hoyas season last year--the go ahead 3 against Marquette in BET and go ahead 3 against UNI in 1st round. He's just a kid that doesn't shy from big moments and when others get tight.
From the description of what others provided, I'll just reiterate one major point that has to change--ROY HAS TO DUNK THE BALL WHEN HE CAN---he's too experienced and big to be throwing up weak crap around the tin--DUNK THE BALL!!!
As for Crawford--as I said, he needs more games to show what he can do--but III's been talking of playing him more for a while now and that is great--but he better also monitor the production because you can't have a guy playing because you like him--he's got to play because he makes the team better. And while he did collect some boards--he did so against a very small team--I'll take my chances that Summers or PE JR can get some boards as opponents get better and Dajuan can play--and shoot so he'll be a major factor by season's end.
GOOD NEWS
1. Liked hearing Hoyas were more uptempo and played more people
2. Jessie Sapp and Marc Egerson stepping up
3. Jeff and Roy still posting good numbers despite not their best performances and much better FT shooting from Jeff.
BAD NEWS
1. Roy not dunking/being aggressive--this isn't acceptable
2. Rivers wilting under pressure defense
3. Turnovers
4. Not enough stops--defense should be this teams's strength with all of the size and athleticism added and closing out on 3 pt shooters and forcing them to drive into our size should be a help-but sounds like we allowed Hartford to play their game and dictate to us how we'll play.
Always glad to get a "W" though and looking forward to seeing the guys play this Wednesday against a well coached and talented Vandy team.
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Post by JohnJacquesLayup on Nov 12, 2006 8:07:49 GMT -5
Didn't see/hear the game, but here's a couple things I found interesting:
- Jeff Green's FT's: 7/8 from the line. If this is indicative of a real improvement, it'll be huge for us in BE play.
- The rotation: I know it's the first game, but I liked seeing Rivers, Summers, and Ewing all get about 10 minutes. Sapp also got about 20 which is expected.
- The "who will be the first freshmen (or transfer) to score" prediciton is still up for grabs.
- Give Tyler some time in a completely new role. There's a lot of pressure on him and I think he's just shaking the jitters / dusting off the cobwebs / (insert cliche here).
- Unlike a lot of people here, I was pleased to see to the final score pop up on the cell phone yesterday. A lot of good teams drop early games to horrific opponents each year before conference play, and yesterday could have been that way for us. It wasn't, so I'm happy.
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Post by MassHoya on Nov 12, 2006 9:19:08 GMT -5
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Post by Filo on Nov 12, 2006 9:28:17 GMT -5
That's what the America East board thinks of us. Based on this one game, tehy are right, so i have no problems with that. The good thing is, it was only one game. Let's see how this shakes out over the course of the next few games. Hopefully, the jitters are now out of the system. I would like to see more mid-range jumpers than always resorting to the 3 though.
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