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Post by hoyatables on Nov 12, 2006 10:59:14 GMT -5
I took the D6 to the game this morning and it worked extremely well. Drops you off a little over a block away opn 7th street and takes about 20 minutes. I plan to do this every game. D6 rocks. And if you Metro up to Dupont you can also pick up the D1 and 2 (and 3 I think). They'll drop you off at 35th and Reservoir. I liked the Hoya Blue cheer sheets -- you guys should include "options for getting home" on them to further educate students on transit options. Someone should contact WMATA or DDOT -- both would be very happy to improve the connections and information-sharing with the University.
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Post by StPetersburgHoya (Inactive) on Nov 12, 2006 16:47:45 GMT -5
I think one of the main problems with the system is that Metro didn't run any additional trains. If you have rush hour numbers of passengers going in one direction and weekend service that's just asking for problems. I like the comparison to Nationals games - except for the fact that at Nationals games they have people on an intercom talking to the people going to the game, more trains, and lots of DC Metro and Transit Police presence - I took the yellow line back to Crystal City two hours after the game so I can't say that this did or did not happen, but from what I can infer from these posts it sounds like WMATA was not prepared for the flow of passengers.
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Post by TBird41 on Nov 12, 2006 18:55:50 GMT -5
Just a question for some of older Hoyatalkers--how did students get to the games in Landover in 1984/1985, 1989, etc? And how long did it take?
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Post by StPetersburgHoya (Inactive) on Nov 12, 2006 19:22:32 GMT -5
I am interested in how YB got to the game. How long does it take a horse and buggy to get to DC from Spottsylvania?
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Post by LizziebethHoya on Nov 12, 2006 20:14:04 GMT -5
Students whine way too much... And you know, maybe you should just explore the city post game, especially on a beautiful day like today. The A-Team took in a postgame drink, then walked about 3 miles to Adams Morgan for some evening beverages. And then I decided to take the long way home and walk from Adams Morgan to Courthouse (probably, what, five miles?). I don't know what is more disheartening, listening to you whine about coming back from Verizon by *gasp* the public transportation the rest of the city somehow seems to use everyday, or watching you all sit in your seats while the Hoyas held onto a slim lead. All I am saying is that students should get out there and explore this city that so many of them said was "the reason I want to go to Georgetown." Some people just want to go watch a damn basketball game. If they wanted to go to a museum or a restaurant before and after games, they would, you don't have to tell them. When you go to 15 games a year, you can't turn every game into an all-day event. And don't criticize the student fans. I'm tired of hearing some of the alumni complain about how much better fans they were. You weren't. The student body cares just as much about basketball now as it ever has. Exactly. All we're trying to say is that we are Georgetown University students who want to find the quickest and easiest way to get to and from the game so we can cheer our hearts out for our hoyas without having to sacrifice too much else. I applaud the AD for trying to find the best way for students to get to and from the game....but this system in its current form is not that best way.
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Post by HoyaSinceBirth on Nov 12, 2006 21:00:10 GMT -5
i had assumed hoyatables was talking about the non student fans. It's stupid to criticize the student fans. Who along with the YA and a smattering of older alums are the only ones who cheer much less stand.
There were a lot of empty seats in the HHC seats and i spied a hartford family in the middle of the HHC section 101 i think. NOT COOL!
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Post by hoyatables on Nov 12, 2006 21:34:17 GMT -5
Just a question for some of older Hoyatalkers--how did students get to the games in Landover in 1984/1985, 1989, etc? And how long did it take? Got there by bus. Usually took anywhere from 60 minutes to 90 minutes to get there, particularly for night games. Trip home was usually 45 minutes. In the one plus year that we used the US Air Arena that I was there, I don't think we once took the same route out there and back. It does sound like the system needs improvement--given that this was the first attempt at the new system, that is no surprise. Connections from and extra rail service to both Dupont and Rosslyn on the administration/WMATA ends, and perhaps a little student education on the virtues of a little patience as well. Still, I am a firm believer that Metro is far and away the best option for all fans, including students. Particularly for evening games, when downtown traffic will be a reality, the Metro will be a much more efficient option. Under the old system, the only solution would have been more buses, and I do believe that in an urban environment with an established public transit system that regularly handles sold-out crowds from that same arena, there's no reason to believe that Metro will not work just as well. And sorry if the words about students sitting seemed harsh -- on the whole, it was a very enthusiastic crowd. Hoya Blue did a wonderful job of getting cheer sheets and cheers going. I never said I was a "better" fan than any of you -- that's a stupid and meaningless argument. My comment was on the fact that a large number of students were sitting and/or being quiet in the waning minutes of an uncomfortably close game.
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Post by hoyatables on Nov 12, 2006 21:35:40 GMT -5
Wow, eight pages and no discussion of Charlie Daniels OR ballroom dancing.
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Post by Suzhoya93 on Nov 12, 2006 21:58:01 GMT -5
Wow, eight pages and no discussion of Charlie Daniels OR ballroom dancing. Did I hear someone say Ballroom Dancing? ;D To stay back on track, not only did it take 45 minutes each way to the Cap Centre if we were lucky (for the old timers on the board), we also ran the very real risk that our bus driver would get lost in Southeast on the way there. I was on more than one bus that stopped at a shady corner liquor store asking for directions to the Beltway. (Thankfully, I was in the band, so I was already buzzed at that point and not nearly as nervous as I should have been.) As someone else pointed out, there are many, many routes to take besides the obvious. And since I don't metro much anymore (We took the baby yesterday and parked at Verizon), I'll give up my secret: from MCI (Verizon, whatever), walk to Federal Triangle metro. From there, you can get on blue/orange going towards metro center and get a seat. For those going to Dupont, just walk the few blocks to whatever the red station is near the DC Courthouse - can't believe I'm blanking on the name. It'll take a few minutes, but it sure beats the heck out of waiting on a jam-packed platform. And, the students should be relieved that they CAN walk back to campus if necessary -- try that from the Cap Centre! ![;)](//storage.proboards.com/forum/images/smiley/wink.png)
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Post by hoyatables on Nov 13, 2006 0:04:19 GMT -5
Judiciary Square. Two entrances, one in front of the National Building Museum at F Street, and another at 4th and D Streets in front of the DC government building. The NBM entrance is closest, and is only two blocks east of the Phone Booth.
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Post by TBird41 on Nov 13, 2006 0:12:19 GMT -5
Judiciary Square. Two entrances, one in front of the National Building Museum at F Street, and another at 4th and D Streets in front of the DC government building. The NBM entrance is closest, and is only two blocks east of the Phone Booth. TWO WHOLE BLOCKS!?!?!?! Who has time for that? Honestly. ![::)](//storage.proboards.com/forum/images/smiley/eyesroll.png)
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Post by CAHoya07 on Nov 13, 2006 9:54:00 GMT -5
I think this thread needs some wisdom from Sacha Baron Cohen, aka Borat. Lyrics from this little ditty are slightly adapted to fit our situation. Hopefully this fits the "constructive solution" we were all taking about:
In my college there is problem And that problem is transport It take very very long Because Metro very slow
Throw transport down the well So my college can be free (so my college can be free) We must make travel easy And then we'll have a big party.
I'm not even gonna touch the second verse...
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Post by nodak89 on Nov 13, 2006 12:18:15 GMT -5
Just a question for some of older Hoyatalkers--how did students get to the games in Landover in 1984/1985, 1989, etc? And how long did it take? We rode the bus uphill, both ways, in driving snow. It was a 40 minute ride. And we liked it that way.
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Post by Boz on Nov 13, 2006 13:06:35 GMT -5
Just a question for some of older Hoyatalkers--how did students get to the games in Landover in 1984/1985, 1989, etc? And how long did it take? We rode the bus uphill, both ways, in driving snow. It was a 40 minute ride. And we liked it that way. My thoughts exactly. Crotchety old geezers unite!!! ;D ;D In all seriousness though, those Cap Center bus trips were abyssmal. Abyssmal and eternal. The number of times they broke down or got lost (yes, got lost!) definitely outnumbered the times they went without incident. Course, my memory ain't what it used to be. . . . On Saturday, I notcied several incidents of Hoya students holding friends back when there were others (esp. elderly or little kids) trying to get on off a train/escalator. Good for you. And yes, I also noticed some of the general bad behavior associated with large crowds (drunk or sober), and saw a few kids get knocked aside. Unintentional I am sure, just try to be more careful. Remember, you don't go to UMCP. Those gray shirts say Georgetown on them. Keep that in mind and everything will be fine. And obviously, keep up the enthusiasm. Gonna' go set by the porch a spell now. Maybe whittle me a new pipe.
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Post by YB on Nov 13, 2006 13:51:07 GMT -5
One thought students- I heard that the U could not find a bus company with enough busses to take all student season tix holders to the game. Just not possible.
Thus, the current incarnation was developed. And it is not a bad incarnation.
I don't think student presence or enthusiasm was lacking during the game, I don't think metro held anyone back. It's a good system and FAR more efficient than the old busses to Landover during my undergrad years. So get used to this, I don't think it's changing unless we see a HUGE drop in student season tix next year.
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Post by miamihoya on Nov 13, 2006 16:26:10 GMT -5
I think this thread needs some wisdom from Sacha Baron Cohen, aka Borat. Lyrics from this little ditty are slightly adapted to fit our situation. Hopefully this fits the "constructive solution" we were all taking about: In my college there is problem And that problem is transport It take very very long Because Metro very slow Throw transport down the well So my college can be free (so my college can be free) We must make travel easy And then we'll have a big party. I'm not even gonna touch the second verse... haha...best solution i have heard yet
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Post by JB5 on Nov 13, 2006 16:45:38 GMT -5
Another observation from a geezer who can still remember the Cap Centre days: if you missed the buses (or forgot to pick up the stupid bus ticket) there was not another good option to get to the game. The Cap Centre was in the middle of nowhere and the local cops tended to frown on attempts to walk along the access roads from the metro. For night games, you had to figure on at least an hour to get there. MCI/Verizon is a big improvement.
I don't know how the new arrangements will affect things, but I've done well walking (rapidly) to metro center after the games and often getting on a train before those who go to Gallery Place and transfer.
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Post by bridget311 on Nov 13, 2006 17:22:24 GMT -5
In my college there is problem And that problem is transport It take very very long Because Metro very slow Throw transport down the well So my college can be free (so my college can be free) We must make travel easy And then we'll have a big party. Very nice! Great success!
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Post by HoyaSinceBirth on Dec 10, 2006 23:59:57 GMT -5
well i guess were doing this here now
but there was a sheet in the package telling you to pick up the metro tickets for the first semester at McDonough. there were 5 metro tickets one for each of the 5 verizon games that were this semester. i don't know if they forgot to put a card in for you. But everyone should've recieved enough cards for this semesters games. You're supposed to get more metro cards for next semester.
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Post by hoyaLS05 on Dec 11, 2006 0:00:44 GMT -5
A response to the posts on the recently-locked transportation thread:
I'm nearly certain it was the athletic department that changed the transportation and not Hoya Blue. See GUHoyas.com or thehoya.com for a press release/article on the new transportation.
The way the metro card system was set up worked out so that first semester metro cards were to be distributed with season ticket packages, provided you DID NOT pick up your tickets on the first day. They weren't ready yet at that point, so for the many people that got their tickets on the first day, a second trip to McDonough was necessary to get your card. HOWEVER, when many of us who got our tickets early returned for the first semester metro cards, they were out and I was told that they likely would not be getting any more.
Sure prhoya, the 2.70 roundtrip is no big deal. I think most students can afford it. But that does not make it fair. The transportation situation this season certainly got more difficult (maybe necessarily so, but thats not the point here), and for the AD not to live up to the promises it did make is not fair.
If you are going to take away buses to Verizon Center in favor of busses to the metro and complimentary metro cards, at least follow through.
Likely, it was poor planning but nothing malicious, and when second semester metro cards are distributed, I'd bet they do a better job, but the fact remains that they did do a poor job this time around.
As for taking the metro to the games in a general sense, I realize that it probably makes more sense for the athletic department and that it was a necessary change, but it DOES take longer and it is LESS convenient. Has it negatively affected attendance? Not really sure. I think a lot of the recent games were going to be poorly attended regardless because of the end of semester push, but the transportation arrangements certainly didn't encourage attendance (not sure if thats even possible). Compared to recent years, this system is definitely worse, but its hardly the end of the world.
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