JimmyHoya
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Post by JimmyHoya on Nov 7, 2006 23:41:20 GMT -5
Oh I have. I'm not using the retarded metro system and I'm going to find kids to come with me so my cab is cheaper.
And it's my God-given right to complain and procrastinate from my homework.
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JimmyHoya
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Post by JimmyHoya on Nov 7, 2006 23:44:57 GMT -5
How can you improve the new process? Build a special bridge across the Potomac? A tunnel to Dupont? Maybe the busses have that button in their gear shifter like in the Shell commercials and we'll cruise to the game!!
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hoyatables
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Post by hoyatables on Nov 8, 2006 10:19:36 GMT -5
Oh I have. I'm not using the retarded metro system and I'm going to find kids to come with me so my cab is cheaper. And it's my God-given right to complain and procrastinate from my homework. Wow. You know what, if these Georgetown students can't find it in themselves to get out of bed and get on the Metro to go see a Top Ten men's basketball team, they don't deserve to see them. I mean, come ON. Millions of people take Metro every day and find it to be convenient, cheap, and clean. I didn't realize that Georgetown students were now too good for Metro.
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Post by SaxaCD on Nov 8, 2006 10:24:30 GMT -5
Hell, walking isn't really all that difficult, either.
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Post by williambraskyiii on Nov 8, 2006 10:33:46 GMT -5
dude Jimmy, you answered your own question. take a friggin' cab, end of discussion. Even in the prehistoric times at the end of the 20th century we had the buses and we had the metro, but we took cabs because my friends were all the laziest drunks in the world. we would toss back some of grandpa's old cough medicine, stroll down to M Street or Wiscy and then hail a cab the three, four or 15 of us...so stop bitching about spending $3 per cab to Verizon as for the rest of you, i mean you guys are dating yourselves...talking about WALKING to Verizon? ![???](//storage.proboards.com/forum/images/smiley/huh.png) Or the glorious benefits of Metro? Maybe my group of friends were out of hte ordinary, but i don't think so - and we would have NEVER EVER walked to Verizon. and the Metro seemed like a lot of work too. THe point is, having this option is a fantastic move by the AD for all those who want to take advantage of it - which will be many people if it is sufficiently publicized - whiny bitches like jimmy can take cabs...i can't believe this is still being debated. In our country, we have problem...and that problem...is transport.
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Post by HoyaSinceBirth on Nov 8, 2006 11:06:30 GMT -5
brasky seems to be the only one who gets it.
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Post by Bando on Nov 8, 2006 13:05:37 GMT -5
Oh I have. I'm not using the retarded metro system and I'm going to find kids to come with me so my cab is cheaper. And it's my God-given right to complain and procrastinate from my homework. How is the Metro system retarded? Because it doesn't pick up right in front of your house? I think the students complaining in this thread are really underestimating their fellow students. They seem to think that having made a sizeable investment (for a college student) in season tickets, students will not go to games unless practically carried there. That's ridiculous. Also ridiculous is the notion that student fans only fit into two catergories: either they are die-hards that post here and join Hoya Blue or they are total bandwagoneers who need to be nearly bribed to go to a game. I would venture that most student fans are somewhere in between and are willing to support and follow a winning team each game. Stop selling your brethren so short. The students paid for tickets. They'll go to the games. They're not the sterotype of complete laziness that you're feeding us.
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Post by heartofahoya on Nov 8, 2006 14:59:42 GMT -5
To me, the new system seems much more of a time issue than a convenience issue. Students at Georgetown are busy-- spending an additional hour on transportation alone is alot, given a typical Georgetown student's daily schedule.
The steady decline in my grades Junior and Senior year certainly indicates that my priorities were straight (basketball/HB or death!!!!!!), but at least acknowledge that the extra time this will take students is inconvenient and it will make time management a little more challenging.
That said, I don't have a happy alternative to accomodate 50 busses (other than plowing down GW's "campus" for use as a closer parking lot), so I will shut up now. I make big bucks now and I will be at Fado enjoying (a little) cider before and (a lot) of beer after games.
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Post by TBird41 on Nov 8, 2006 15:03:01 GMT -5
To me, the new system seems much more of a time issue than a convenience issue. Students at Georgetown are busy-- spending an additional hour on transportation alone is alot, given a typical Georgetown student's daily schedule. The steady decline in my grades Junior and Senior year certainly indicates that my priorities were straight (basketball/HB or death!!!!!!), but at least acknowledge that the extra time this will take students is inconvenient and it will make time management a little more challenging. That said, I don't have a happy alternative to accomodate 50 busses (other than plowing down GW's "campus" for use as a closer parking lot), so I will shut up now. I make big bucks now and I will be at Fado enjoying (a little) cider before and (a lot) of beer after games. I was under the impression your priorities went 1) Bball/Hoya Blue 2) Tombs/drinking 3) finding a job 4) everything else in the world 5) school work otherwise known as you havnig your priorities straight!
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Post by hoyaLS05 on Nov 8, 2006 15:08:24 GMT -5
To me, the new system seems much more of a time issue than a convenience issue. Students at Georgetown are busy-- spending an additional hour on transportation alone is alot, given a typical Georgetown student's daily schedule. I think this is a good point. It will take more time, an hour is a good estimate, of transportation for games. That is an hour that a lot of students won't want to spend to see the Hoyas beat up a James Madison or a Ball State on a school night. Trash these kids all you want, but just realize that it is probably going to be an issue. I will obviously still go to these games, but that doesn't mean I think this new transpo system will be efficient nor will I be perfectly OK with losing that hour. Don't know if others will tolerate it enough to go to all of our home games. Also, just to be clear, I think a lot of the students on here are only making this point about the crappier games. I don't think it will be an issue against Pittsburgh or Connecticut, for example.
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hoyaboy1
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Post by hoyaboy1 on Nov 8, 2006 15:29:04 GMT -5
How exactly do you think bus-metro is 30 minutes slower each way than a bus straight to the game?
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Post by Gold Hoya on Nov 8, 2006 16:15:05 GMT -5
The students paid for tickets. They'll go to the games. You students WILL fall victim to the sunk-cost fallacy! ;D A Top 10 basketball team is a powerful incentive. All season ticket buyers have been convinced that this is THE thing to do. They will go to the games, just like people trekked to The Cellar (or whatever the name of that place was) for $5 Friday evening all-you-can-drink when that was the thing to do for a few months in 1997.
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Post by YB on Nov 8, 2006 16:33:07 GMT -5
I agree- this is a good thing. Rolling out of bed to get on a HS bus vs getting on a Metro bus should not be very different. Time-wise it will not be substantially different, maybe quicker on the return.
Students of GU, you are in DC. Get out and enjoy it at least!! A top 10 team and great atmosphere should indeed be a sufficient carrot.
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Post by CAHoya07 on Nov 8, 2006 16:41:23 GMT -5
I don't think it will take an hour to get to Verizon via shuttle and Metro. My guess is it will still take about 30 minutes, 45 tops. In fact, on weeknight games, the buses will take you to the Dupont Circle station, so as to avoid traffic on the Key Bridge to Rosslyn. I think the Athletic Department took all of this account when constructing this system, and I applaud them for it.
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Post by SFHoya99 on Nov 8, 2006 16:41:48 GMT -5
Ray, people will come Ray. They'll come to Verizon for reasons they can't even fathom. They'll turn up in Chinatown not knowing for sure why they're doing it. They'll arrive at the doors as innocent as children, longing for 1984. Of course, we won't mind if you look around, you'll say. It's only $50 per person. They'll pass over the money without even thinking about it: for it is money they have and peace they lack. And they'll walk out to the seats; sit inside on a chilly winter day. They'll find they have reserved seats somewhere along one of the baselines, where they sat when they were children and cheered their heroes. And they'll watch the game and it'll be as if they dipped themselves in magic waters. The memories will be so thick they'll have to brush them away from their faces. People will come Ray. The one constant through all the years, Ray, has been Hoyas basketball. America has rolled by like an army of steamrollers. It has been erased like a blackboard, rebuilt and erased again. But Hoya Paranoia has marked the time. This court, this game: it's a part of our past, Ray. It reminds of us of all that once was good and will be again. Oh... people will come Ray. People will most definitely come.
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Post by williambraskyiii on Nov 8, 2006 17:10:09 GMT -5
<commence slow clap> well done SFHoya99, well done. Ray, people will come Ray. They'll come to Verizon for reasons they can't even fathom. They'll turn up in Chinatown not knowing for sure why they're doing it. They'll arrive at the doors as innocent as children, longing for 1984. Of course, we won't mind if you look around, you'll say. It's only $50 per person. They'll pass over the money without even thinking about it: for it is money they have and peace they lack. And they'll walk out to the seats; sit inside on a chilly winter day. They'll find they have reserved seats somewhere along one of the baselines, where they sat when they were children and cheered their heroes. And they'll watch the game and it'll be as if they dipped themselves in magic waters. The memories will be so thick they'll have to brush them away from their faces. People will come Ray. The one constant through all the years, Ray, has been Hoyas basketball. America has rolled by like an army of steamrollers. It has been erased like a blackboard, rebuilt and erased again. But Hoya Paranoia has marked the time. This court, this game: it's a part of our past, Ray. It reminds of us of all that once was good and will be again. Oh... people will come Ray. People will most definitely come.
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Post by FLHoya on Nov 8, 2006 17:55:37 GMT -5
To me, the new system seems much more of a time issue than a convenience issue. Students at Georgetown are busy-- spending an additional hour on transportation alone is alot, given a typical Georgetown student's daily schedule. I think this is a good point. It will take more time, an hour is a good estimate, of transportation for games. That is an hour that a lot of students won't want to spend to see the Hoyas beat up a James Madison or a Ball State on a school night. Trash these kids all you want, but just realize that it is probably going to be an issue. I will obviously still go to these games, but that doesn't mean I think this new transpo system will be efficient nor will I be perfectly OK with losing that hour. Don't know if others will tolerate it enough to go to all of our home games. Also, just to be clear, I think a lot of the students on here are only making this point about the crappier games. I don't think it will be an issue against Pittsburgh or Connecticut, for example. I mean after 5-6 pages of posts, isn't the whole issue whether your view is: The new system makes it marginally more difficult to get to games. OR The new system makes it marginally more difficult to get to games. Really both sides are right to some degree. Recent GTown student fans were definitely spoiled by the virtual chauffeur service the school buses provided--that was a pretty sweet deal I gotta say. It legitimately seems weird to a fan who attended games at the Cap Center as a student I bet to hear the current GU kids complaining about taking the Metro to Chinatown. However, you do have to recognize that going from a door-to-door bus service to door-to-Metro-to-door DOES make it marginally more difficult for a student to get to games (and I tell ya where a lot of that extra hour is gonna come from--waiting for the bus BACK to campus in Dupont/Rosslyn...everyone realizes 50 shuttle buses in Chinatown is a cluster, but what about 50 shuttle buses pulling up in intervals in Dupont Circle on a weeknight when 1,500 students all want to get back to campus NOW). The new system is the best thing the Athletic Department could come up with given the circumstances. Some minor sucking-it-up prob. isn't too much to ask. One of my rules to live by as a former student fan is that you've gotta be resourceful. Sometimes that means planning the extra time to get there or thinking outside the box. Just to prove my old-man credentials, for the Pitt game a few years ago that was postponed by the blizzard, it was a Monday night...no school buses, Metrobuses couldn't reach GTown b/c the neighborhood wasn't plowed, the few taxis that did were charging like triple fares--basically the whole city was shut down. Group of us walked through about two feet of snow on unplowed roads/sidewalks to Rosslyn, then took the extremely-short-schedule Metro to Metro Center and walked to the Arena. Took us at least an hour to get there, and students were still getting there at halftime...and good lord the team was awful that year and we got blown out. But it was a pretty memorable story. So suck it up, plan ahead and be resourceful. <oh maaaaaan...did I just kill a slow clap?>
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Post by hoyatables on Nov 8, 2006 22:06:27 GMT -5
Ray, people will come Ray. They'll come to Verizon for reasons they can't even fathom. They'll turn up in Chinatown not knowing for sure why they're doing it. They'll arrive at the doors as innocent as children, longing for 1984. Of course, we won't mind if you look around, you'll say. It's only $50 per person. They'll pass over the money without even thinking about it: for it is money they have and peace they lack. And they'll walk out to the seats; sit inside on a chilly winter day. They'll find they have reserved seats somewhere along one of the baselines, where they sat when they were children and cheered their heroes. And they'll watch the game and it'll be as if they dipped themselves in magic waters. The memories will be so thick they'll have to brush them away from their faces. People will come Ray. The one constant through all the years, Ray, has been Hoyas basketball. America has rolled by like an army of steamrollers. It has been erased like a blackboard, rebuilt and erased again. But Hoya Paranoia has marked the time. This court, this game: it's a part of our past, Ray. It reminds of us of all that once was good and will be again. Oh... people will come Ray. People will most definitely come. Surefire candidate for post of the year.
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Post by PhillyHoya on Nov 8, 2006 23:19:28 GMT -5
Just to prove my old-man credentials, for the Pitt game a few years ago that was postponed by the blizzard, it was a Monday night...no school buses, Metrobuses couldn't reach GTown b/c the neighborhood wasn't plowed, the few taxis that did were charging like triple fares--basically the whole city was shut down. Group of us walked through about two feet of snow on unplowed roads/sidewalks to Rosslyn, then took the extremely-short-schedule Metro to Metro Center and walked to the Arena. Took us at least an hour to get there, and students were still getting there at halftime...and good lord the team was awful that year and we got blown out. But it was a pretty memorable story. So suck it up, plan ahead and be resourceful. <oh maaaaaan...did I just kill a slow clap?> And I almost broke my wrist slipping on the giant patch of ice that was Prospect Street. But it was totally worth it.
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Post by bridget311 on Nov 9, 2006 1:17:06 GMT -5
Alright. I just read through all of this and I actually have something to say: My roommates are not into sports. Between the three of them, they went to 5 games TOTAL last season. (Only one went to the Duke game.) When the TV was set up in Leo's last Thursday, one asked, "Why is the TV here? Is it the Super Bowl?" I'm telling you, for all intents and purposes, they definitely qualify as "casual fans." (Maybe even lower than that.) This year? Two bought season tickets. When they heard about the FREE metro tickets, they said, and I quote, "COOL!" The one who doesn't have season tickets, because of her very busy schedule of saving the world, has already gone about finding tickets to games she does have time for, including cupcake games. I also know some people who didn't go to a single game last year, but still followed along closely on TV or espn.com. They have season tickets this year and are definitely planning on going to the games via the Metro. Next, especially after the Duke game last year, kids started showing up earlier and earlier, taking the Metro in the first place and forgetting about the buses. These kids are thrilled because now the AD has paid for the trips they were going to take anyway. Finally, the buses back to campus never fit all the students, and tons of kids were forced to take the metro and the GUTS bus back to campus. At least this way the AD pays for it and the GUTS buses won't be as crazy packed. Give our peers a chance, guys, they're not nearly as lazy or stupid as you're making them out to be. At the very least, wait to see what happens Saturday and THEN complain.
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