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Post by Admin on Nov 21, 2024 12:36:06 GMT -5
Nov. 23, 12:00 pm EST
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jwp91
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Post by jwp91 on Nov 22, 2024 10:05:11 GMT -5
Well, St. Francis looks like an opportunity get game minutes for this young team. They have three 25+ point losses to major conference teams. They also had an 8 point loss to Mount St. Mary's
Looking at the statistical profile....
They have a poor offense. Their defense isn't much better.
They are prone to turning over the ball. They are quite poor in offensive rebounding and getting to the foul line. They are not likely to steal the ball.
This looks like a chance to have the bottom half of the rotation get some extended minutes to gain more confidence.
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prhoya
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Post by prhoya on Nov 22, 2024 10:13:37 GMT -5
Well, St. Francis looks like an opportunity get game minutes for this young team. They have three 25+ point losses to major conference teams. They also had an 8 point loss to Mount St. Mary's Looking at the statistical profile.... They have a poor offense. Their defense isn't much better. They are prone to turning over the ball. They are quite poor in offensive rebounding and getting to the foul line. They are not likely to steal the ball. This looks like a chance to have the bottom half of the rotation get some extended minutes to gain more confidence. What’s the over/under on Epps getting 35 minutes?  |
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Post by zxhoya on Nov 22, 2024 10:25:49 GMT -5
Well, St. Francis looks like an opportunity get game minutes for this young team. They have three 25+ point losses to major conference teams. They also had an 8 point loss to Mount St. Mary's Looking at the statistical profile.... They have a poor offense. Their defense isn't much better. They are prone to turning over the ball. They are quite poor in offensive rebounding and getting to the foul line. They are not likely to steal the ball. This looks like a chance to have the bottom half of the rotation get some extended minutes to gain more confidence. What’s the over/under on Epps getting 35 minutes? I'm betting on the under, if he plays 35 or more, it was a bad day for the Hoyas. |
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SSHoya
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Post by SSHoya on Nov 22, 2024 10:30:13 GMT -5
I'm going Hoya -17.5!
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conshyhoya
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Post by conshyhoya on Nov 22, 2024 12:20:05 GMT -5
This is the weakest opponent to date so we should dominate. Once we have a decent lead, I would love to see them try and get someone going from the bench offensively along with Drew F. We need someone to be able to provide some value on that end of the bench and so far the only one that showed some promise apparently is out of the rotation with McKenna. I'm guessing it will be Hala and we know Fielder can shoot. It would be nice to have another guard outside the starters to provide something. Mulready could score in HS so maybe this is a good opponent to give him some chances.
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78HOYA78
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Post by 78HOYA78 on Nov 22, 2024 13:10:02 GMT -5
Well said - get some of the bench players some experience and maybe some development and confidence will follow.
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Post by coach98 on Nov 22, 2024 18:12:26 GMT -5
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Post by hoyasaxa2003 on Nov 22, 2024 18:15:40 GMT -5
Well said - get some of the bench players some experience and maybe some development and confidence will follow. One thing we need to keep in mind about the bench is that basically everybody on the team is young. In the old days, when you did not have NIL or no-sit transfers, your starters tended to be upperclassman, or at least sophomores, unless that freshman was really great (like Greg Monroe, for example). On teams like that, giving some guys on the bench more minutes made sense because the upperclassman were already familiar with the coaches, playing full seasons, etc. The bench, contrarily, did not. Here, we have almost nobody with experience playing in college, nevermind with one another. That is partly why I think Cooley is playing the starters plus the next 3-4 off the bench and not cleaning out the bench at the end of the game. Our starters other than Epps and Peavy are extremely young, our bench is even younger, and the guys who aren't seeing many minutes right now are for the most part freshman. So, I can understand why Ed Cooley is doing what he is doing. If our top 8-9 guys do not have time to gel and get better (the Notre Dame effort won't suffice), the team is doomed. As CTHoya said, a lot of people are big on the "clean out the bench in the last 2-3 minutes" approach, but I am also skeptical it matters much other than for morale. Under the right circumstances, I would think a coach can do this. But, I am not sure we are there yet, given that Cooley hasn't really even found his rotation yet, and the guys who are playing are young and have little experience with one another. St. Francis is even worse than Mount Saint Marys, and Mount Saint Marys was very bad. If we are up 40 with 2 minutes left, do you let the walk-ons and vaunted three point sharpshooter Austin Montgomery play? Sure, if Cooley feels like our rotation guys have played well and gotten sufficient minutes. If not, then no. |
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prhoya
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Post by prhoya on Nov 22, 2024 23:15:03 GMT -5
Well said - get some of the bench players some experience and maybe some development and confidence will follow. One thing we need to keep in mind about the bench is that basically everybody on the team is young. In the old days, when you did not have NIL or no-sit transfers, your starters tended to be upperclassman, or at least sophomores, unless that freshman was really great (like Greg Monroe, for example). On teams like that, giving some guys on the bench more minutes made sense because the upperclassman were already familiar with the coaches, playing full seasons, etc. The bench, contrarily, did not. Here, we have almost nobody with experience playing in college, nevermind with one another. That is partly why I think Cooley is playing the starters plus the next 3-4 off the bench and not cleaning out the bench at the end of the game. Our starters other than Epps and Peavy are extremely young, our bench is even younger, and the guys who aren't seeing many minutes right now are for the most part freshman. So, I can understand why Ed Cooley is doing what he is doing. If our top 8-9 guys do not have time to gel and get better (the Notre Dame effort won't suffice), the team is doomed. As CTHoya said, a lot of people are big on the "clean out the bench in the last 2-3 minutes" approach, but I am also skeptical it matters much other than for morale. Under the right circumstances, I would think a coach can do this. But, I am not sure we are there yet, given that Cooley hasn't really even found his rotation yet, and the guys who are playing are young and have little experience with one another. St. Francis is even worse than Mount Saint Marys, and Mount Saint Marys was very bad. If we are up 40 with 2 minutes left, do you let the walk-ons and vaunted three point sharpshooter Austin Montgomery play? Sure, if Cooley feels like our rotation guys have played well and gotten sufficient minutes. If not, then no. Counterpoint: will another 2 or 3 minutes up 30 points against the other team’s bench (because the other coach believes in clearing the bench down 30 points) help? Really? Playing helps morale. Not playing up 30 points is a clear message. |
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Post by bills on Nov 23, 2024 8:16:27 GMT -5
Maybe that clear message is that you earn playing time by what you show in practice.
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SSHoya
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Post by SSHoya on Nov 23, 2024 8:29:50 GMT -5
Dave Sims and Ron Thompson calling the game today on FS2. Ron Thompson? Is this the first time RT has done color on a Hoya TV game?
Hoyas -19.5
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prhoya
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Post by prhoya on Nov 23, 2024 10:00:18 GMT -5
Dave Sims and Ron Thompson calling the game today on FS2. Ron Thompson? Is this the first time RT has done color on a Hoya TV game? Hoyas -19.5 IIRC, he did it several times when JT3 was the coach. |
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Post by HometownHoya on Nov 23, 2024 11:15:45 GMT -5
GAMEDAY!!
Let's put this one away early. Come out hot, moving the ball, and active on defense. You can take breaks in the second half once we have a 30pt lead. Would love to see Fielder get his first 3 of the season and regain confidence. Would also be nice to see Mack leading the scoring and getting his shot to drop. Hopefully we do have time for the walk-ons by the end of the game but I get that Coach wants to get his young team game time together.
Go Hoyas!
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Post by bearsandbulls on Nov 23, 2024 11:19:03 GMT -5
One thing we need to keep in mind about the bench is that basically everybody on the team is young. In the old days, when you did not have NIL or no-sit transfers, your starters tended to be upperclassman, or at least sophomores, unless that freshman was really great (like Greg Monroe, for example). On teams like that, giving some guys on the bench more minutes made sense because the upperclassman were already familiar with the coaches, playing full seasons, etc. The bench, contrarily, did not. Here, we have almost nobody with experience playing in college, nevermind with one another. That is partly why I think Cooley is playing the starters plus the next 3-4 off the bench and not cleaning out the bench at the end of the game. Our starters other than Epps and Peavy are extremely young, our bench is even younger, and the guys who aren't seeing many minutes right now are for the most part freshman. So, I can understand why Ed Cooley is doing what he is doing. If our top 8-9 guys do not have time to gel and get better (the Notre Dame effort won't suffice), the team is doomed. As CTHoya said, a lot of people are big on the "clean out the bench in the last 2-3 minutes" approach, but I am also skeptical it matters much other than for morale. Under the right circumstances, I would think a coach can do this. But, I am not sure we are there yet, given that Cooley hasn't really even found his rotation yet, and the guys who are playing are young and have little experience with one another. St. Francis is even worse than Mount Saint Marys, and Mount Saint Marys was very bad. If we are up 40 with 2 minutes left, do you let the walk-ons and vaunted three point sharpshooter Austin Montgomery play? Sure, if Cooley feels like our rotation guys have played well and gotten sufficient minutes. If not, then no. Counterpoint: will another 2 or 3 minutes up 30 points against the other team’s bench (because the other coach believes in clearing the bench down 30 points) help? Really? Playing helps morale. Not playing up 30 points is a clear message. One of the better posts of late that I have read on here. Thank you |
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SSHoya
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Post by SSHoya on Nov 23, 2024 11:57:55 GMT -5
No one here at Cap One.
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Post by DanMcQ on Nov 23, 2024 12:02:59 GMT -5
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daveg023
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Post by daveg023 on Nov 23, 2024 12:04:32 GMT -5
This FS2 feed feels worse quality than normal today.
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Post by HometownHoya on Nov 23, 2024 12:05:07 GMT -5
Producer needs to do some research, that wasn't Ed Cooley  |
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daveg023
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Post by daveg023 on Nov 23, 2024 12:07:03 GMT -5
Producer needs to do some research, that wasn't Ed Cooley They stayed on that way too long too. |
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